official chart H100: We Don't Talk About Bruno 3x #1, Do We Have a Problem? #2, Ghost #9

[simmnfierzig]

On 2/14/2022 at 3:24 PM, Narima said:

what are encanto's total units? 

I dont have numbers for its first 5 weeks, but it should be in the 680k - 700k range somewhere

[Narima]

6 hours ago, simmnfierzig said:

I dont have numbers for its first 5 weeks, but it should be in the 680k - 700k range somewhere

1m soon 

[brianc33710]

On 2/14/2022 at 4:45 PM, Sinister said:

Bieber’s era been going on since 2020

charting top 10s in 3 calendar years is amazing

thats 4 top 10s this era.

 

like what was the last era that had this many top 10s (not counting Drake and the Hip-Hop chart bombs)

I definitely feel you on how disastrously album bombs create a ton of "Top 5/10 songs" that never see light of day at radio. I really feel like tracks should receive some minimum amount of airplay to officially chart on the Hot 100. But most on here consider my proposal as basically full of shlt. Yeah, Drakes Certified Loverboy produced 5 Top 5 & 9 Top 10 debuts its 1st week of release. Just how many of these tracks receive actual single support? 3 to maybe 4.

 

In contrast Teenage Dream produced 5 #1s & a #3 to start and another #1 & a #2 with its exclusive rerelase, so an incredible 8 Top 3s. But, Drake Certified Loverboy gets credit for 9 "Top 10s," 1 more than Teenage Dream legitimately achieved. Something definitely needs to be done to address these skewed records, but what other than a minimum airplay requirement?

 

 

[Witnessed ET]

9 hours ago, brianc33710 said:

I definitely feel you on how disastrously album bombs create a ton of "Top 5/10 songs" that never see light of day at radio. I really feel like tracks should receive some minimum amount of airplay to officially chart on the Hot 100. But most on here consider my proposal as basically full of shlt. Yeah, Drakes Certified Loverboy produced 5 Top 5 & 9 Top 10 debuts its 1st week of release. Just how many of these tracks receive actual single support? 3 to maybe 4.

 

In contrast Teenage Dream produced 5 #1s & a #3 to start and another #1 & a #2 with its exclusive rerelase, so an incredible 8 Top 3s. But, Drake Certified Loverboy gets credit for 9 "Top 10s," 1 more than Teenage Dream legitimately achieved. Something definitely needs to be done to address these skewed records, but what other than a minimum airplay requirement?

 

 

I think, along with radio airplay requirement, there has to be a popularity index which assesses the current general public’s familiarity with songs to really label them as “popular”. I bet most of the people on the street or a non-fan could name probably 1 or 2 songs from certified lover boy, if not less. Him getting credit for “9 top 10s from one album” like that is kinda idiotic. 

[Brando]

On 2/15/2022 at 7:54 PM, LastKiss said:

I'm surprised that abcdefu was not able to reach top 5 in the US

i was sure it was gonna be at leat a top 3 hit if nor #1

I think Xmas blunted its momentum. It had its biggest moment in the weeks leading up to Xmas and was obviously held off by those songs. It wasn't able to rebuild that momentum since then and now the shock factor is over. 

[Dingdong123]

33 minutes ago, Brando said:

I think Xmas blunted its momentum. It had its biggest moment in the weeks leading up to Xmas and was obviously held off by those songs. It wasn't able to rebuild that momentum since then and now the shock factor is over. 

Yeah I think moving forward, labels may rethink their strategy in releasing records prior Christmas like November or December. On one hand sales may be lucrative for few true superstars during this period, however records can now easily get lost in the shuffle especially post thanksgiving with the massive holiday surges.

[Brando]

2 minutes ago, Dingdong123 said:

Yeah I think moving forward, labels may rethink their strategy in releasing records prior Christmas like November or December. On one hand sales may be lucrative for few true superstars during this period, however records can now easily get lost in the shuffle especially post thanksgiving with the massive holiday surges.

Yep. I thought Adele would suffer from it, but she managed to hold on

[politeone]

12 hours ago, brianc33710 said:

I definitely feel you on how disastrously album bombs create a ton of "Top 5/10 songs" that never see light of day at radio. I really feel like tracks should receive some minimum amount of airplay to officially chart on the Hot 100. But most on here consider my proposal as basically full of shlt. Yeah, Drakes Certified Loverboy produced 5 Top 5 & 9 Top 10 debuts its 1st week of release. Just how many of these tracks receive actual single support? 3 to maybe 4.

 

In contrast Teenage Dream produced 5 #1s & a #3 to start and another #1 & a #2 with its exclusive rerelase, so an incredible 8 Top 3s. But, Drake Certified Loverboy gets credit for 9 "Top 10s," 1 more than Teenage Dream legitimately achieved. Something definitely needs to be done to address these skewed records, but what other than a minimum airplay requirement?

 

 

While I agree about tracks that randomly hit top 10 and there needing to be better controls, radio is not it. We all know how radio can be Payola'd and create impressions that songs are being more consumed that they are actually are, it's too out of the music listening community's control to be used as a minimum requirement 

 

[Green]

Points for the top 2:

 

1. We Don't Talk About Bruno  274

2. Do We Have A Problem?  273

 

[MardinBeksloy]

12 hours ago, Green said:

Points for the top 2:

 

1. We Don't Talk About Bruno  274

2. Do We Have A Problem?  273

 

 

[PoisonPill]

On 2/16/2022 at 3:54 AM, brianc33710 said:

I definitely feel you on how disastrously album bombs create a ton of "Top 5/10 songs" that never see light of day at radio. I really feel like tracks should receive some minimum amount of airplay to officially chart on the Hot 100. But most on here consider my proposal as basically full of shlt. Yeah, Drakes Certified Loverboy produced 5 Top 5 & 9 Top 10 debuts its 1st week of release. Just how many of these tracks receive actual single support? 3 to maybe 4.

 

In contrast Teenage Dream produced 5 #1s & a #3 to start and another #1 & a #2 with its exclusive rerelase, so an incredible 8 Top 3s. But, Drake Certified Loverboy gets credit for 9 "Top 10s," 1 more than Teenage Dream legitimately achieved. Something definitely needs to be done to address these skewed records, but what other than a minimum airplay requirement?

 

 

No. That would give us the reverse of the awful 90s situation, where massive #1 radio smashes that didn't have a physical single release weren't even allowed to chart on the Hot 100 (most famously Don't Speak which is 7th biggest radio song of all-time but never charted on the Hot 100 )

 

Edited February 17, 2022 by PoisonPill

[Dingdong123]

Bots assembling again for mass buying that Stay Alive

 

Pls tell me there’s no way it’ll debut at number and spend 10 weeks atop again

[Capruni]

19 hours ago, Green said:

Points for the top 2:

 

1. We Don't Talk About Bruno  274

2. Do We Have A Problem?  273

 

Omg, I can’t believe! ?

[G.U.Y_Del_Rey]

Organic smash hit We Don't Talk About Bruno won, we love to see it 

 

[Green]

3 hours ago, Dingdong123 said:

Bots assembling again for mass buying that Stay Alive

 

Pls tell me there’s no way it’ll debut at number and spend 10 weeks atop again

 

Eww. Not again 

 

If the Barbz did 48k then the Bots are probably doing over 100k

 

A song that no one knows topping the Hot 100 again...

[Ger]

Poor Nicki.

[TrieLz]

11 hours ago, Dingdong123 said:

Bots assembling again for mass buying that Stay Alive

 

Pls tell me there’s no way it’ll debut at number and spend 10 weeks atop again

Their goal are just to enters top 40/top 50 for solo Jungkook, the song is under Jungkook’s name, not BTS.

also there’s only 1 version of the song (no remix, no instrumental) and not available on BTS Store

plus No official Music Video (only some random video promo for 7Fates Chakho)

 

if Stay Alive debut in the Top 40 will be a HUGE accomplishment for Jeon Jungkook 

[MardinBeksloy]

BTS fans gonna prove rule change won't affect them  

[Brando]

On 2/17/2022 at 5:12 AM, Green said:

Points for the top 2:

 

1. We Don't Talk About Bruno  274

2. Do We Have A Problem?  273

 

I'd be fuming too tbh if i discovered these totals 

[G.U.Y.]

On 2/16/2022 at 5:54 AM, brianc33710 said:

I definitely feel you on how disastrously album bombs create a ton of "Top 5/10 songs" that never see light of day at radio. I really feel like tracks should receive some minimum amount of airplay to officially chart on the Hot 100. But most on here consider my proposal as basically full of shlt. Yeah, Drakes Certified Loverboy produced 5 Top 5 & 9 Top 10 debuts its 1st week of release. Just how many of these tracks receive actual single support? 3 to maybe 4.

 

In contrast Teenage Dream produced 5 #1s & a #3 to start and another #1 & a #2 with its exclusive rerelase, so an incredible 8 Top 3s. But, Drake Certified Loverboy gets credit for 9 "Top 10s," 1 more than Teenage Dream legitimately achieved. Something definitely needs to be done to address these skewed records, but what other than a minimum airplay requirement?

 

 

The Teenage Dream campaign was full of payola. Do you remember when TOTGA broke the record of most weekly spins on Top 40 radio stations? Seriously, with that mediocre song?

[Narima]

On 2/17/2022 at 3:12 AM, Green said:

Points for the top 2:

 

1. We Don't Talk About Bruno  274

2. Do We Have A Problem?  273

 

very happy with the results 

 

On 2/17/2022 at 7:37 PM, Dingdong123 said:

Bots assembling again for mass buying that Stay Alive

 

Pls tell me there’s no way it’ll debut at number and spend 10 weeks atop again

the song is now out of itunes top 100 so shameless 

[umich]

1 hour ago, G.U.Y. said:

The Teenage Dream campaign was full of payola. Do you remember when TOTGA broke the record of most weekly spins on Top 40 radio stations? Seriously, with that mediocre song?

Care to explain how the TD campaign was 'full of payola' when all of her singles hit #1 (sans TOTGA, which still peaked at a respectable #2) on the Digital Songs chart? Not like they were forcing the songs at radio with flop sales. The demand for her songs was clearly there.

 

And it isn't no surprise that TOTGA broke the spins record when she was dominating radio for nearly 15 months straight at that point.

[Ger]

1 hour ago, G.U.Y. said:

The Teenage Dream campaign was full of payola. Do you remember when TOTGA broke the record of most weekly spins on Top 40 radio stations? Seriously, with that mediocre song?

The nerve.

[Hot Volcano]

47 minutes ago, umich said:

Care to explain how the TD campaign was 'full of payola' when all of her singles hit #1 (sans TOTGA, which still peaked at a respectable #2) on the Digital Songs chart? Not like they were forcing the songs at radio with flop sales. The demand for her songs was clearly there.

 

And it isn't no surprise that TOTGA broke the spins record when she was dominating radio for nearly 15 months straight at that point.

Maybe by "payola" he means the discounts since they were a big deal back then. I still remember the original version, the acoustic version and the B.o.B. remix all being discounted in the same week    And to compare, some artists like Gaga never released an official remix of one of their singles or discounted any of their singles at that point, so that's why Katy doing it with the same single raised some eyebrows. And she has done the same with the single prior to TOTGA - LFN (remix + discount).

 

So the "payola" was only during the week it peaked, but overall it was a very big hit. Probably one of the biggest 6th singles ever. 

 

 

Edited February 18, 2022 by Hot Volcano

[Sinister]

11 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said:

Maybe by "payola" he means the discounts since they were a big deal back then. I still remember the original version, the acoustic version and the B.o.B. remix all being discounted in the same week    And to compare, some artists like Gaga never released an official remix of one of their singles or discounted any of their singles at that point, so that's why Katy doing it with the same single raised some eyebrows. And she has done the same with the single prior to TOTGA - LFN (remix + discount).

 

So the "payola" was only during the week it peaked, but overall it was a very big hit. Probably one of the biggest 6th singles ever. 

 

 

Maybe because Gaga wasn’t close to snatching multiple #1s at that point