rihannabiggestfan Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 I believe this is a complete list for songs pre-digital era (2005). The now-discontinued chart (2017) is called Hot Singles Sales. Top 5 Physical Sales Hits that Missed Hot 100: Madonna the only woman on here twice @madonnas - one of the songs being one of my favorite Madonna songs to date, Hollywood ... robbed on the Hot 100! Other familiar faces include album artists Norah Jones and Enya (they're truly album artists - despite selling tens of millions of albums in the US, they have a combined total of 3 top 75 hits in the US). And Enya's case is really impressive considering she released it 13 years prior in 1992 Now I need your help. The Physical Single Sales charted lasted til 2017, so surely there are more songs that hit the Top 5 on it yet missed the Hot 100. Physical Single Sales were already quite dead from 2002-2005, but they truly got DEAD once digital sales took out - thus, scammers like Manika ( @Blackthorn) have been known to buy their way on that chart There is also a Digital Song Sales chart, and clearly digital sales are dying too. I believe every song that has gone #1 on that has hit the Hot 100. Please list songs that went top 5 there that missed the Hot 100: -Britney Spears - Mood Ring (#2 on Digital Songs Sales chart, #23 on Bubbling Under) -Phoebe Bridgers - That Funny Feeling (#4 on Digital Songs Sales chart, N/A on Bubbling Under) @naval23 @St. Charles
rihannabiggestfan Posted October 19, 2021 Author Posted October 19, 2021 Also, surely the most successful song to miss the Hot 100, Bubbling Under, and Sales chart is @Yog it served longevity over peak!
Yog Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, rihannabiggestfan said: Also, surely the most successful song to miss the Hot 100, Bubbling Under, and Sales chart is @Yog it served longevity over peak! Lets be honest, in this streaming era.. charts peaks are pretty useless when an #1 song takes months to go gold., compared to an top 40 that's goes multi platinum
BrokenMachine Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 Madonna being the definition of blacklisted during her American Life days
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 The biggest selling song here is “What The World Needs Is Love” which sold 140K units in total. That’s how dead physical singles were outside of American Idol winners songs/Charity singles. As a matter of fact, “Nothing Fails” sold 9.8K units the week in which it was #1 on the sales chart, the lowest ever total for a sales #1 at the time. The Hot 100 #1 that week was “Hey Ya” with 159M AI and 0 physical sales. It was #1 on the Hot Digital Tracks chart, however, selling 24K downloads that week. Downloads were now selling more than CD singles, on average, and it still took Billboard over a year to include it in the Hot 100 formula.
tiagol88 Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: The Hot 100 #1 that week was “Hey Ya” with 159M AI and 0 physical sales. It was #1 on the Hot Digital Tracks chart, however, selling 24K downloads that week. Downloads were now selling more than CD singles, on average, and it still took Billboard over a year to include it in the Hot 100 formula. Billboard have always been a mess. They always take so long to adapt to everything
Alongoria13 Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 Miles Away reached no.1 in Hot Singles Sales back in 2008
rihannabiggestfan Posted October 19, 2021 Author Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Alongoria13 said: Miles Away reached no.1 in Hot Singles Sales back in 2008 Omg queen. The "Nothing Fails" of the era Jump too! 17 minutes ago, tiagol88 said: Billboard have always been a mess. They always take so long to adapt to everything And right Gwen's What You Waiting For surely would have peaked higher if digital sales counted back in 2004 Edited October 19, 2021 by rihannabiggestfan
naval23 Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 31 minutes ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: The Hot 100 #1 that week was “Hey Ya” with 159M AI and 0 physical sales. It was #1 on the Hot Digital Tracks chart, however, selling 24K downloads that week. Downloads were now selling more than CD singles, on average, and it still took Billboard over a year to include it in the Hot 100 formula. A mess! But wow at Hey Ya being an airplay and digital smash - the OG IGAF
rihannabiggestfan Posted October 19, 2021 Author Posted October 19, 2021 Madonna - Get Together (#2) Madonna - Turn Up the Radio (#3) Madonna - Living for Love (#3) Madonna - Ghosttown (#3)
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted October 19, 2021 Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, tiagol88 said: Billboard have always been a mess. They always take so long to adapt to everything 19 minutes ago, naval23 said: A mess! But wow at Hey Ya being an airplay and digital smash - the OG IGAF The week that “Toxic” peaked at #9 on the Hot 100, it was #2 on the ‘Hot Digital Tracks’ chart, behind Evanescence’s “My Immortal” selling 16K downloads. If Digital sales were included in the formula then, “Toxic” would’ve been a top three hit, undoubtedly, especially as it were already a top ten airplay hit. “MI” would’ve peaked higher too. As a matter of fact, Hoobastank’s “The Reason” would’ve also been a Hot 100 #1, briefly interrupting Usher’s reign. The week that it peaked at #2 on the Hot 100, behind “Burn”, it was #1 on the Digital charts having sold 31K units. It was the biggest one-week download total ever at that point. Edited October 19, 2021 by GoodGuyGoneGhetto
ithinkheknowsoutsold Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 Nothing Fails is easily one of Madonna's best songs, it always made me sad to see it didn't chart even on the Bubbling Under chart.
Shendelzare Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 11 hours ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: The week that “Toxic” peaked at #9 on the Hot 100, it was #2 on the ‘Hot Digital Tracks’ chart, behind Evanescence’s “My Immortal” selling 16K downloads. If Digital sales were included in the formula then, “Toxic” would’ve been a top three hit, undoubtedly, especially as it were already a top ten airplay hit. “MI” would’ve peaked higher too. As a matter of fact, Hoobastank’s “The Reason” would’ve also been a Hot 100 #1, briefly interrupting Usher’s reign. The week that it peaked at #2 on the Hot 100, behind “Burn”, it was #1 on the Digital charts having sold 31K units. It was the biggest one-week download total ever at that point. So BB has ****ed up Britney's chart records even before blackout
TrieLz Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 12 hours ago, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: The week that “Toxic” peaked at #9 on the Hot 100, it was #2 on the ‘Hot Digital Tracks’ chart, behind Evanescence’s “My Immortal” selling 16K downloads. If Digital sales were included in the formula then, “Toxic” would’ve been a top three hit, undoubtedly, especially as it were already a top ten airplay hit. “MI” would’ve peaked higher too. As a matter of fact, Hoobastank’s “The Reason” would’ve also been a Hot 100 #1, briefly interrupting Usher’s reign. The week that it peaked at #2 on the Hot 100, behind “Burn”, it was #1 on the Digital charts having sold 31K units. It was the biggest one-week download total ever at that point. Both The Reason & Toxic is huge back then 2004 classic Sometimes I hate Billboard if I remember this
Luckitty Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 I get why people buy physical albums but why would anyone buy a physical single especially back then when you had to go there and buy it since online shopping wasn't a thing
DanceAgain Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 19 hours ago, rihannabiggestfan said: I believe this is a complete list for songs pre-digital era (2005). The now-discontinued chart (2017) is called Hot Singles Sales. Top 5 Physical Sales Hits that Missed Hot 100: Madonna the only woman on here twice @madonnas - one of the songs being one of my favorite Madonna songs to date, Hollywood ... robbed on the Hot 100! Other familiar faces include album artists Norah Jones and Enya (they're truly album artists - despite selling tens of millions of albums in the US, they have a combined total of 3 top 75 hits in the US). And Enya's case is really impressive considering she released it 13 years prior in 1992 Now I need your help. The Physical Single Sales charted lasted til 2017, so surely there are more songs that hit the Top 5 on it yet missed the Hot 100. Physical Single Sales were already quite dead from 2002-2005, but they truly got DEAD once digital sales took out - thus, scammers like Manika ( @Blackthorn) have been known to buy their way on that chart There is also a Digital Song Sales chart, and clearly digital sales are dying too. I believe every song that has gone #1 on that has hit the Hot 100. Please list songs that went top 5 there that missed the Hot 100: -Britney Spears - Mood Ring (#2 on Digital Songs Sales chart, #23 on Bubbling Under) -Phoebe Bridgers - That Funny Feeling (#4 on Digital Songs Sales chart, N/A on Bubbling Under) @naval23 @St. Charles Not her That B.Y.O is a bop though lol
mintpasty Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Shendelzare said: So BB has ****ed up Britney's chart records even before blackout BB has ****ed up most of the chart records for her pre-Blackout discography, they literally are so useless their formulas never properly take into account what is ACTUALLY popular
Rev8 Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 22 hours ago, rihannabiggestfan said: -Britney Spears - Mood Ring (#2 on Digital Songs Sales chart, #23 on Bubbling Under) was saying! Electric Chair!!!
rihannabiggestfan Posted October 20, 2021 Author Posted October 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rev8 said: was saying! Electric Chair!!! and apparently it was a mere few hundred sales away from beating Savage for the #1 spot a close one
rihannabiggestfan Posted October 23, 2021 Author Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) wait OKAY ROBYN Robyn - With Every Heartbeat (#4 on Hot Singles Sales, N/A on Bubbling Under) Robyn - Trust Me (#4 on Hot Singles Sales, N/A on Bubbling Under) (Call Your Girlfriend is a close #6!) Edited October 23, 2021 by rihannabiggestfan
Nano Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 It pisses me off that Billboard wiped the Hot Single Sales archives from their site. That's a whole bunch of music history gone (except for collectors of old Billboard magazines), and for what?
Shaner69 Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) I think Madonna's Hung Up was #1 on digital sales for awhile but all the sales were not included in the Hot 100 points. It would have performed way bigger on the Hot 100 and it could have truly reflected the songs popularity. However Billboard sucks with randomly changing rules and then taking forever to change other rules that matter. Edited October 24, 2021 by Shaner69
PrudenceHCharmed Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/20/2021 at 7:36 PM, Luckitty said: I get why people buy physical albums but why would anyone buy a physical single especially back then when you had to go there and buy it since online shopping wasn't a thing They really playing albums with only two songs?
CaptainMusic Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) On 10/19/2021 at 10:13 PM, GoodGuyGoneGhetto said: The biggest selling song here is “What The World Needs Is Love” which sold 140K units in total. That’s how dead physical singles were outside of American Idol winners songs/Charity singles. As a matter of fact, “Nothing Fails” sold 9.8K units the week in which it was #1 on the sales chart, the lowest ever total for a sales #1 at the time. The Hot 100 #1 that week was “Hey Ya” with 159M AI and 0 physical sales. It was #1 on the Hot Digital Tracks chart, however, selling 24K downloads that week. Downloads were now selling more than CD singles, on average, and it still took Billboard over a year to include it in the Hot 100 formula. On 10/19/2021 at 10:23 PM, tiagol88 said: Billboard have always been a mess. They always take so long to adapt to everything At least Billboard added digital sales in 2005, France was even worse, they didn’t include them in their official chart until 2011 Edited October 24, 2021 by CaptainMusic
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