charts discussion Butter is No.1 but Out from top of ALL music charts

[bae]

Literally who cares. The moment Nicki got a #1 was the moment BB died

[Isaiah]

3 hours ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

Smashing those free streams yet flopping on sales. Guess that is why she has to settle for number two. 

Imagine saying this with your whole chest when BoTS arent even top 30 on streaming, the format people irl ACTUALLY use, while Olivia is top 5 on sales  

[Shaner69]

1 hour ago, brianc33710 said:

Why would you want to drag Trump into this? I can assure you BB isn't a fan of him. 

I said acting like.  I didn't say they were a fan of him

[Lovett]

8 hours ago, spree said:

if its fraud, then every remix is fraudulent.  What's the point of a remix if it isn't for the charts?  Every collaboration is a fraud, every itunes discount is fraudulent, bundles are frauds, jockstraps are frauds, radio deals are frauds, Spotify playlists are frauds, etc.  You get the picture. 

Except they aren't funded by a small amount of stans from other countries, sending thousands of dollars into the US to manipulate the chart.  Your comparison is completely irrelevant to the blatant fraud that people are talking about in this thread. People aren't complaining about the crappy remixes BTS keeps pumping out, people are complaining that the chart is being manipulated to make it look like "Butter" is the biggest song in the country, when in reality it's not even top 20.

[hope ur ok]

11 hours ago, Caesar said:

I mean what can billboard do really? weight pure sales less?

 

Not count website sales, which would be the right thing to do. Website sales controlled by labels and can more easily be manipulated than sales from places like Amazon or iTunes

[thetea]

14 hours ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

When Taylor did it it's smart, when a Korean male band do it it's fraud. 

 

The Xenophobia jumped out. 

 

Web sales count for the charts, get over it. 

girl

 

Taylor got dragged A LOT for it as she should've but the only reason she never got dragged this much is because she never blocked the song that should've been #1 for 6 weeks, Willow, Cardigan, ME!, YNTCD all came and went quickly, Butter has been #1 for 6 weeks without actually being the most popular song in the U.S. Olivia is also asian so all these xenophobia allegations are garbage when the person (Olivia) that everyone is defending is asian. 

 

[loveisdead9582]

The BoTS stans in here are delusional. The only reason that it is number one because of website buying. No one on any actually used method of listening gives a flying **** about this song or BTS aside from their absolutely insane stans. 

[Xtianlofbritney]

15 hours ago, Cloudy said:

This is just getting out of hand, but Billboard is allowing it so it is what it is. They are ruining themselves the credibility they once had.

 

Billboard lost its credibility like 13 years ago

Edited July 7, 2021 by Xtianlofbritney

[Virtual_Insanity]

7 hours ago, Blade said:

It's not obsession. It's just kinda sad to see the charts ruined by a song that no one outside of their fanbase knows. Like have you ever heard anyone mention Butter that wasn't super in-tune to BTS? I'm not even a big Olivia fan but it's been stealing all these weeks from good 4 u when everyone is STILL talking about g4u weeks after release. The album keeps going back to #1 on the BB200 thanks to Olivia's unprecedented streams yet some website sales are giving them the #1. It's times like these where I'm glad the GP does not look at charts.

LOL. No one is talking about Good 4 U in the real world. And they never have been. Olivia's unprecedented streams coming from random playlist clicks and obsessed stans binge streaming lol. 

[frenchyisback]

6 hours ago, Isaiah said:

I’m sure Olivia is fine considering the people in the country you seem to care so much about actually know her song  those panned frauds can’t relate considering their song is OUT on every platform Americans actually listen to music through  

See her on tour then. Let’s see how many people actually care about her music after it’s been force-fed by radio payola & streaming playlist if… 

 

Same lies we’re told about Dynamite and WAP. 
Dynamite became a top5 radio hit while WAP flopped on radio.

Edited July 7, 2021 by frenchyisback

[Virtual_Insanity]

4 hours ago, hope ur ok said:

Not count website sales, which would be the right thing to do. Website sales controlled by labels and can more easily be manipulated than sales from places like Amazon or iTunes

What difference will that make lol. The BTS stans will just switch to purchasing from Amazon or itunes. 

[frenchyisback]

4 hours ago, thetea said:

girlOlivia is also asian so all these xenophobia allegations are garbage when the person (Olivia) that everyone is defending is asian. 

 

Olivia is AMERICAN.

BTS are Korean (Asians).

Xenophobia is based on citizenship not ethnicity.

 

Thus it is still a valid critic of BTS haters. They clearly have no respect for success in Asia & think the world starts and ends in Europe.

Edited July 7, 2021 by frenchyisback

[Quaithe]

inb4 this normalizes crowdfunding for charts.

[Starchild]

28 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

LOL. No one is talking about Good 4 U in the real world. And they never have been. Olivia's unprecedented streams coming from random playlist clicks and obsessed stans binge streaming lol. 

This delusional post  i guess since your fave became an irrelevant flop, you had to hide behind bts. 

 

And you know nothing about charts if you think you can just loop a song all you want, if not bot fans wouldve done it long ago 

[QueenofCopyPaste]

47 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

LOL. No one is talking about Good 4 U in the real world. And they never have been. Olivia's unprecedented streams coming from random playlist clicks and obsessed stans binge streaming lol. 

What a delusional post

 

Thank you for the chuckle. 

Edited July 7, 2021 by QueenofCopyPaste

[QueenofCopyPaste]

48 minutes ago, frenchyisback said:

See her on tour then. Let’s see how many people actually care about her music after it’s been force-fed by radio payola & streaming playlist if… 

 

Same lies we’re told about Dynamite and WAP. 
Dynamite became a top5 radio hit while WAP flopped on radio.

How bout streaming?

 

[Virtual_Insanity]

It is so interesting to me that when Dua was on TTH for ages there was loads of talk about her "payola". Now suddenly streaming is KING. The constant switching.

 

OT - Butter ( 1 1 1 1 1 1) 

[QueenofCopyPaste]

9 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said:

It is so interesting to me that when Dua was on TTH for ages there was loads of talk about her "payola". Now suddenly streaming is KING. The constant switching.

 

OT - Butter ( 1 1 1 1 1 1) 

Streaming has always been the biggest percentage of the Hot 100 formula. 

 

The true measure dominant  popularity of the current times. 

[Ferret]

I really don’t know what’s worse: mass buying or mass crying. Like WE GET IT. They’re frauds. Time to get over it

[kellysclarkson]

20 hours ago, QueenofCopyPaste said:

#1 in website sales with 153k copies

the one easiest to VPN

[frenchyisback]

10 minutes ago, QueenofCopyPaste said:

How bout streaming?

 

My favs don’t do elevator music to listen to while shopping 

[QueenofCopyPaste]

9 minutes ago, frenchyisback said:

My favs don’t do elevator music to listen to while shopping 

Says a lot then. 

[QueenofCopyPaste]

10 minutes ago, kellysclarkson said:

the one easiest to VPN

And PayPal transaction funding from other countries. 

[Windy Day]

Billboard better keep the same energy when other kpop companies find out about website sales and put digital singles in it next (it only has digital albums for now).

But weirdly enough, the last time a korean group topped the billboard 200 charts, they immediately changed their rules. I smell some columbia / hybe corruption.

 

[Desire]

Not this getting 7 pages  and yikes at that mod comment when this thread is 100% valid. 

 

BoTs frauds but everyone knows that and it's the only reason some people outside of that fanbase even knows butter