Mattyboy Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I understand they have credibility. But people are acting like it’s the end of the world for Dua.. And this was literally her only chance to go #1..? As a Kesha stan, I never had to worry about #1’s as she got them very early in her career and even 5 years in with Timber. But even Kesha has had a #2 (Die Young).. And to me it wouldn’t have made a difference if it had topped it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaKilos Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 What's wrong with wanting female artists to have #1 songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nip Tuck Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, FloridaKilos said: What's wrong with wanting female artists to have #1 songs There’s a difference between wanting a #1 and dragging an artist for not having one or acting like it’s the be all end all for an artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Ranger Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Like I’ve always preached #1s are for strictly for bragging rights and that’s that. The only way I deem a #1 song worthy of that title would be if it actually didn’t fall like a rock and served longevity or spent multiple weeks at #1 From what we’ve learnt from 2020’s quick “lil hits” #1s have lost their achievement as being this “huge deal” there’s so many songs out there that didn’t peak at #1 or even go top #5 that are bigger than ALOT of quick #1s Bad Romance for example. Dont Start Now for example Levitating for example Sorry Not Sorry for example 1,2 step for example. Stay With Me for example You Belong With Me for example. If I Ain’t Got You for example Since You’ve Been Gone for example Y.M.C.A for example Wake Me Up for example Thinking Out Loud for example. We Don’t Talk Anymore for example. We Can’t Stop for example. the list goes on but yall get the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Ranger Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Nip Tuck said: There’s a difference between wanting a #1 and dragging an artist for not having one or acting like it’s the be all end all for an artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyboy Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, FloridaKilos said: What's wrong with wanting female artists to have #1 songs I think you know what I meant. Let’s not play dumb. 10 minutes ago, Nip Tuck said: There’s a difference between wanting a #1 and dragging an artist for not having one or acting like it’s the be all end all for an artist. Exactly. 10 minutes ago, Pink Ranger said: Like I’ve always preached #1s are for strictly for bragging rights and that’s that. The only way I deem a #1 song worthy of that title would be if it actually didn’t fall like a rock and served longevity or spent multiple weeks at #1 From what we’ve learnt from 2020’s quick “lil hits” #1s have lost their achievement as being this “huge deal” there’s so many songs out there that didn’t peak at #1 or even go top #5 that are bigger than ALOT of quick #1s Bad Romance for example. Dont Start Now for example Levitating for example Sorry Not Sorry for example 1,2 step for example. Stay With Me for example You Belong With Me for example. If I Ain’t Got You for example Since You’ve Been Gone for example Y.M.C.A for example Wake Me Up for example Thinking Out Loud for example. We Don’t Talk Anymore for example. We Can’t Stop for example. the list goes on but yall get the point. I think the real accomplishment may be if a #1 debut can stay atop a second week or longevity in the top 5/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROJAN Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Anything that isn’t #1 is a flop in the eyes of ATRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Ranger Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Just now, Mattyboy said: I think you know what I meant. Let’s not play dumb. Exactly. I think the real accomplishment may be if a #1 debut can stay atop a second week or longevity in the top 5/10. To me that’s a worthy #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamj.dion Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 It’s a pop music forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selena_lavigne Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pink Ranger said: Like I’ve always preached #1s are for strictly for bragging rights and that’s that. The only way I deem a #1 song worthy of that title would be if it actually didn’t fall like a rock and served longevity or spent multiple weeks at #1 From what we’ve learnt from 2020’s quick “lil hits” #1s have lost their achievement as being this “huge deal” there’s so many songs out there that didn’t peak at #1 or even go top #5 that are bigger than ALOT of quick #1s Bad Romance for example. Dont Start Now for example Levitating for example Sorry Not Sorry for example 1,2 step for example. Stay With Me for example You Belong With Me for example. If I Ain’t Got You for example Since You’ve Been Gone for example Y.M.C.A for example Wake Me Up for example Thinking Out Loud for example. We Don’t Talk Anymore for example. We Can’t Stop for example. the list goes on but yall get the point. the way 80% of the artists you mentioned (and maybe some i didn't highlight cuz i'm not 100% sure) have number ones. Edited May 20, 2021 by selena_lavigne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HASHTAGPOW Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Because we're lonely and unemployed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyboy Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, selena_lavigne said: the way 80% of the artists you mentioned (and maybe some i didn't highlight cuz i'm not 100% sure) have number ones. also SNS doesn't belong on this list. it definitely did not feel like a #1 or close to it. it was a nice top 10 hit though. How does We Can’t Talk Anymore feel like a #1? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CristianGarcia Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Because if Dua never gets a #1 we’ll remember the mess that happened this week when she almost did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Ranger Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 29 minutes ago, selena_lavigne said: the way 80% of the artists you mentioned (and maybe some i didn't highlight cuz i'm not 100% sure) have number ones. also SNS doesn't belong on this list. it definitely did not feel like a #1 or close to it. it was a nice top 10 hit though. SNS is 6x Platinum Eligible in the US… some #1s can’t even scan half that “off key in my chorus” idk. didn’t say any of these songs “felt like #1” so cute you putting those words in my mouth I guess. SNS may have not felt like a #1 but it would have been worthy of being a #1 given it’s 6x Platinum Eligibility. again some #1s can’t relate I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Ranger Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mattyboy said: How does We Can’t Talk Anymore feel like a #1? ? WDTA feeling like a #1 but DSN which stomps everything Selena has released solo all around the world doesn’t apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drivers license Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 50 minutes ago, Adamj.dion said: It’s a pop music forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selena_lavigne Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Pink Ranger said: WDTA feeling like a #1 but DSN which stomps everything Selena has released solo all around the world doesn’t apparently. ? i didn't highlight Dua because she has 0 #1s. DSN does feel like a #1. 22 minutes ago, Mattyboy said: How does We Can’t Talk Anymore feel like a #1? ? it's one of the 100 most streamed song on spotify and one of the most watched music videos on youtube. but i didn't even see that on the list nnn. Edited May 20, 2021 by selena_lavigne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Ranger Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, selena_lavigne said: ? i didn't highlight Dua because she has 0 #1s. DSN does feel like a #1. it's one of the 100 most streamed song on spotify and one of the most watched music videos on youtube. but i didn't even see that on the list nnn. it definitely wasn't as big in the US as it was in some other countries. Again proving the OPs point that #1s aren’t the be and end all of an artist. Dua’s #2 smash hits are bigger than a lot of #1s which is the whole point of the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selena_lavigne Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Pink Ranger said: Again proving the OPs point that #1s aren’t the be and end all of an artist. Dua’s #2 smash hits are bigger than a lot of #1s which is the whole point of the thread but it WASN'T #1 lmfaooo. serving #1 without all the songs above it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Sexy Savage Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Mattyboy said: How does We Can’t Talk Anymore feel like a #1? ? This is what will get back and forth arguments about the same topic you just posted. WDTA feels like a #1 as equally as DSN Edited May 20, 2021 by Sweet Sexy Savage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Ranger Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Just now, selena_lavigne said: but it WASN'T #1 lmfaooo. serving #1 without all the songs above it. You’re seriously not getting the point here My whole argument is based on songs like Willow, that Nicki song etc and all these songs that go #1 then plummet like a rock or serve hardly any longevity, those #1s don’t feel like #1s when you have songs like DSN which are huge hits that missed the top spot but people will claim she’s not huge because she doesn’t have a #1 what’s not clicking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selena_lavigne Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Pink Ranger said: You’re seriously not getting the point here My whole argument is based on songs like Willow, that Nicki song etc and all these songs that go #1 then plummet like a rock or serve hardly any longevity, those #1s don’t feel like #1s when you have songs like DSN which are huge hits that missed the top spot but people will claim she’s not huge because she doesn’t have a #1 what’s not clicking? those songs went #1 because of massive fanbases. something that Dua frankly does not have. Dua has not been able to get to #1 organically or through her fanbase yet. so the lashings do make sense. what's not clicking? Edited May 20, 2021 by selena_lavigne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabbGaga Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 idk all these artists are still winning in life so who cares. most #1s nowadays seem disposable anyway. billboard really need to fix their formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Ranger Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Just now, selena_lavigne said: those songs went #1 because of massive fanbases. something that Dua frankly does not have. Dua has not been able to get to #1 organically or through her fanbase yet. so the lashing do make sense. You’re right Dua doesn’t have a massive fanbase, she has something better… the geepee streaming, buying her albums/singles making them become smash hits Nicki’s cute frontloaded #1 cannot relate I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostcause Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Pink Ranger said: You’re right Dua doesn’t have a massive fanbase, she has something better… the geepee streaming, buying her albums/singles making them become smash hits Nicki’s cute frontloaded #1 cannot relate I fear. This sounds like what katycats used to say before…… a big fanbase is always more important to cultivate because the gp is fickle and will drop anyone in a heartbeat. But Dua has time to build, Nicki will never have the gp interested again and is doomed to only fanbase support. It’s a delicate line between building a fanbase while not totally alienating the gp for when they are ready to support again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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