dussymob Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Adonis said: If a song has what it takes to hit #1, it will hit #1 regardless of the shenanigans....or lack of a viral video. Dj Khalid does have a Top 10 hit with Drake. And despite not having any top 10 hit since then his profile has steadily grown. Also we are in the streaming age now and it's easier for hip hop to go top ten. I'm sure Khaled will have many more top tens since what he do is barely any different from Calvin Harris, Kygo, Chainsokers, etc. These Bieber fans are irritating.
Adonis Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, dussymob said: Also we are in the streaming age now and it's easier for hip hop to go top ten. I'm sure Khaled will have many more top tens since what he do is barely any different from Calvin Harris, Kygo, Chainsokers, etc. These Bieber fans are irritating. Dj Khaled does less than Calvin. He's just a connector. Calvin actually has a more active role in the creation of the record.
PurrKaty Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, Adonis said: Other artists are able to get 4th singles to hit the Top 10 even #1. Why the excuses for Justin? I'm more inclined to believe someone who just hit #1 as being the draw to a record than someone who's last single did nothing despite all the extra effort. Rihanna got her 4th single to hit top 5 without a video...and she wasn't coming off of three #1 hits. You're really misunderstanding everything... Clearly you don't understand the charts and music popularity. I'm not going to waste my time responding to you anymore.
Tempo Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, dussymob said: Also we are in the streaming age now and it's easier for hip hop to go top ten. I'm sure Khaled will have many more top tens since what he do is barely any different from Calvin Harris, Kygo, Chainsokers, etc. These Bieber fans are irritating. but he had 4 songs in 2016 and neither of them went top 10
Adonis Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, PurrKaty said: You're really misunderstanding everything... Clearly you don't understand the charts and music popularity. I'm not going to waste my time responding to you anymore. I understand charts and popularity as I've been on this and similar forums for almost my whole life. I'm not saying Justin isn't a draw. I think this song would've debuted Top 10 and maybe even Top 5 without him. I understand that coming off two hit records and one which hit #1 where both are still charting in the top 40 makes people interested in the next record. Edited May 5, 2017 by Adonis
PurrKaty Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 Despacito is 7 minutes ago, Adonis said: I understand charts and popularity as I've been on this and similar forums for almost my whole life. Well you are trying to say Justin has lost his power after a 4th single flopping... however his 3 singles prior all went #1. And 3 feature songs he was on after that all went top 10. And you bringing Rihanna into this hurts your atgueement. If you recall Rihanna's second single off that album flopped to the pits. But she was able to get a top 10 hit with her 4th single without promo or a video. Just based off a good song and star power. Thus proving one flop amongst many hits doesn't influence someone's overall star power. Just like Justin's can't be judge based off one song... Now I'm done replying cause I think you're just trolling at this point
Adonis Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, PurrKaty said: Despacito is Well you are trying to say Justin has lost his power after a 4th single flopping... however his 3 singles prior all went #1. And 3 feature songs he was on after that all went top 10. And you bringing Rihanna into this hurts your atgueement. If you recall Rihanna's second single off that album flopped to the pits. But she was able to get a top 10 hit with her 4th single without promo or a video. Just based off a good song and star power. Thus proving one flop amongst many hits doesn't influence someone's overall star power. Just like Justin's can't be judge based off one song... Now I'm done replying cause I think you're just trolling at this point I never said that. I said I think you are underestimating the popularity of the other artists on the record. The real question is would this song have a shot at debuting in the top 10 or top 5 without Justin? The answer is absolutely yes. That's the problem with you're argument. Edited May 5, 2017 by Adonis
PurrKaty Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Adonis said: I never said that. I said I think you are underestimating the popularity of the other artists on the record. The real question is would this song have a shot at debuting in the top 10 or top 5 without Justin? The answer is absolutely yes. That's the problem with you're argument. Never said the song wouldn't debut top 10 or top 5. Just said it wouldn't debut #1. Nor do I under estimate the other stars power. Please reread and educate. Edited May 5, 2017 by PurrKaty
Sgt. Pepper Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) Honestly I don't see I'm the One debuting at top 10 without Bieber's power. It might have hit top 10 sometime in its chart run even without Bieber though. It's funny even with 2 songs predicted to conquer top 3 on the chart next week, ATRL still cast their doubt on Bieber's popularity Edited May 5, 2017 by Sgt. Pepper
Capruni Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 51 minutes ago, B-Rabbit said: Lmao. Cold Water debuted at #2 because it had a lyric video not a music video. When the music video came out much later, it was just a dance video and didn't feature Bieber. DJ Snake didn't release a video until months after the single was released and it didn't feature Bieber either Migos gets 1 Hot 100 #1 in his career off of a meme and DJ Khaled doesn't have a single Top 10 Hit in his career and but sure DJ Khaled has a top ten hit, number 10 peaking single "I'm on One"
B-Rabbit Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Capruni said: DJ Khaled has a top ten hit, number 10 peaking single "I'm on One" Yes from 2011 and it's his best song. I meant like 1-9
Blue Momo! Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 If the song is #1 it should be considered a hit? It doesn't sound like a hit to me
Pheromosa Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, Blue Momo! said: If the song is #1 it should be considered a hit? It doesn't sound like a hit to me any song in the top 40 is a hit. they just have different magnitudes
SelenaTheWinner Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 16 hours ago, ARTPØP said: Early Predictions. (01) I'm The One || iTunes: #2 || Radio: #29 || Spotify: #2 || YouTube: #4 || Pandora: N/A (NEW) (02) That's What I Like || iTunes: #5 || Radio: #2 || Spotify: #9* || YouTube: #3 || Pandora: #2 (-1) (03) Despacito || iTunes: #1* || Radio: #27 || Spotify: #3 || YouTube: #12 || Pandora: #84 (+1) (04) Shape of You || iTunes: #14 || Radio: #1 || Spotify: #10* || YouTube: #7 || Pandora: #1 (-2) (05) HUMBLE. || iTunes: #6 || Radio: #24 || Spotify: #1 || YouTube: #1 || Pandora: #6 (-2) (06) Mask Off || iTunes: #25 || Radio: #30 || Spotify: #5 || YouTube: #5 || Pandora: #4 (-1) (07) Something Just Like This || iTunes: #4 || Radio: #3 || Spotify: #18* || YouTube: #20 || Pandora: #10 (-1) (08) It Ain't Me || iTunes: #10 || Radio: #4 || Spotify: #17* || YouTube: N/A || Pandora: #7 (+2) (09) XO Tour Llif3 || iTunes: #44 || Radio: #294 || Spotify: #6 || YouTube: #2 || Pandora: #48 (=) (10) iSpy || iTunes: #20 || Radio: #20 || Spotify: #7 || YouTube: #6 || Pandora: #3 (-2) (11) Stay || iTunes: #12 || Radio: #6 || Spotify: #12 || YouTube: #16 || Pandora: #5 (=) (12) Say You Won't Let Go || iTunes: #11 || Radio: #5 || Spotify: #47* || YouTube: N/A || Pandora: #9 (+1) (13) DNA. || iTunes: #24 || Radio: N/A || Spotify: #4 || YouTube: #10 || Pandora: #29 (-6) (14) Body Like a Back Road || iTunes: #8 || Radio: #10 || Spotify: #22* || YouTube: N/A || Pandora: #21 (-2) (15) Issues || iTunes: #9 || Radio: #11 || Spotify: #20* || YouTube: N/A || Pandora: #12 (-1) (16) Passionfruit || iTunes: #43 || Radio: #16 || Spotify: #8* || YouTube: N/A || Pandora: #8 (+2) (17) Congratulations || iTunes: #22 || Radio: #105 || Spotify: #15* || YouTube: #8 || Pandora: #41 (-2) (18) Location || iTunes: #73 || Radio: #33 || Spotify: #11* || YouTube: N/A || Pandora: N/A (-2) (19) Rockabye || iTunes: #27 || Radio: #7 || Spotify: #99 || YouTube: N/A || Pandora: #14 (-2) (20) Believer || iTunes: #7 || Radio: #55 || Spotify: #35* || YouTube: N/A || Pandora: #18 (+17) IT AINT ME!? Wow.
novembers17th Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 26 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Honestly I don't see I'm the One debuting at top 10 without Bieber's power. It might have hit top 10 sometime in its chart run even without Bieber though. It's funny even with 2 songs predicted to conquer top 3 on the chart next week, ATRL still cast their doubt on Bieber's popularity This x10 to both of these points.
dussymob Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Adonis said: Dj Khaled does less than Calvin. He's just a connector. Calvin actually has a more active role in the creation of the record. You're right I meant his title is no different.
alexis Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 36 minutes ago, Sgt. Pepper said: Honestly I don't see I'm the One debuting at top 10 without Bieber's power. It might have hit top 10 sometime in its chart run even without Bieber though. It's funny even with 2 songs predicted to conquer top 3 on the chart next week, ATRL still cast their doubt on Bieber's popularity
IVY Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) This Khalid song will be forgotten before the end of the year, these songs debuting at #1 on its first week always end up being the least successful when it's all over and done with some exceptions. It's a shame that TWIL wont have a second week at the top because it deserves it and has been proving itself on the charts for 15 weeks. Streaming will give Bieber a lot of undeserved #1 hits. Edited May 5, 2017 by IVY
alexis Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, IVY said: This Khalid song will be forgotten before the end of the year, these songs debuting at #1 on its first week always end up being the least successful when it's all over and done with some exceptions. It's a shame that TWIL wont have a second week at the top because it deserves it and has been proving itself on the charts for 15 weeks. Streaming will give Bieber a lot of undeserved #1 hits. he had a song that sold 500k+ 1st week and didn't even get a #1, he sells a lot, he loses. he streams a lot, he also loses.
alexanderao Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, IVY said: This Khalid song will be forgotten before the end of the year, these songs debuting at #1 on its first week always end up being the least successful when it's all over and done with some exceptions. It's a shame that TWIL wont have a second week at the top because it deserves it and has been proving itself on the charts for 15 weeks. Streaming will give Bieber a lot of undeserved #1 hits. I still don't know how to evaluate the statement "undeserved hit" other than as a subjective opinion, even though you make it seem like deservedness can be objectively measured.
QueenofCopyPaste Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 @simmnfierzig will DK Khaled spend a 2nd week at #1? What are the chances?
IVY Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, alexis said: he had a song that sold 500k+ 1st week and didn't even get a #1, he sells a lot, he loses. he streams a lot, he also loses. And how much did this huge 500k +1st week hit end up selling during the time when digital sales were at its peak? His fans go crazy on his new releases' first week and with the streaming added, he will be getting #1 hits every now and then, as I remember Bieber's songs were never huge digitally even when digital sales was dominating the industry, you can't deny that streaming has been doing wonders for some artists like bieber, streaming revived his career. For a song to become a certified hit it needs to prove itself for weeks on the charts and do well on different formats. Edited May 5, 2017 by IVY
Adonis Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 30 minutes ago, novembers17th said: This x10 to both of these points. Believe whatever you want. Dj Khalid had a Top Ten debut previously with and with less star power being featured. So naturally when he gets two of the hottest rappers of the moment on one song when they've already been recently successful they'd likely get a Top 10 debut. I don't think the streaming would be as high particularly on Spotify and AM if it weren't for the rappers involved.
alexis Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 Just now, IVY said: And how much did this 500k +1st week song end up selling during the time when digital sales were at their peak? His fans go crazy on his new releases' first week and with the streaming added, he will be getting #1 hits every now and then, as I remember Bieber's songs were never huge digitally even when digital sales was dominating the industry, you can't deny that streaming has been doing wonders for some artists like bieber, streaming revived his career. A song to become a certified hit needs to prove itself for weeks on the charts and do well on different formats. lol this is false. he is ALSO selling more than his peers in addition to streaming. purpose did almost 6 million (more than his 2012 album.) he has streaming, radio and sales and has for the pas 3 years. your argument is untrue because he has gotten way bigger since 2012, streaming isn't what's making him successful.
Pacaveli Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 On 4.05.2017 at 5:18 PM, simmnfierzig said: Fridays Oh, my bad. I'm sorry.
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