mcohen Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just now, Summer Boy said: Rain On Me sold more and without several remixes! Also it dropped to #5 in its second week, while willow is predicted to fall to #36 (beating the TROLLZ record!). Not sure what early predictions for Week 2 have to do with you labeling its #1 debut a fraud   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summer Boy Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just now, mcohen said: Not sure what early predictions for Week 2 have to do with you labeling its #1 debut a fraud   Because a #1 song (only #1 because of cheap remixes and discounts of discounts) dropping 35 positions in its second week is obviously fraudulent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naval23 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Summer Boy said: Rain On Me sold more and without several remixes! Also it dropped to #5 in its second week, while willow is predicted to fall to #36 (beating the TROLLZ record!).   OMG nnnnnn - first Taylor blocked Anaconda from #1 and she can't even let Nicki have this record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcohen Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Summer Boy said: Because a #1 song (only #1 because of cheap remixes and discounts of discounts) dropping 35 positions in its second week is obviously fraudulent. Did your randomly forget the massive first week streams, low airplay and the approximately 20 Christmas songs above it next week? Or just playing dumb for the drags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summer Boy Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just now, naval23 said: OMG nnnnnn - first Taylor blocked Anaconda from #1 and she can't even let Nicki have this record Taylor is truly the music industry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adonis Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, DiamondHoe said: This site screaming FRAUD about BTS, Travis and Nicki’s forced #1s yet says congrats when Taylor does the same?? So it’s only ok when the artist is white??  why am I not surprised. Yeah LMAO!!!!  It was a fraud. Another desperate fraudulent #1. Looking forward to a #1 - 15 - 25 - 75 - OUT situation. Edited December 21, 2020 by Adonis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 hours ago, DiamondHoe said: This site screaming FRAUD about BTS, Travis and Nicki’s forced #1s yet says congrats when Taylor does the same?? So it’s only ok when the artist is white??  why am I not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adonis Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, cityfolk said: Â Imagine being more fraudulent than 69 and Nicki Minaj and BTS. LMAO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Summer Boy said: Rain On Me sold more and without several remixes! Also it dropped to #5 in its second week, while willow is predicted to fall to #36 (beating the TROLLZ record!).   Because it had physical releases, which aren’t allowed anymore. The way y’all continue to play dumb.  Also let’s not mention the onslaught of Christmas songs that will be pushing Willow down next week. That would be too objective huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelter Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, cityfolk said: Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOSS Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Headlock said: Because it had physical releases, which aren’t allowed anymore. The way y’all continue to play dumb.  Also let’s not mention the onslaught of Christmas songs that will be pushing Willow down next week. That would be too objective huh. Physical single releases aren’t allowed anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argos Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Summer Boy said: Rain On Me sold more and without several remixes! Also it dropped to #5 in its second week, while willow is predicted to fall to #36 (beating the TROLLZ record!). 1. It sold more because it did not come with Chromatica, an album that with physicals, bundles and signed CDs was still not able to sell close to what evermore sold with streams and digitals only. 2. It only had such a swift descent because the album came in the week after it, which always increases streams of prior singles. 3. "willow" is a solo #1 and Taylor did not need to recruit the current hit girl to achieve this feat Edited December 21, 2020 by argos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, VOSS said: Physical single releases aren’t allowed anymore? Worded that wrong, pre-order physicals aren’t counted anymore if they don’t ship first week. Rain On Me had that benefit, as did Cardigan and a bunch of other songs. Not dragging anyone, just pointing out how things have changed. Edited December 21, 2020 by Headlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starchild Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, argos said: 1. It sold more because it did not come with Chromatica, an album that with physicals, bundles and signed CDs was still not album to sell close to what evermore sold with streams and digitals only. 2. It only had such a swift descent because the album came in the week after it, which always increases streams of prior singles. 3. "willow" is a solo #1 and Taylor did not need to recruit the current hit girl to achieve this feat The way people are SUFFERING over her is EMBARRASSING. Especially my fellow Gaga stans always putting their foot in their mouth when their releases were completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argos Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Adonis said: Imagine being more fraudulent than 69 and Nicki Minaj and BTS. LMAO!!! with like 25 xmas songs debuting above it, can you stop trolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrieLz Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Im glad Taylor snatch that #1 if she failed to debut #1, She will be dragged even more on twitter  and Dynamite back to top 10  Taylor & BTS in the top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfolk Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just now, argos said: with like 25 xmas songs debuting above it, can you stop trolling 145 points would put it at #15-20 in any given week, which is still a horrific drop from "#1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argos Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, cityfolk said: 145 points would put it at #15-20 in any given week, which is still a horrific drop from "#1" but certainly not a challenge for a TROLLZ type of drop like some lunatics are claiming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finkypop Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 The fumes in here OT:  Her SEVENTH #1 (and counting), the same week her newest album is #1 and her previous album is #3 on the albums chart. Her simultaneous chokehold at the top of EVERY chart whenever she releases. The non-stop winning of Taylor Alison Swift, ladies and gentlemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, cityfolk said: 145 points would put it at #15-20 in any given week, which is still a horrific drop from "#1" ...but that’s not what these OTHs are arguing. They’re saying it would be the biggest drop of all time, which in any other circumstance, it wouldn’t be. Edited December 21, 2020 by Headlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doonerr Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 There's literally people that are dying  Miss Swift and Miss Gaga both did some trickery in the singles department in some way or form  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XVIIII Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, brainmaniac said: That person randomly making this a Top 11 tweet to sneak Britney in    Edited December 21, 2020 by XVIIII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finkypop Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 hours ago, cuneytb said: Totally disgusting. BTS is a young group with talented people who are working their ASS OFF to get a hit yet here we have this basic bitch with all her tricks being celebrated.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zs2236 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Why are people mentioning rain on me when it did around 65k from iTunes alone. It had 7k from her web store. 65k alone would be more than enough since it had ~30 million streams. Stupid love had 50k iTunes sales and 3k bundles according to Nielsen. So idgi. Ot- I think album releases during q4 don’t do as well due to all those Christmas songs. She should’ve released willow a week before and the album this week. Willow would’ve been top 10 for a second week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfolk Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Headlock said: ...but that’s not what these OTHs are arguing. They’re saying it would be the biggest drop of all time, which in any other circumstance, it wouldn’t be. In a non-holiday circumstance it wouldn't be the biggest drop, that's correct. It would still be the 4th-biggest, however.  While still the song bombed, it's also worth noting that there were TEN Christmas songs above Life Goes On in it's second week. If not, it would've been at #18, only the third biggest drop, and Franchise would be the 2nd biggest drop behind TROLLZ.  Bad timing for both making their chart positions worse, but the falls from #1 are horrific nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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