charts discussion “Positions” surpassed “Folklore” on Apple Music US (Top 10)

[fridayteenage]

coming for a million US sales this century

[Near]

15 minutes ago, INTOBISH said:

positions streams in week 4, 5 and 6 (106M-98M-88M) outstreamed folklore’s 4th week (86M)

I'd hope so for a pop album with two singles being pushed. Doesn't change the fact that the streaming queen highly anticipated release after her biggest era did half the stream units than taylors surprise release after her underperforming lover era, while also being outsold in pure sales by over 10times. 

 

Edited December 13, 2020 by Near
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[INTOBISH]

5 minutes ago, Near said:

I'd hope so for a pop album with two singles being pushed. Doesn't change the fact that the streaming queen highly anticipated release after her biggest era did half the stream units than taylors surprise release after her underperforming lover era, while also outselling her pure sales by over 10times. 

 

Thank you for pointing out the reason folklore did extremely good streaming wise in the first week, aka surprise release and the hype around it. Too bad it lasted only two weeks, in fact positions started to outstream it in the third week.

 

And you were already calling Taylor the “queen of streaming”

[4Real]

The fact that taylor swift puts up with ariana grande in the streaming department (and actually demolishes her when it comes to debuts) is very embarassing for the so called queen of streaming, in my opinion.

 

Ot: congrats!

[Near]

1 minute ago, INTOBISH said:

Thank you for pointing out the reason folklore did extremely good streaming wise in the first week, aka surprise release and the hype around it. Too bad it lasted only two weeks, in fact positions started to outstream it in the third week.

 

And you were already calling Taylor the “queen of streaming”

I'd hope then ariana gets on the trend of surprise releasing albums to make up for the humongous decrease in streaming units from tyn to positions. She clearly needs it given even taylor's 2019 release lover did better streaming numbers than her despite not being a surprise release!

[Starstruck.]

35 minutes ago, INTOBISH said:

positions streams in week 4, 5 and 6 (106M-98M-88M) outstreamed folklore’s 4th week (86M)

yes, with 3 songs STILL on TTH and massive playlisting 

 

folklore’s numbers are more impressive so you should remain quiet  

[Oxygen]

Positions is having great longevity

[Wondy Lust]

Of all the people Ariana fans want to go against, why'd it have to be the one who demolishes the majority of her contemporaries 

[INTOBISH]

1 hour ago, Near said:

I'd hope then ariana gets on the trend of surprise releasing albums to make up for the humongous decrease in streaming units from tyn to positions. She clearly needs it given even taylor's 2019 release lover did better streaming numbers than her despite not being a surprise release!

Ariana outstreamed Taylor in 2020 despite the latter releasing 3 versions of the same album

Edited December 13, 2020 by INTOBISH

[Near]

2 minutes ago, INTOBISH said:

Ariana outstreamed Taylor in 2020 despite the latter releasing 3 versions of the same album

 

[Glamthony]

Ew. That can't even be called an "album".

[Popboi.]

6 minutes ago, Near said:

 

Welp  

[Glamthony]

Why are arinators bragging about streams when Taylor is the one that actually SELLS records? Spotify is 6 dollars a month (considering you don't belong to a family package), it's crearly that a record that makes people spent their money and buy it instead of some free or cheap streams is the winner.

 

Folklore alone has sold more records (pure sales) than the 3 last records Ariana released. 

 

Arianators should take a sit, Taylor is on another league.

[Jude]

Y'all ain't tired?

 

 

[Jude]

55 minutes ago, Glamthony said:

Why are arinators bragging about streams when Taylor is the one that actually SELLS records? Spotify is 6 dollars a month (considering you don't belong to a family package), it's crearly that a record that makes people spent their money and buy it instead of some free or cheap streams is the winner.

 

Folklore alone has sold more records (pure sales) than the 3 last records Ariana released. 

 

Arianators should take a sit, Taylor is on another league.

Why are Taylor stans so elitist? Not all can afford to but music nowadays. Taylor peaked in pure sales era and built her fanbase that prefers buying music while Ariana peaked in streaming era so her fan base prefer to stream than buying them. 85% of there music industry revenue of 2020 actually came from streaming.  Physical sales are only 7% of the revenue and digital 6%. 

 

Stop acting like streaming doesn't give label money when it's the one saving it from being dead.  

[Glamthony]

5 minutes ago, Jude said:

Why are Taylor stans so elitist? Not all can afford to but music nowadays. Taylor peaked in pure sales era and built her fanbase that prefers buying music while Ariana peaked in streaming era so her fan base prefer to stream than buying them. 85% of there music industry revenue of 2020 actually came from streaming.  Physical sales are only 7% of the revenue and digital 6%. 

 

Stop acting like streaming doesn't give label money when it's the one saving it from being dead.  

CDs cost 6 to 10 dollars, thats the cost of a couple of beers. Some people choose to spend it on music that's worth it. Anything else, can get a couple of streams.

[Jude]

Just now, Glamthony said:

CDs cost 6 to 10 dollars, thats the cost of a couple of beers. Some people choose to spend it on music that's worth it. Anything else, can get a couple of streams.

Yeah, continue with your elitist behavior and ignore the fact that streaming is the one giving 85% of the music revenue this year. 

[Not Like The Movies]

Talent won 

[gr33dy4Ari]

1 hour ago, Jude said:

Yeah, continue with your elitist behavior and ignore the fact that streaming is the one giving 85% of the music revenue this year. 

Exactly. Streaming is STILL music consumption. At the end of they day, buying and/or streaming albums BOTH mean LISTENING to music. 

[style17]

ariana and taylor are both streaming queens

[naval23]

[KeshaSwift]

Both are streaming elixirs. Sit down 

[mcohen]

23 hours ago, Jude said:

 ignore the fact that streaming is the one giving 85% of the music revenue this year. 

No one is ignoring that. We stan the most streamed female artist this year

 

[mypaintoyou]

The fact that queen Taylor outsold Ariana at her peak omg 

and weren’t her little fans complaining for the flop age of positions blaming Halloween and the elections LMFAO

what part of this isn’t a pop record 

I wish Ariana would release a surprise alternative album and see what she does 

plus Ariana is only on top cause of streaming without it she’s nothing 

[raven]

the fumes in this thread and for what? some of y'all are making no sense at all  both these ladies are doing well and are currently the biggest female artists in the game 

 

On 12/13/2020 at 4:24 PM, Glamthony said:

Why are arinators bragging about streams when Taylor is the one that actually SELLS records? Spotify is 6 dollars a month (considering you don't belong to a family package), it's crearly that a record that makes people spent their money and buy it instead of some free or cheap streams is the winner.

 

Folklore alone has sold more records (pure sales) than the 3 last records Ariana released. 

 

Arianators should take a sit, Taylor is on another league.

cause Ariana debuted and built an audience in the streaming era and we're in 2020 where that's the main method of consumption. iTunes is a dying platform and it's mostly only artists who debuted pre-streaming that are able to move pure sales units well hence why Taylor's are so high (amongst other things). are we seriously still on this debate in 2020? get with the times sis 

 

33 minutes ago, mypaintoyou said:

The fact that queen Taylor outsold Ariana at her peak omg 

and weren’t her little fans complaining for the flop age of positions blaming Halloween and the elections LMFAO

what part of this isn’t a pop record 

I wish Ariana would release a surprise alternative album and see what she does 

plus Ariana is only on top cause of streaming without it she’s nothing 

now why in the hell would Ariana release an alternative record?  and of course she's gonna be on top because of streaming because AGAIN that is how literally everyone consumes music nowadays. that's like saying an artist back in 2008 was only on top because of digital sales and they would be nothing without it. make it make sense 

 

ot: happy to see these two ladies dominating in their respective lanes 

Edited December 14, 2020 by raven