666 Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Starboys said: Mariah Carey sits in her mansion. Nicki Minaj sits at her vanity. OT: congrats Kendrick
Letters From Adi Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 27 minutes ago, JeanNicacio said: is just amazing how the angels help mariah with the record for most weeks at #1 every single year I Gotta Feeling checked Boom Boom Pow checked Blurred Lines checked Happy checked Uptown Funk checked See You Again checked One Dance checked Shape Of You snatched She made the song for AIDS victims, so God bless her for her good deed
Tinker Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, 666 said: Nicki Minaj sits at her vanity. OT: congrats Kendrick Leave Nic out of the mess pls.
Letters From Adi Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 I'm definitely sure Rumor Has It could've been the 4th #1. It peaked at #16 after the Glee cover.
666 Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 Just now, Tinker said: Leave Nic out of the mess pls. i was simply noting the inspiration. there's no mess OT: Bruno for next week?
Unbreakable Heaven Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Achilles. said: Artists That Simultaneously Topped the Hot 100 and Billboard 200 in the 2010s Kendrick Lamar - Damn / "Humble" Ed Sheeran - Divide / "Shape of You" Drake - Views / "One Dance" Rihanna - Anti / "Work" Adele - 25 / "Hello" The Weeknd - Beauty Behind The Madness / "Can't Feel My Face" & "The Hills" Taylor Swift - 1989 / "Shake It Off" & "Blank Space" Robin Thicke - Blurred Lines / "Blurred Lines" Rihanna - Unapologetic / "Diamonds" Adele - 21 / "Rolling In The Deep" & "Someone Like You" & "Set Fire To The Rain" Eminem - Recovery / "Love The Way You Lie" Kesha - Animal / "Tik Tok" nice list.
FutureHive Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 32 minutes ago, JeanNicacio said: Waiting for the arguments of the Grammy voters to validate the winning of Divide over DAMN. aka the best album of the year now that HUMBLE hit the #1 and the album sold 600k+ its still not as accessible as the last 2 rap albums to win AOTY. lauryn hill and outkast u need Kendrick level quality and drake level radio friendliness
digitaldistortion Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 Black Excellence showing how it's done yet again
dussymob Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 38 minutes ago, JeanNicacio said: is just amazing how the angels help mariah with the record for most weeks at #1 every single year I Gotta Feeling checked Boom Boom Pow checked Blurred Lines checked Happy checked Uptown Funk checked See You Again checked One Dance checked Shape Of You snatched Why is One Dance on here and not Closer?
IVY Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 How is SOY still ahead of like? I thought like is already ahead of SOY in both the streaming and sales for this week.
Mr. Wonder Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 1 hour ago, alexanderao said: The Hot 100 definitely doesn't have any accuracy issues right now. If anything, streaming's influence needs to be increased. Billboard is irrationally stubborn about making sure sales don't fall below their current level of influence. Sales should always be highly influential when calculating the Hot 100, or any chart tbh. It reflects true popularity tbh, imo.
PurpleQueen Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 39 minutes ago, JeanNicacio said: Waiting for the arguments of the Grammy voters to validate the winning of Divide over DAMN. aka the best album of the year now that HUMBLE hit the #1 and the album sold 600k+ lol you know it will happen to.
igetfilthy Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Mr. Wonder said: Sales should always be highly influential when calculating the Hot 100, or any chart tbh. It reflects true popularity tbh, imo. Sales do not reflect popularity as much as streaming. Billboard will never be able to calculate how many times a person listens to a song through sales. You can buy a song, but only play it once! While streaming is showing the longevity of the song and how much it's being consumed!
Mr. Wonder Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, igetfilthy said: Sales do not reflect popularity as much as streaming. Billboard will never be able to calculate how many times a person listens to a song through sales. You can buy a song, but only play it once! While streaming is showing the longevity of the song and how much it's being consumed! And by the same token, you can listen to a song 100 times, but you're still only one person that has heard the song 100 times.
simmnfierzig Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 9 minutes ago, IVY said: How is SOY still ahead of like? I thought like is already ahead of SOY in both the streaming and sales for this week. SOY is at 39.5M streams and Billboard didn't give TWIL streaming but I have it at 34M
igetfilthy Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Mr. Wonder said: And by the same token, you can listen to a song 100 times, but you're still only one person that has heard the song 100 times. But 1 stream does not have the same impact on Billboard as 1 sale!
simmnfierzig Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 Waiting for kworb estimates, but it looks like it's basically a 3 way tie for next week between Humble, SOY and TWIL
Mr. Wonder Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, igetfilthy said: But 1 stream does not have the same impact on Billboard as 1 sale! If 500 people got together and listened to a song 500 times, does that make it "more popular" than 250 different people getting together and purchasing a song? No. Sales reflect what people are buying, which is more of a testament of popularity than streaming.
Fruity Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mr. Wonder said: And by the same token, you can listen to a song 100 times, but you're still only one person that has heard the song 100 times. What kind of argument is this
Mr. Wonder Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Fruity said: What kind of argument is this It's not an argument.
iHype. Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Waiting for kworb estimates, but it looks like it's basically a 3 way tie for next week between Humble, SOY and TWIL Bruno's song will probably be discounted now.
igetfilthy Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mr. Wonder said: If 500 people got together and listened to a song 500 times, does that make it "more popular" than 250 different people getting together and purchasing a song? No. Sales reflect what people are buying, which is more of a testament of popularity than streaming. You're not even using the right formula! The formula is 150 streams = 1 sale! So if 250 people bought a song, that equals 37,500 people streaming one song one time!
Pheromosa Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Waiting for kworb estimates, but it looks like it's basically a 3 way tie for next week between Humble, SOY and TWIL My heart
alexanderao Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, Mr. Wonder said: Sales should always be highly influential when calculating the Hot 100, or any chart tbh. It reflects true popularity tbh, imo. Why should sales maintain their influence when they're falling off a cliff? Over the last three years, the proportion of music consumers that buy music has drastically decreased. As such, sales are becoming far less representative of consumption than they were before. It follows, then, that their influence on the Hot 100 should decrease. The opposite phenomenon is happening with streaming, which is becoming more representative of the music-consuming public—such a trend merits an increased influence on the Hot 100. To reiterate, I fail to understand how one can advocate for sales keeping their current influence on the Hot 100 as the demographic base that it represents is becoming increasingly unlikely that of the music-consuming public. Regardless, sales are actually a flawed measurement of popularity in the first place. Sales are incapable of monitoring listener activity after the initial purchase. Imagine a hypothetical in which I buy a song and you buy the same song. Over a certain time period, I spin the track 500 times, but you only do so 20 times. If you're using sales to measure that song's popularity, our activity is counted as exactly equal, because we each bought the song once. Does that seem accurate? The upside to streaming is that spins after the initial discovery of a song are logged without a problem and factored into the popularity measurement.
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