exists Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Can Billboard stop counting website sales and put less weight on discounted songs? They have to realize how embarassing their system is now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainDreamer Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, Starkboy said: This must be the most uneventful #1 ever. #400 Apple Music #78 Spotify #24 iTunes NC Radio Serving next level fraud,at least the song is a smash to their fans . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoto Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, fridayteenage said: T2-out of t10 this year: the scotts stuck with u trollz franchise forever after all therefore i am The new BEP. Billie will be back. So you better start a list of T2-OUT-Back Top10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, Baby Judas said: Oh their website sales will always pull through.. Probably. They will be at least in the top 15 Nicki will keep her record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okbyefornow Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, Starkboy said: This must be the most uneventful #1 ever. #400 Apple Music #78 Spotify #24 iTunes NC Radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Starkboy said: This must be the most uneventful #1 ever. #400 Apple Music #78 Spotify #24 iTunes NC Radio A bunch of cons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRod93 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I don't think it's really a fraud, it's just their fans know how to best play the system. However, it's not just theirs. It's been a current thing for most artists to be more forthcoming about wanting/needing their fans to stream/buy just so that they can get a #1. However, it is remarkable that they were able to do it when One Direction and Directioners never were able (even when they had the advantage thanks to having English songs). I guess I am just wondering now if it's really a win for Kpop (or any Korean artist) as a whole, instead of just BTS having a massive unique fanbase that doesn't translate to a whole movement. I know Blackpink were also recently able to do well, but it goes for them as well. Even though the media keeps hyping the whole BTS phenomenon as a Kpop phenomenon, it's really starting to feel more like a simple "boyband" phenomenon. Which, I mean, great for them and their fans. They know how to get what they want. Plus, I don't get this whole "fraud #1" when A LOT of the number ones this year got there through murky methods. There should be a talk about making the charts more representative of what most people listen to, but I feel like most people are only screaming fraud because it's BTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwagLikeALegend Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 The way people in here don’t understand the actual definition of fraud. Stay seething. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Judas Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, exists said: Can Billboard stop counting website sales and put less weight on discounted songs? They have to realize how embarassing their system is now They're getting the clicks that they need from their fans, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Quote It also earned 410,000 radio airplay audience impressions in the week ending Nov. 29 (with KJYO Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, the lone reporter to play it double-digit times: 13). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylizzle Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 The least known #1 song of all time I'm embarrassed that the 'American breakthrough' of kpop is just a cult mass buying boring music. T-ARA deserved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Velvet Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Billboard will continue losing its integrity if it allows fans to play them like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamGlow Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 BTS wins again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nando_05 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Congrats BTS. I don’t understand what they’re saying but i love that song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katamari Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, drmkng said: in 3 months, 3 number singles They broke so many records!!!! Read that billboard long article lol Kings!!!! and atrl continues fumes rm and friends did that :clap3: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doonerr Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Don't get the appeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smates Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Dynamite (which is #3 after 3 months) had great stats but y'all dragged that one, too. Life Goes On had bad playlisting, only 160 spins or sth on radio ofc it relies on the fans. If they can buy it, why wouldn't they buy it. BTS continues to stomp and break records. Fans continue to receive quality content constantly. Y'all are fuming. This is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quitedangerous Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Ariana still smashing That's all I care about, congrats to BTS and their website sales pulling through I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsmydemi Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 probably the most forgettable #1 in history but congrats to them. It's still an achievement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakisfan16 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Starkboy said: The way that Mendes-Bieber barely debuted top10 (in a year in which you only need a couple of cheap tactics to debut #1) is a win to me. the fact that justin's song holy is still higher than shawn's 2nd single is a win to me.no one can save shawn this time.thank you justin for helping shawn to have a top 10 hit this year Edited November 30, 2020 by sakisfan16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popboi. Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, DRod93 said: I don't think it's really a fraud, it's just their fans know how to best play the system. However, it's not just theirs. It's been a current thing for most artists to be more forthcoming about wanting/needing their fans to stream/buy just so that they can get a #1. However, it is remarkable that they were able to do it when One Direction and Directioners never were able (even when they had the advantage thanks to having English songs). I guess I am just wondering now if it's really a win for Kpop (or any Korean artist) as a whole, instead of just BTS having a massive unique fanbase that doesn't translate to a whole movement. I know Blackpink were also recently able to do well, but it goes for them as well. Even though the media keeps hyping the whole BTS phenomenon as a Kpop phenomenon, it's really starting to feel more like a simple "boyband" phenomenon. Which, I mean, great for them and their fans. They know how to get what they want. Plus, I don't get this whole "fraud #1" when A LOT of the number ones this year got there through murky methods. There should be a talk about making the charts more representative of what most people listen to, but I feel like most people are only screaming fraud because it's BTS. For 1D it was hard, they had the massive sales but there was always another song having massive sales too. BTS excellent in sales when there's not many standing out in that field at all. Also they shoot themselves in the foot many times with messy release schedules, like Drag Me Down would've debuted #1 had it been released at the start of the tracking week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 At least this one is not in English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsmydemi Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, Kyoto said: You better get your kiis now, cause monster will serve a top 10-top40 next week. 35 Monster (Shawn Mendes & Justin Bieber) by Shawn Mendes 530,118 Shawn Mendes flopping this year is so unexpected to me But I'm so glad. Island Records deserves this for treating my girl like **** and saving all the payola and promo for Shawn instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Whitney Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 they're about to serve a 1-OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idkwiam Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 44 minutes ago, Starkboy said: This must be the most uneventful #1 ever. #400 Apple Music #78 Spotify #24 iTunes NC Radio WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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