Overprotected Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 25 minutes ago, thecptz said: wheres your critiques Spoiler Kacey Musty: No ma'am. 5/10
Noah Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 @Astronomy where did it say the song had to be positive? it said it had to deliver a positive message and that can still be done through a dark, grim, and depressing song
shelven Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 Spoiler Kacey Musgraves: Omg I forgot about this song, but wow yeah it’s basically the perfect example of this round. It clearly has a positive message, and the statement is especially strong and bold in the context of country music. Excellent start to this round! Ariana Grande: I mean, it gets points for being positive, but it’s not really making a “statement”. It’s uplifting, but it’s more of a celebration than it is an actual message. Celine Dion: There’s barely a statement in here of any kind. It gets some points for being positive and motivational, but “believe that love will come to you” just isn’t really a statement. Rihanna: Ok good, we’re back to songs that actually make a statement. The song’s clearly making a statement about chasing the American dream. While there’s some slight allusions to criticizing the American dream in the lyrics, overall this is also a positive message, so good choice. Katy Perry: Well this is definitely very empowering and very unambiguously positive. The message itself is kind of generic and she doesn’t really offer anything new, BUT at least the song meets the criteria of the round! Lorde: Okay so this one has the opposite problem of some of the others so far- it very clearly makes an actual statement, but it’s not positive in the slightest. I’ll give you a bit of a break because the prompt wasn’t super clear that the message HAD to be positive, but it won’t do as well as songs that hit both marks of making a statement and being positive. Nicki Minaj: Another one where the song is positive, but it doesn’t really have an actual message or make an interesting statement. The song’s basically just about enjoying life, which can’t really be characterized as making a statement. Hyuna: This one’s kind of weird because half of the lyrics don’t convey any message whatsoever and are just about dancing, and then other parts pretty clearly send a message about not letting yourself be controlled by judgements and societal standards. But at least this one sometimes makes a statement, as opposed to a bunch of other songs so far that haven’t made one at all. Alicia Keys: FINALLY another song that clearly fits the criteria. Positive/empowering and clearly intended to send a message. This one gets the Katy critique where the message is kind of boring, but I do prefer this one to that because the message is communicated in a more nuanced way. Good job overall! Janelle Monae: The message is a bit more subtle in here compared to some of the others, but I actually like that because it makes the song and statement more interesting and less generic. The beginning of the song doesn’t really feel super connected to the message, but about halfway through the statement emerges, so overall this is pretty good. Fantasia: The song has a clear message, it’s captured throughout all of the lyrics, and it’s positive/empowering without just being a generic “I’m strong” song. You nailed it! MARINA: So the song is obviously making a statement, but the tone of the statement is confusing - I guess I can see a reading of this as empowering, but it also feels a lot like a criticism of society’s perceptions of sex. But like I said with Lorde, I won’t be too harsh on songs that weren’t unambiguously positive because the prompt was a bit unclear on whether that was a hard requirement. Demi Lovato: An obvious choice, but like I’ve said to people in previous rounds, that’s not a bad thing for me if it meets the criteria! The song is obviously an empowerment anthem and is sending a clearly positive message. I guess it gets the Katy/Alicia critique of being kind of a generic message, but I think this song mostly makes up for that with how empowering and forceful it is in the production and vocals. LOONA: Am I missing something? Because I don’t get any sort of statement or message in here at all. There’s like one or two lines where a hint of a message kind of starts to emerge, but “fly like a butterfly” really just isn’t a fully formed message or statement. Ellie Goulding: Like I’ve said for a lot of other songs already, the song is positive, but beyond that there’s not much of an actual message or statement in here. It’s empowering, but in an abstract way that never really forms itself into a statement. Kelly Clarkson: The message about body empowerment and lifting up bigger women is clearly here, so it meets both criteria for being a message and being positive. As just a slight personal critique, I’m not a huge fan of the suggestion in this (and some other similar body empowerment songs) that the empowerment is still framed around being attractive to men. But at this point I’m just happy another song actually met the criteria for this round. Spoiler @EriKills @Touch It @boys @Staryu @Mr. Duff@Sabbath @PinkBox @Noah @Dessy@kiiwii @thecptz @Not Like The Movies @touya kinomoto @Alena @Legend E @K$Ellie
thecptz Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 omg thanks shelven alicia and miss kacey slaying together!
K$Ellie Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) Butterfly is about following your dreams and believing in yourself x the video itself has a message too Edited March 8, 2020 by K$Ellie
Staryu Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 The Night is Still Young message is about living your life to the fullest while you can and not taking it for granted x
genio Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 Spoiler Kacey: Yes she's a country artist but this was a bit too hillbillyish for my own liking. It did get the message across, though..which is what matters. Ariana: A staple for sure. All around a very positive and great banger. Yeah it has aged a bit maybe but it does it's job. Celine: a classic. Celine giving us hope in love and telling us there's no easy way out, we just HAVE to STAN yap. Rihanna: I was a little bored with this track, but even if it's not my favorite track, it does fulfil this rounds criteria and delivers a great message. Katy: this song has always been a mess to me but I do get that it's a very uplifting song. Lorde: this triggered my anxiety and depression a bit more what were you thinking sis Nicki: a cute positive song that brings light into your life and is all about having fun and living in the moment. HyunA: this is a whole BANGER ma'am. After translating the lyrics, I would've never thought this made an important message like this as well. Very great pick. Alicia: the song itself is a bit meh but it definitely fits the criteria. Very uplifting for sure. Janelle: a very important message, especially for young black girls. LOVED this pick. Fantasia: Fantasia saying it like it is...everyone mind ya own business and **** the haters. Fulfils the criteria and is a bop on top of that. Marina: I can only speak for myself and I definitely get why you would pick this song. It does send a great message out there...the lyrics are very important and need to be listened to/taken care of, especially for women in this industry. Demi: YAP...wanna make you BOSS around and just be ****ing CONFIDENT man. Always loved this confidence booster and the message behind it. Loona: it's harder for you guys with k-pop acts to find a song with an important, uplifting message behind it. I didn't perceive this song as one with a great message, but it was a bop after all. Ellie: so like the Nicki song, this is all about living in the moment and enjoying yourself. Very good song with a cute, albeit not the strongest message. It fits the criteria and I'm bopping, so that's all that matters. Kelly: Miss Clarkson has some SOUL in her but wbk. Like the Janelle song, a very important message for women all around the world. I really enjoyed this song as well. Spoiler @EriKills @Touch It @boys @Staryu @Mr. Duff@Sabbath @PinkBox @Noah @Dessy@kiiwii @thecptz @Not Like The Movies @touya kinomoto @Alena @Legend E @K$Ellie well my break didn't last long :bebe:
thecptz Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 well thanks for that and i mean she's a country artist, what more do you want
Mr. Duff Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 I don't get the "dated" comments. Are we supposed to submit only songs from their newest albums? I mean of course songs released in 1990s or early 2000s will sound dated to this day, but that's not the point of the round. I am not complaining, just airing my two cents
PinkBox Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr. Duff said: I don't get the "dated" comments. Are we supposed to submit only songs from their newest albums? I mean of course songs released in 1990s or early 2000s will sound dated to this day, but that's not the point of the round. I am not complaining, just airing my two cents some points were made :kii2poor:
K$Ellie Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mr. Duff said: I don't get the "dated" comments. Are we supposed to submit only songs from their newest albums? I mean of course songs released in 1990s or early 2000s will sound dated to this day, but that's not the point of the round. I am not complaining, just airing my two cents isn't the song from 2015 I guess it's also about the quality not just how well it fits the theme
Mr. Duff Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 34 minutes ago, K$Ellie said: isn't the song from 2015 I guess it's also about the quality not just how well it fits the theme I'm not just talking about my song. I just noticed that a lot of comments pertain to the songs being "dated" like, first it's not the point of the round, and second, being dated does not mean the quality is inferior. It's just so strange to judge songs as "dated" which in context is negative. The objectivity of the round is diminished because of it. Still, as I said this is only my opinion, I do hope the judges take it into consideration.
Overprotected Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 Almost everything Pinkbox has sent for Celine sounded dated and very 90's and yet she has placed high in most rounds. I guess when judges bring up the dated aspect of a song is because it's also a sound they don't enjoy or the quality is poor And I think the quality of the song should still matter in only a bit for the scores, thots? @luckystrike
Overprotected Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 Spoiler Kacey Musgraves: Um chile the yee haw. Anyways this is a very cute song, a simple message with straightforward lyrics perhaps a bit cheesy but I am moved quite a bit by Miss Kacey, yes I am. Ariana Grande: I don't think so luv. That some gays claimed this as some sort of anthem is a fact unrelated to what it’s really about which is just a basic break up song. Is it positive? Well yes but I think it was clear this round asked for songs where the narrator is trying to uplift or move the listener. Celine Dion: Lovely, lichrally what I expected from this round. Rihanna: Um no wonder this sing flopped, so boring and repetitive. It does however carry a political statement. I just feel like whether it’s positive or not is not made very clear especially in the chorus. Katy Perry: Yes I agree, Brave is a perfect example of a song fitting for this round. Lorde: I hope you send Homemade Dynamite live from the VMAs for the kiis :kii2poor: Nicki Minaj: Um I guess she is making a party statement and well it is positive. I kinda have the same problem with this as with Ariana’s song but this is saved by the lyrics in the chorus, not that they’re good or anything but it makes it sound more like a motivational positive anthem. Hyuna: Girl :tellha: this is a bit of a bop but outside that one verse where she talks about judgements or whatever (translation found on azlyrics) there is not much of a statement made here. Alicia Keys: Good job! Bringing back a mafia member to life on mafia dummy Janelle Monae: She went off Fantasia: Ok werk and uplifting song that is also a bit of a banger, love it. MARINA: I mean she is being negative about the state of society and the industry but in a way it’s still as much of a positive message as some of the other entries so good job I like the song. Demi Lovato: Pretty straightforward I don’t know what to say other than it fits! LOONA: “dreams may come true” is not much of a statement is it. Still a positive cute song so not a bad entry overall. Ellie Goulding: White anthem. Kelly Clarkson: She went off (2)
Alena Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 At first Hyuna's How's This may just seem like a party song but it's soooo much more. In the song Hyuna sings about not wanting to fit in with today's 'standards' and just wants to be free and exactly how she is. She's always been like this and she's got nothing to hide x Hyuna is just the way the she is and you can be too! Listen to the queen ♥ Don’t try to fit me inside useless judgements, it’s not fun Don’t trap me in your gross standards, it’s not interesting I have nothing to hide I have nothing more to avoid I don’t think about anything else This moment right now is what’s important Please stop telling me what to do I’ve always been like this You’re, you’re, you’re, you’re no fun Don’t stop yourself inside complicated calculations Imma do it like this Having the same feeling? It’s so suffocating There’s no meaning They’re just dancing without any feeling There is no feel Full translated lyrics: https://lyricstranslate.com/en/hows-hows.html ♥ anyways these are the correct translated lyrics @ judges
luckystrike Posted March 9, 2020 Author Posted March 9, 2020 18 hours ago, Astronomy said: So, my days of being the nicest judge have ended. If you feel personally insulted, please contact 1-800-Its-Just-An-ATRL-Game, they'll kindly inform you that you might need therapy for taking a game's critiques so personal. If you don't like me after this, I can't say I'm inclined to care, if you want me removed from this game because you don't like my critiques, send better entries or contact my lawyer, thecptz at 1-800-Baby-Z-Law-Firm. Thanks. - Astro Actual Critiques BELOW: Reveal hidden contents Kacey Musgraves – Okay, starting this round off with a yeehaw song is not the tea, and I can’t handle country music for more than 2 minutes, so thankfully, I already know this song. It meets the criteria – albeit, Kacey always sounded bored pre-Golden Hour and the production is much too yeehaw for me to like whatsoever, but anyway, it meets the criteria. I also like the *****-ible person line, kiiii. Ariana Grande – God, this sounds so dated, even by today’s standards. Granted, Zedd is a dated producer so I guess it makes sense. And don’t even get me started on the lyrics that don’t make sense part. Now that I’ve become who I really are. Like okay, Max Martin, father of pop music – we get it, are rhymes with heart, but this is annoying. Aside from my issues with the song, it has a positive message and is what, an LGBT+ staple now? Fabulous. Also, Ariana has an amazing voice, so the really only redeeming part of this song, kii. Celine Dion – And I thought Ariana’s song was dated. Anyway, she sounds fine, the production is stale, and the lyrics have a positive touch no matter how generic they are. Kind of sounds like it belongs in a suburban white mom’s kitchen along with the “Live, Laugh, Love” poster. You met the criteria, nice. Rihanna – This is, by far, one of Rihanna’s most boring songs to ever exist. It goes absolutely nowhere, and even she sounds BORED singing it. I can understand how this could be a positive message type song, but I just… She sounds so bored that I can’t take it seriously as one. Katy Perry – Good ****ing god, I can’t listen to this Brave rip-off in full. The production is so dated and bad that it’s such a drag to listen to. Regardless, the lyrics are the very definition of a positive song so you knocked that out the park. But here’s to hoping that after this, I don’t hear this song for a decade. Cheers. Lorde – This is, by NO MEANS, a positive song. I don’t know what made you think this was, but this song is so dark, grim and depressing that it makes me wonder how it was even accepted, I-. I know Lorde is a depressing person in general, but a majority of Melodrama has more of a positive spin than this song. Even Yellow Flicker Beat does. Nicki Minaj – See, this song, as dated as it lowkey is, happens to actually have a positive message. It’s always felt uber depressing to me production-wise and I’m not sure why, but it definitely has what the criteria was looking for. Maybe Luke made points when producing this song, but Nicki knew how to throw a positive message into a Rap/Pop song. HyunA – Reading the translation of this song is like… Reading the most generic shite I’ve read in a long while. It doesn’t really strike me as a positive message, but that’s my own interpretation. To others, I think it would have one. Also, this beat is Mustard-Lite so it has that redeeming factor. It’s decent. Alicia Keys – Oh this is from her new album? Word? Cute. Alicia’s usually hit and miss with me since like In Common, but this was really nice. It’s a little basic production-wise, but I like the overall feel of the song and that it’s lyrics are pretty uplifting, talking about rising up. Plus, her voice is always nice to listen to. Janelle Monae – You know what I love? Female power. And that’s what this song is. This, while not really seeming like it, is actually very uplifting. It’s about uplifting women and disregarding men. Power to the women. Power to BLACK GIRL MAGIC! Okay, my favorite entry this round, soz. Fantasia – Move out of the way you basic bitches with stale ass lyrics, this is how you DO IT. I didn’t know what to expect going into this, but I really really like these lyrics. NO TIME FOR IT. NONE. NO bull****. **** IT. NO TIME FOR IT!!!! WORD. SHE SPILLED. SHE MADE EVERY ****ING POINT! Marina – This has never, ever been a positive song to me. Like, she’s criticizing the **** out of pop culture, the media, society, Hollywood and so on. Marina is a very, VERY satirical and very self-deprecating, so I understand it’s hard to find one in her discography, but this was not even slightly positive. I mean, if I close one ear, squint an eye while looking at the lyrics, maybe just maybe some of this could be spun positively, but I just hear pure negativity. I’m just gonna… Yeah. Demi Lovato – This song is so… Dated, but still catchy and kind of a kii. I like how bitch is thrown in randomly in the first verse, but I will say this meets the criteria perfectly (which apparently is very hard for some of you this round). Confident, albeit super generic, is the perfect dose of positivity in a song. Which, Demi being Demi, this is probably a highlight from her discography. So not bad. LOONA – Off-handed compliment, this is such a nice production, we-. Anyway, lyrically, it is a positive perspective on love so points from me for that since everyone is having issues with it. You know, I do actually like this song, kii. Not bad. Ellie Goulding – So, PinkBox asked this earlier, and I’d like to know. What is the fire and why are they letting it burn? Kii. Anyway, she’s definitely talking about some positive shite in them that will light up like the stars of the human race or whatever. While I don’t fully understand what the metaphors in this song are and the production is super basic, this is exactly what Lucky asked for. Kelly Clarkson – This song is still such a hoot to listen to. Not because of Kelly, but because it will always remind me of the legend below: Anyway, serious note now, this is a nice take on this round. Body Positivity, we have to stan. Especially as someone who is a whole lotta ******. Anyway, not bad. in case y’all missed them cause these terrible judges don’t tag people Spoiler @EriKills @Touch It @boys @Staryu @Mr. Duff@Sabbath @PinkBox @Noah @Dessy@kiiwii @thecptz @Not Like The Movies @touya kinomoto @Alena @Legend E @K$Ellie
luckystrike Posted March 9, 2020 Author Posted March 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Overprotected said: Reveal hidden contents Kacey Musgraves: Um chile the yee haw. Anyways this is a very cute song, a simple message with straightforward lyrics perhaps a bit cheesy but I am moved quite a bit by Miss Kacey, yes I am. Ariana Grande: I don't think so luv. That some gays claimed this as some sort of anthem is a fact unrelated to what it’s really about which is just a basic break up song. Is it positive? Well yes but I think it was clear this round asked for songs where the narrator is trying to uplift or move the listener. Celine Dion: Lovely, lichrally what I expected from this round. Rihanna: Um no wonder this sing flopped, so boring and repetitive. It does however carry a political statement. I just feel like whether it’s positive or not is not made very clear especially in the chorus. Katy Perry: Yes I agree, Brave is a perfect example of a song fitting for this round. Lorde: I hope you send Homemade Dynamite live from the VMAs for the kiis :kii2poor: Nicki Minaj: Um I guess she is making a party statement and well it is positive. I kinda have the same problem with this as with Ariana’s song but this is saved by the lyrics in the chorus, not that they’re good or anything but it makes it sound more like a motivational positive anthem. Hyuna: Girl :tellha: this is a bit of a bop but outside that one verse where she talks about judgements or whatever (translation found on azlyrics) there is not much of a statement made here. Alicia Keys: Good job! Bringing back a mafia member to life on mafia dummy Janelle Monae: She went off Fantasia: Ok werk and uplifting song that is also a bit of a banger, love it. MARINA: I mean she is being negative about the state of society and the industry but in a way it’s still as much of a positive message as some of the other entries so good job I like the song. Demi Lovato: Pretty straightforward I don’t know what to say other than it fits! LOONA: “dreams may come true” is not much of a statement is it. Still a positive cute song so not a bad entry overall. Ellie Goulding: White anthem. Kelly Clarkson: She went off (2) [2] Spoiler @EriKills @Touch It @boys @Staryu @Mr. Duff@Sabbath @PinkBox @Noah @Dessy@kiiwii @thecptz @Not Like The Movies @touya kinomoto @Alena @Legend E @K$Ellie
K$Ellie Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 "white anthem" Quote The verse, “Will you whisper to me?” isn’t necessarily directed towards a person, it may be directed towards their dreams and goals. It shows how they want their ambition to keep ‘whispering’ to them, and how they never want to stop and keep growing. The phrase, “Deja vu,” is literally translated to, “already seen,” so, the phrase, “You’re the deja vu,” delineates how they have seen this vision for themselves before, and it may be hinting on either how it is coming true now, or they feel that their vision is not that far away from becoming true. The rhetorical question, “is it you now?” shows them questioning their future in disbelief as if saying, ‘is it really true?’ or, ‘is this really how my future will be?’ Y'all should take the video into account too bc they genuinely made a statement with it but shelven already dragged so x Quote The MV is particularly notable for featuring footage of women from “5 countries from 5 continents for LOOΠΔ’s Butterfly effects” in order to “capture the freedom and courage of girl [sic] worldwide in the music video of ‘Butterfly.’” LOONA previously mentioned that the concepts behind their comeback had never been attempted before, and the celebration of diversity and inclusion in “Butterfly”’s MV at this scale has, in fact, set them apart from other K-Pop acts. The music video features a number of individuals rarely (if ever) given visibility in the market, including a Chinese-American model with albinism and a woman in hijab.
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