pavi Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 So impressive Thanks for making this list, it was great to follow
Mr. Duff Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 Diane Warren What a legend. 10k points just for Because You Loved Me and Unbreak my Heart
Michael196 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 thank you so much for such an amazing thread!! i really appreciate all the hard work you put into this project!! it's been amazing following this since the early beginning and speculating where some people ended up!! this needs more recognition inside and outside the stan world. thank you again!!!
BnPac Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 Thanks @Ash12345 for the hard work. Great thread!!! Glad to see a woman on top.
Brando Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 That was a lot of work Max Martin's catalogue and stats are the most impressive.
Brando Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 But also the list is unfairly biased towards songs from 90s onwards when massive hits started spending ridiculous amount of time both at #1 and on the chart. Megahits of that era have 6k+ points, where's megahits from eras before the 90s have 1/2k points at best.
Ash12345 Posted June 4, 2020 Author Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Brando said: But also the list is unfairly biased towards songs from 90s onwards when massive hits started spending ridiculous amount of time both at #1 and on the chart. Megahits of that era have 6k+ points, where's megahits from eras before the 90s have 1/2k points at best. Kind of, but it ends up balancing out because earlier decades had a larger number of moderate hits. For example, you actually had quite a lot of songs from those earlier decades with 4k+ points thanks to covers, and the covers were often released and charting within just a few years of the original. These days you generally just get some covers from Glee and singing competition with very minimal chart impact. Having more moderate hits also meant that artists in their prime could get a dozen decent sized singles (charting for 10+ weeks) within a couple years, whereas now it's usually just half a dozen hit singles plus a lot of album bomb songs with minimal chart impact. It also meant that artists that are less trendy, either because they're before or past their peak, or songwriters writing for other artists which have lesser name recognition can get a greater number of moderate hits. These days you also tend to have a lot more songwriters splitting the credits too. In the 50s-80s it was usually just the 1-3 people that wrote the majority of the lyrics and melodies. I think the number of people who do that today is still primarily 1-3 per song, but the producers/beat-makers and singers that change a few words are more likely to get credited. Here are the points for the 200th biggest song of each year by year of peak 1960: 548 1965: 543 1970: 536 1975: 545 1980: 504 1985: 589 1990: 554 1995: 373 2000: 392 2005: 373 2010: 315 2015: 270 And the points for the 10th biggest of each year 1960: 2339 1965: 1753 1970: 2118 1975: 1937 1980: 2708 1985: 2169 1990: 2219 1995: 3432 2000: 4088 2005: 3838 2010: 3693 2015: 4373
Brando Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ash12345 said: Kind of, but it ends up balancing out because earlier decades had a larger number of moderate hits. For example, you actually had quite a lot of songs from those earlier decades with 4k+ points thanks to covers, and the covers were often released and charting within just a few years of the original. These days you generally just get some covers from Glee and singing competition with very minimal chart impact. Having more moderate hits also meant that artists in their prime could get a dozen decent sized singles (charting for 10+ weeks) within a couple years, whereas now it's usually just half a dozen hit singles plus a lot of album bomb songs with minimal chart impact. It also meant that artists that are less trendy, either because they're before or past their peak, or songwriters writing for other artists which have lesser name recognition can get a greater number of moderate hits. These days you also tend to have a lot more songwriters splitting the credits too. In the 50s-80s it was usually just the 1-3 people that wrote the majority of the lyrics and melodies. I think the number of people who do that today is still primarily 1-3 per song, but the producers/beat-makers and singers that change a few words are more likely to get credited. Here are the points for the 200th biggest song of each year by year of peak 1960: 548 1965: 543 1970: 536 1975: 545 1980: 504 1985: 589 1990: 554 1995: 373 2000: 392 2005: 373 2010: 315 2015: 270 And the points for the 10th biggest of each year 1960: 2339 1965: 1753 1970: 2118 1975: 1937 1980: 2708 1985: 2169 1990: 2219 1995: 3432 2000: 4088 2005: 3838 2010: 3693 2015: 4373 Fair points, though I just checked how many points Paul got for Yesterday and it's less than 1k overall even though it's one of the biggest songs of all time and also the most covered songs of all time.
Ash12345 Posted June 4, 2020 Author Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Brando said: Fair points, though I just checked how many points Paul got for Yesterday and it's less than 1k overall even though it's one of the biggest songs of all time and also the most covered songs of all time. Yesterday had over 2k points allocated to it when you include the covers but they got split between him and Lennon. Here's the top 30 songwriters sorted accorded to the approximate mid-point of their careers as hit songwriters, so as you can see there's still significantly more songwriters from the 60s, 70s and 80s decades than the 00s and 10s decades. 1965: Carole King 1967: Hal David 1967: John Lennon 1967: Paul McCartney 1968: Burt Bacharach 1969: Smokey Robinson 1971: Curtis Mayfield 1972: Paul Simon 1973: Neil Diamond 1975: Stevie Wonder 1975: Elton John 1976: Bernie Taupin 1978: Barry Gibb 1983: Lionel Richie 1983: Billy Joel 1984: Sting 1985: Bruce Springsteen 1986: Phil Collins 1987: Michael Jackson 1989: Prince 1993: Diane Warren 1994: Jimmy Jam Harris 1994: Terry Lewis 1994: Babyface 1998: R. Kelly 2003: Pharrell Wiliams 2006: Timbaland 2011: Dr Luke 2013: Max Martin 2014: Taylor Swift
Brando Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Ash12345 said: Yesterday had over 2k points allocated to it when you include the covers but they got split between him and Lennon. Here's the top 30 songwriters sorted accorded to the approximate mid-point of their careers as hit songwriters, so as you can see there's still significantly more songwriters from the 60s, 70s and 80s decades than the 00s and 10s decades. I mean I don't dispute any of your rankings, this was a fantastic list. I was just saying that older megahits are certainly handicapped. 2k points for Yesterday is laughable compared to pretty much every Katy Perry #1.
Ramirodri Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 On 6/3/2020 at 8:45 PM, Ash12345 said: Shakira Points: 4227 Most streamed Hot 100 hits on Spotify 664m - Chantaje (Shakira feat. Maluma) 601m - Hips Don't Lie (Shakira feat. Wyclef Jean) 433m - La Bicicleta (Shakira & Carlos Vives) 315m - Waka Waka This Time For Africa (Shakira feat. Freshlyground) 279m - Me Enamore (Shakira) Table of Points @Pedro this is Shakira's points da best.
Ash12345 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Posted June 5, 2020 Ariana Grande Points: 4548 Most streamed Hot 100 hits on Spotify 1161m - 7 rings (Ariana Grande) 1103m - thank u, next (Ariana Grande) 934m - Side To Side (Ariana Grande feat. Nicki Minaj) 865m - no tears left to cry (Ariana Grande) 782m - Into You (Ariana Grande) Table of Points @Mr. Venti
Mr. Venti Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Ash12345 said: Ariana Grande Points: 4548 Most streamed Hot 100 hits on Spotify 1161m - 7 rings (Ariana Grande) 1103m - thank u, next (Ariana Grande) 934m - Side To Side (Ariana Grande feat. Nicki Minaj) 865m - no tears left to cry (Ariana Grande) 782m - Into You (Ariana Grande) Table of Points @Mr. Venti thank you
Ash12345 Posted June 6, 2020 Author Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) On 6/4/2020 at 4:04 PM, Brando said: I mean I don't dispute any of your rankings, this was a fantastic list. I was just saying that older megahits are certainly handicapped. 2k points for Yesterday is laughable compared to pretty much every Katy Perry #1. Just checked how many songs Paul McCartney, Babyface and Taylor had in the top 100 songs of each year. Paul McCartney: 55 songs (avg rank of 38.55) Babyface: 54 songs (avg rank of 47.85) Taylor Swift: 29 songs (avg rank of 45.17) Babyface has slightly fewer co-writers than Paul McCartney on average, and Taylor Swift has slightly more, but overall they still have a similar amount (slightly less than 1 co-writer per song on average). Top 10 songs Paul McCartney #1 of 1968 - Hey Jude #1 of 1964 - I Want To Hold Your Hand #3 of 1983 - Say Say Say #3 of 1964 - She Loves You #4 of 1964 - Twist and Shout #4 of 1973 - My Love #4 of 1976 - Silly Love Songs #8 of 1982 - Ebony & Ivory #8 of 1966 - We Can Work It Out #8 of 1965 - Help! Babyface #1 of 1992 - End of the Road #1 of 1994 - I'll Make Love To You #1 of 2005 - We Belong Together #4 of 1996 - You're Making Me High #5 of 1992 - Baby-Baby-Baby #6 of 1995 - Take A Bow #9 of 1994 - Breathe Again #13 of 1994 - When Can I See You #16 of 1995 - Water Runs Dry #17 of 1995 - Exhale (Shoop Shoop) Taylor Swift #4 of 2009 - You Belong With me #6 of 2009 - Love Story #6 of 2014 - Shake It Off #10 of 2014 - Blank Space #14 of 2016 - This Is What You Came For #16 of 2013 - I Knew You Were Trouble #20 of 2012 - We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together #21 of 2015 - Bad Blood #21 of 2008 - Teardrops On My Guitar #26 of 2015 - Style Edited June 6, 2020 by Ash12345
Ash12345 Posted June 12, 2020 Author Posted June 12, 2020 On 5/31/2020 at 9:23 AM, kingslanding33 said: May I post your article on other website? I'll make sure to cite the source. If you posted it can you send me the link? By the way, I updated Chad Hugo's stats. I missed a song he had a songwriting credit on which just barely bumps him into the top 100.
Ash12345 Posted June 13, 2020 Author Posted June 13, 2020 Just finished updating my playlist with 5 songs from each songwriter. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4PJbiqgxa1Pq25XNKunj30?si=32HBEax7QaC5pd-ki3-xNg
Ash12345 Posted June 19, 2020 Author Posted June 19, 2020 7 hours ago, abrahamjmr said: Where's Eminem? A lot of his early songs didn't chart that well even though they helped him sell a tonne of albums and have amazing recurrent streams (plus co-writers due to samples, producers and features). If he keeps on having album bombs he might break into the top 100 soon though.
idkwiam Posted July 1, 2020 Posted July 1, 2020 @Ash12345 Thanks for this amazing thread. This is the best thread ever made on ATRL. This proves how Taylor can already be considered a LEGEND.
Ash12345 Posted July 12, 2020 Author Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) Honorable Mention - Johnta Austin Points: 10,133 Most streamed Hot 100 hits on Spotify 246m - We Belong Together (Mariah Carey) 211m - With You (Chris Brown) 154m - Yo Excuse Me Miss (Chris Brown) 91m - Be Without You (Mary J. Blige) 66m - Shortie Like Mine (Bow Wow feat. Chris Brown and Johnta Austin) Table of Points Edited July 12, 2020 by Ash12345
Ash12345 Posted July 12, 2020 Author Posted July 12, 2020 Honorable Mention - Linda McCartney Points: 10,663 Most streamed Hot 100 hits on Spotify 151m - Live And Let Die (Guns N' Roses) 104m - Band On The Run (Wings) 34m - Silly Love Songs (Wings) 21m - Jet (Wings) 18m - Let 'Em In (Wings) Table of Points Edited just now by Ash12345
Ash12345 Posted April 9, 2022 Author Posted April 9, 2022 The amount of time it's gonna take to save and repost all of this.
eli's_rhythm Posted April 9, 2022 Posted April 9, 2022 I don’t understand how Janet is so low when she’s top 10 on the BB all time chart and has credits on almost all of her singles.
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