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Thanks for all your hard work on this! 

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So impressive:clap3:

Thanks for making this list, it was great to follow

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less than 10% of the top 40 are women, hmm

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Diane Warren :worship2:

 

What a legend. 10k points just for Because You Loved Me and Unbreak my Heart :clap3: 

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thank you so much for such an amazing thread!!

i really appreciate all the hard work you put into this project!!

it's been amazing following this since the early beginning and speculating where some people ended up!!

this needs more recognition inside and outside the stan world.

thank you again!!!:heart2:

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Thanks @Ash12345 for the hard work. Great thread!!!

Glad to see a woman on top. :clap3:

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That was a lot of work :jonny:

 

Max Martin's catalogue and stats are the most impressive. 

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But also the list is unfairly biased towards songs from 90s onwards when massive hits  started spending ridiculous amount of time both at #1 and on the chart. Megahits of that era have 6k+ points, where's megahits from eras before the 90s have 1/2k points at best. 

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1 hour ago, Brando said:

But also the list is unfairly biased towards songs from 90s onwards when massive hits  started spending ridiculous amount of time both at #1 and on the chart. Megahits of that era have 6k+ points, where's megahits from eras before the 90s have 1/2k points at best. 

Kind of, but it ends up balancing out because earlier decades had a larger number of moderate hits. For example, you actually had quite a lot of songs from those earlier decades with 4k+ points thanks to covers, and the covers were often released and charting within just a few years of the original. These days you generally just get some covers from Glee and singing competition with very minimal chart impact.

 

Having more moderate hits also meant that artists in their prime could get a dozen decent sized singles (charting for 10+ weeks) within a couple years, whereas now it's usually just half a dozen hit singles plus a lot of album bomb songs with minimal chart impact. It also meant that artists that are less trendy, either because they're before or past their peak, or songwriters writing for other artists which have lesser name recognition can get a greater number of moderate hits.

 

These days you also tend to have a lot more songwriters splitting the credits too. In the 50s-80s it was usually just the 1-3 people that wrote the majority of the lyrics and melodies. I think the number of people who do that today is still primarily 1-3 per song, but the producers/beat-makers and singers that change a few words are more likely to get credited.

 

Here are the points for the 200th biggest song of each year by year of peak

1960: 548

1965: 543

1970: 536

1975: 545

1980: 504

1985: 589

1990: 554

1995: 373

2000: 392

2005: 373

2010: 315

2015: 270

 

And the points for the 10th biggest of each year

1960: 2339

1965: 1753

1970: 2118

1975: 1937

1980: 2708

1985: 2169

1990: 2219

1995: 3432

2000: 4088

2005: 3838

2010: 3693

2015: 4373

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15 minutes ago, Ash12345 said:

Kind of, but it ends up balancing out because earlier decades had a larger number of moderate hits. For example, you actually had quite a lot of songs from those earlier decades with 4k+ points thanks to covers, and the covers were often released and charting within just a few years of the original. These days you generally just get some covers from Glee and singing competition with very minimal chart impact.

 

Having more moderate hits also meant that artists in their prime could get a dozen decent sized singles (charting for 10+ weeks) within a couple years, whereas now it's usually just half a dozen hit singles plus a lot of album bomb songs with minimal chart impact. It also meant that artists that are less trendy, either because they're before or past their peak, or songwriters writing for other artists which have lesser name recognition can get a greater number of moderate hits.

 

These days you also tend to have a lot more songwriters splitting the credits too. In the 50s-80s it was usually just the 1-3 people that wrote the majority of the lyrics and melodies. I think the number of people who do that today is still primarily 1-3 per song, but the producers/beat-makers and singers that change a few words are more likely to get credited.

 

Here are the points for the 200th biggest song of each year by year of peak

1960: 548

1965: 543

1970: 536

1975: 545

1980: 504

1985: 589

1990: 554

1995: 373

2000: 392

2005: 373

2010: 315

2015: 270

 

And the points for the 10th biggest of each year

1960: 2339

1965: 1753

1970: 2118

1975: 1937

1980: 2708

1985: 2169

1990: 2219

1995: 3432

2000: 4088

2005: 3838

2010: 3693

2015: 4373

Fair points, though I just checked how many points Paul got for Yesterday and it's less than 1k overall even though it's one of the biggest songs of all time and also the most covered songs of all time. 

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1 hour ago, Brando said:

Fair points, though I just checked how many points Paul got for Yesterday and it's less than 1k overall even though it's one of the biggest songs of all time and also the most covered songs of all time. 

Yesterday had over 2k points allocated to it when you include the covers but they got split between him and Lennon.

 

Here's the top 30 songwriters sorted accorded to the approximate mid-point of their careers as hit songwriters, so as you can see there's still significantly more songwriters from the 60s, 70s and 80s decades than the 00s and 10s decades.

 

1965: Carole King

1967: Hal David

1967: John Lennon

1967: Paul McCartney

1968: Burt Bacharach

1969: Smokey Robinson

1971: Curtis Mayfield

1972: Paul Simon

1973: Neil Diamond

1975: Stevie Wonder

1975: Elton John

1976: Bernie Taupin

1978: Barry Gibb

1983: Lionel Richie

1983: Billy Joel

1984: Sting

1985: Bruce Springsteen

1986: Phil Collins

1987: Michael Jackson

1989: Prince

1993: Diane Warren

1994: Jimmy Jam Harris

1994: Terry Lewis

1994: Babyface

1998: R. Kelly

2003: Pharrell Wiliams

2006: Timbaland

2011: Dr Luke

2013: Max Martin

2014: Taylor Swift

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1 hour ago, Ash12345 said:

Yesterday had over 2k points allocated to it when you include the covers but they got split between him and Lennon.

 

Here's the top 30 songwriters sorted accorded to the approximate mid-point of their careers as hit songwriters, so as you can see there's still significantly more songwriters from the 60s, 70s and 80s decades than the 00s and 10s decades.

 

I mean I don't dispute any of your rankings, this was a fantastic list. I was just saying that older megahits are certainly handicapped. 2k points for Yesterday is laughable compared to pretty much every Katy Perry #1. 

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On 6/3/2020 at 8:45 PM, Ash12345 said:

Shakira

Points: 4227

 

You Can Copy One Of Shakira's Super Bowl Looks

 

Most streamed Hot 100 hits on Spotify

 

664m - Chantaje (Shakira feat. Maluma)

601m - Hips Don't Lie (Shakira feat. Wyclef Jean)

433m - La Bicicleta (Shakira & Carlos Vives)

315m - Waka Waka This Time For Africa (Shakira feat. Freshlyground)

279m - Me Enamore (Shakira)

 

 

Table of Points

 

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@Pedro this is Shakira's points

da best.

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Ariana Grande

Points: 4548

 

Ariana Grande Urges Media to Cover 'Peaceful Protesting' After ...

 

Most streamed Hot 100 hits on Spotify

 

1161m - 7 rings (Ariana Grande)

1103m - thank u, next (Ariana Grande)

934m - Side To Side (Ariana Grande feat. Nicki Minaj)

865m - no tears left to cry (Ariana Grande)

782m - Into You (Ariana Grande)

 

 

Table of Points

 

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@Mr. Venti

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5 hours ago, Ash12345 said:

Ariana Grande

Points: 4548

 

Ariana Grande Urges Media to Cover 'Peaceful Protesting' After ...

 

Most streamed Hot 100 hits on Spotify

 

1161m - 7 rings (Ariana Grande)

1103m - thank u, next (Ariana Grande)

934m - Side To Side (Ariana Grande feat. Nicki Minaj)

865m - no tears left to cry (Ariana Grande)

782m - Into You (Ariana Grande)

 

 

Table of Points

 

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@Mr. Venti

thank you

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On 6/4/2020 at 4:04 PM, Brando said:

I mean I don't dispute any of your rankings, this was a fantastic list. I was just saying that older megahits are certainly handicapped. 2k points for Yesterday is laughable compared to pretty much every Katy Perry #1. 

Just checked how many songs Paul McCartney, Babyface and Taylor had in the top 100 songs of each year.

 

Paul McCartney: 55 songs (avg rank of 38.55)

Babyface: 54 songs (avg rank of 47.85)

Taylor Swift: 29 songs (avg rank of 45.17)

 

Babyface has slightly fewer co-writers than Paul McCartney on average, and Taylor Swift has slightly more, but overall they still have a similar amount (slightly less than 1 co-writer per song on average).

 

Top 10 songs

 

Paul McCartney

#1 of 1968 - Hey Jude

#1 of 1964 - I Want To Hold Your Hand

#3 of 1983 - Say Say Say

#3 of 1964 - She Loves You

#4 of 1964 - Twist and Shout

#4 of 1973 - My Love

#4 of 1976 - Silly Love Songs

#8 of 1982 - Ebony & Ivory

#8 of 1966 - We Can Work It Out

#8 of 1965 - Help!

 

Babyface

#1 of 1992 - End of the Road

#1 of 1994 - I'll Make Love To You

#1 of 2005 - We Belong Together

#4 of 1996 - You're Making Me High

#5 of 1992 - Baby-Baby-Baby

#6 of 1995 - Take A Bow

#9 of 1994 - Breathe Again

#13 of 1994 - When Can I See You

#16 of 1995 - Water Runs Dry

#17 of 1995 - Exhale (Shoop Shoop)

 

Taylor Swift

#4 of 2009 - You Belong With me

#6 of 2009 - Love Story

#6 of 2014 - Shake It Off

#10 of 2014 - Blank Space

#14 of 2016 - This Is What You Came For

#16 of 2013 - I Knew You Were Trouble

#20 of 2012 - We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together

#21 of 2015 - Bad Blood

#21 of 2008 - Teardrops On My Guitar

#26 of 2015 - Style

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On 5/31/2020 at 9:23 AM, kingslanding33 said:

May I post your article on other website? I'll make sure to cite the source.

If you posted it can you send me the link?

 

By the way, I updated Chad Hugo's stats. I missed a song he had a songwriting credit on which just barely bumps him into the top 100.

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Where's Eminem? :huh:

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7 hours ago, abrahamjmr said:

Where's Eminem? :huh:

A lot of his early songs didn't chart that well even though they helped him sell a tonne of albums and have amazing recurrent streams (plus co-writers due to samples, producers and features). If he keeps on having album bombs he might break into the top 100 soon though.

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@Ash12345 Thanks for this  amazing thread. This is the best thread ever made on ATRL.

This proves how Taylor can already be considered a LEGEND.

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Honorable Mention - Johnta Austin

Points: 10,133

 

Johnta Austin - What A Feeling (Final Version) Feat. Jermaine Dupri

 

Most streamed Hot 100 hits on Spotify

 

246m - We Belong Together (Mariah Carey)

211m - With You (Chris Brown)

154m - Yo Excuse Me Miss (Chris Brown)

91m - Be Without You (Mary J. Blige)

66m - Shortie Like Mine (Bow Wow feat. Chris Brown and Johnta Austin)

 

 

Table of Points

 

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Honorable Mention - Linda McCartney

Points: 10,663

 

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Most streamed Hot 100 hits on Spotify

 

151m - Live And Let Die (Guns N' Roses)

104m - Band On The Run (Wings)

34m - Silly Love Songs (Wings)

21m - Jet (Wings)

18m - Let 'Em In (Wings)

 

 

Table of Points

 

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The amount of time it's gonna take to save and repost all of this. :rip:

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I don’t understand how Janet is so low when she’s top 10 on the BB all time chart and has credits on almost all of her singles.

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