official chart H100: Truth Hurts #1, You Need To Calm Down #4, Lover #10

[TrieLz]

13 hours ago, taustin13 said:

I know I am super late on this but let me be clear. Taylor's pure sales dropped from 1.2 million to 670,000 from Reputation to Lover ? 

Reputation came after 1989 era her biggest peak on her career. Plus LWYMMD was a #1 hit for 3 weeks, that factor makes a huge number for Reputation first week sales.

 

same like BTW by Gaga having big numbers after TFM era (her peak), Adele - 25 having a gigantic numbers after 21 era (her peak), Oops by Britney after BOMT era (her peak)

 

[grAntVRIL]

21 hours ago, bbbrndn said:

11. ME! (feat. Brendon Urie of Panic! At the Disco!)
23. The Man
28. I Forgot That You Existed
29. Cruel Summer
38. The Archer
45. Paper Rings
49. Miss Americana & The Heartbreak Prince
51. I Think He Knows
57. Cornelia Street
62. London Boy
63. Soon You’ll Get Better (feat. Dixie Chicks)
67. Death By A Thousand Cuts
75. Afterglow
77. False God
89. Daylight
92. It’s Nice to Have A Friend

queen

[FAN]

4 hours ago, Meev said:

I think the consensus is no, Truth Hurts will remain no. 1 next Monday

I think it’s way closer for this current tracking week than last tracking week. @Green @simmnfierzig

[fridayteenage]

4 hours ago, Feanor said:

What were the percentages for 1989 and rep?

already posted them earlier in the thread. but again

 

22 & 29

[marsblyr]

1 hour ago, simmnfierzig said:

That doesnt explain YNTCD (or the archer where I was 30 spots off too) and only were 20k 

And how much CMA were there for them to have 60k sales and still not be on the top 50 digital songs chart. Not like they sold that much before album release or the album sold that much digitally 

What paid to free ratio are you using?

[taustin13]

45 minutes ago, TrieLz said:

Reputation came after 1989 era her biggest peak on her career. Plus LWYMMD was a #1 hit for 3 weeks, that factor makes a huge number for Reputation first week sales.

 

same like BTW by Gaga having big numbers after TFM era (her peak), Adele - 25 having a gigantic numbers after 21 era (her peak), Oops by Britney after BOMT era (her peak)

 

Don't think you can really include the 99 cent album with those others.

[simmnfierzig]

16 minutes ago, marsblyr said:

What paid to free ratio are you using?

The billboard streaming chart is weighted with that too... 

I'm now using 90% for the Lover album, but that makes very little difference if you use 60% or 100%. 

 

The YNTCD, Me! and Archer placements just make no sense

Edited September 4, 2019 by simmnfierzig

[marsblyr]

6 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said:

The billboard streaming chart is weighted with that too... 

I'm now using 90% for the Lover album, but that makes very little if you use 60% or 100%. 

 

The YNTCD, Me! and Archer placements just make no sense

I see, fwiw Lover's on demand audio streams were 95.2% paid if we back calculate using the 226m streams and 175k SEA

[JawBreaker]

1 hour ago, simmnfierzig said:

I am currently putting the numbers together for last week as a starting point for my new predictions... But even with everything from Billboard those 2 placements make absolutely no sense

 

YNTCD is #9 on streaming songs, #12 on radio and somehow #4 on the Hot 100. Billboard says 24.6 million streams for it. That puts it at least 50 points behind #4 for me

Me! is #33 on streaming songs, not top 50 on radio and somehow #11 on the Hot 100. 

 

We don't have digital songs positions for the 2 as they were hit by CMA effect, but wtf??????

I would need to put them at like 60-70k sales each to reach #4 and #11. That doesn't make any sense 

 

1 hour ago, simmnfierzig said:

That doesnt explain YNTCD (or the archer where I was 30 spots off too) and only were 20k 

And how much CMA were there for them to have 60k sales and still not be on the top 50 digital songs chart. Not like they sold that much before album release or the album sold that much digitally 

Tidal streams came through  

 

on top of that she had 95% paid streams

[Jo']

27 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said:

The billboard streaming chart is weighted with that too... 

I'm now using 90% for the Lover album, but that makes very little if you use 60% or 100%. 

  

The YNTCD, Me! and Archer placements just make no sense 

What about the preorders on iTunes and Apple with these three songs included ?

[Badboidami]

2 hours ago, simmnfierzig said:

I am currently putting the numbers together for last week as a starting point for my new predictions... But even with everything from Billboard those 2 placements make absolutely no sense

 

YNTCD is #9 on streaming songs, #12 on radio and somehow #4 on the Hot 100. Billboard says 24.6 million streams for it. That puts it at least 50 points behind #4 for me

Me! is #33 on streaming songs, not top 50 on radio and somehow #11 on the Hot 100. 

 

We don't have digital songs positions for the 2 as they were hit by CMA effect, but wtf??????

I would need to put them at like 60-70k sales each to reach #4 and #11. That doesn't make any sense 

I see fraud.

 

[Squall]

1 hour ago, TrieLz said:

Reputation came after 1989 era her biggest peak on her career. Plus LWYMMD was a #1 hit for 3 weeks, that factor makes a huge number for Reputation first week sales.

 

same like BTW by Gaga having big numbers after TFM era (her peak), Adele - 25 having a gigantic numbers after 21 era (her peak), Oops by Britney after BOMT era (her peak)

 

+ tour boost & November release for Reputation, people need to stop.

[SkinnyGaga]

Maybe the Taylor tracks got high airplay ?? I’m still so confused how’s ME! Got so high... it was amongst the least streamed of the album last week. 

[simmnfierzig]

18 minutes ago, JawBreaker said:

 

Tidal streams came through  

 

on top of that she had 95% paid streams

...

Again. We have Billboards streaming songs chart. That includes tidal, that includes paid / free streams

 

 

10 minutes ago, Jo' said:

What about the preorders on iTunes and Apple with these three songs included ?

Why would they count as sales for those 3 songs this week?

But yeah like I said has to be some weird thing with sales. Just don't really understand from where and it seems like a crazy amount of sales for 2019, but whatever

 

I'll assume they will be gone for next weeks Hot 100

[JawBreaker]

5 minutes ago, SkinnyGaga said:

Maybe the Taylor tracks got high airplay ?? I’m still so confused how’s ME! Got so high... it was amongst the least streamed of the album last week. 

the 20k signed copies were shipped last week 

[iHype.]

Yeah, Me!'s position seems High By the Beach'd 

 

#33 on Streaming Songs

N/A on Radio Songs

#14 on Sales (per Kworb) without Complete My Album

 

= #11 on Hot 100?....

[DELE2125]

58 minutes ago, JawBreaker said:

the 20k signed copies were shipped last week 

If that was the case, then the song would appear in the top 20 Digital Songs, since signed copies cannot be affected by CMA effect  Those positions for Taylor are obviously manipulated.

[marsblyr]

4 minutes ago, DELE2125 said:

If that was the case, then the song would appear in the top 20 Digital Songs, since signed copies cannot be affected by CMA effect  Those positions for Taylor are obviously manipulated.

Signed copies are physical but you want them to appear on the digital songs chart?  If she has that power, why didnt she get the #1 on Hot 100? 

[DELE2125]

Just now, marsblyr said:

Signed copies are physical but you want them to appear on the digital songs chart?  If she has that power, why didnt she get the #1 on Hot 100? 

There is no chart for physical sales.  I guess, they also sent signed copies of YNTCD and The Archer then

[simmnfierzig]

Early predictions

 

1 Truth Hurts       425  (=)

2 Senorita       388 (=)

3 Bad Guy       338  (=)

4 Ransom       322  (+2)

5 Old Town Road       304 (=) 

6 No Guidance       280  (+1)

7 Circles       274  (debut)

8 I Don't Care       250  (+1)

9 Talk       246  (-1)

10 Someone You Loved       227  (+3)

11 You Need To Calm Down       217  (-7)

12 Goodbyes       212  (=)

13 Sucker       199  (+2)

14 Money In The Grave       197  (=)

15 Sunflower       186  (+2)

16 If I Can't Have You       177 (=) 

17 Suge       175  (+1)

18 The Git Up       171 (+1)  

19 Beautiful People       167 (+1)  

20 Boyfriend       155  (+2)

 

21 My Type 152 (=)

24 Lover 139 (-14)

26 Hot Girl Summer 135 (+5)

31 How Do You Sleep? 126 (+5)

38 Cash **** 119 (+4)

39 7 Rings 115 (+4)

47 Motivation 96 (+19)

57 Slide Away 84 (+7)

58 Me! 83 (-47)

60 The Man 81 (-37)

66 Cruel Summer 71 (-37)

74 Hate Me 66 (+6)

81 Paper Rings 57 (-36)

 

 

[Ivan_brit]

Boyfriend, Hot Girl Summer, Slide Away, 7 Rings & Motivation Rising

[JawBreaker]

 flop 

[TalkThatRihanna]

There’s no way Circles isn’t debuting Top 5.

 

MV + #1 Spotify + #2 ITunes + #3 AM + #30 Pop radio

 

Make it make sense

[Navyofbadgals]

Truth Hurts another week atop? Some told me it was a fake hit, what happened

[halcyonday]

The fraud of YNTCD and Me!