charts discussion Old Town Road officially breaks record

[Enoch]

4 hours ago, Green said:

 

The Billboard charts are so slow thanks to streaming. 

 

um no, more like the opposite

 

 

Wow has longevity because it has both streaming AND Post being a radio darling

[B-Luke]

2 hours ago, XXXO said:

#21 Without me - 42 weeks

#27 Happier - 49 weeks

#34 High Hopes - 51 weeks 

#43 Better - 45 weeks

 

Radio makes the chart stagnant

The US is like the only country these 2 still chart in  High Hopes has crazy longevity all over the world though

[QueenofCopyPaste]

Senorita is about to leap over Truth Hurts on radio

 

Bad Guy continues to gain but not by much

 

In a week or 2, Senorita will leap over Bad Guy

 

 

I feel like the VMAS week is its best chance to Top the Hot 100 chart 

 

Truth Hurts may peak at #2/3 unless there's some tactic releases like a remix 

 

[FAN]

1 hour ago, QueenofCopyPaste said:

Senorita is about to leap over Truth Hurts on radio

 

Bad Guy continues to gain but not by much

 

In a week or 2, Senorita will leap over Bad Guy

 

 

I feel like the VMAS week is its best chance to Top the Hot 100 chart 

 

Truth Hurts may peak at #2/3 unless there's some tactic releases like a remix 

 

Will be a tight race. 

 

Senorita about to have the radio advantage and Truth Hurts has the sales advantage although both metrics are incredibly close. Señorita barely beating Truth Hurts on Spotify but killing it on YouTube while Truth Hurts does better on Apple Music. If they both perform at VMAs they’ll probably be the top 2. 

[Green]

According to youtube music insights OTR lost 8.2 millions of streams this week

I wonder if it's a mistake.

 

Chris is #1 with almost 21 million US youtube streams

[Cherry123]

This will get at least 18 weeks OMG

[MusicLoverDude]

2 hours ago, B-Luke said:

The US is like the only country these 2 still chart in  High Hopes has crazy longevity all over the world though

Wrong because Happier and Without Me are still charting in Canada too. 

 

High Hopes just went super recurrent there 

[fridayteenage]

OTR officially #1 on iTunes again

[FAN]

8 minutes ago, fridayteenage said:

OTR officially #1 on iTunes again

That was quick  the song is going to have the longest stay at #1 record and longest stay in the top 10 record

[brianc33710]

7 hours ago, Chemical X. said:

I remember reading that BB is going to weigh songs from the digital era and streaming era differently? I don’t think it was an official announcement, but Gary (I think?) alluded to it on twitter.

 

I think the decade-end chart will be fair... at least as fair as BB can get  

BB has already weighted the songs from 2016 to now. But, BB will have/needs to do so even more. When a chart winds up with so many very new songs ranked so high on the all time chart, then there's a flaw. When songs are almost always setting new records for time in the Top 10, then there's another flaw,

[UNNAMI]

1 hour ago, fridayteenage said:

OTR officially #1 on iTunes again

that basiclly confirms Ariana being blocked

[UNNAMI]

54 minutes ago, FAN said:

That was quick  the song is going to have the longest stay at #1 record and longest stay in the top 10 record

I think it will drop quickly when September will begin, but that still 4 more weeks so it will be like 22 weeks at 1?

[JChart]

I hope they take the decade end chart seriously and put work into balancing the digital/streaming eras right

[Ger]

3 hours ago, Green said:

According to youtube music insights OTR lost 8.2 millions of streams this week

I wonder if it's a mistake.

 

Chris is #1 with almost 21 million US youtube streams

Where do you see this?

[Amethyst]

I see the streaming era songs weight more than the digital era hits is a problem but this isnt new right? 

The digital era songs also are in positions higher than many classics from the 80-90s

[simmnfierzig]

Final predictions

 

1 Old Town Road       469  (=)

2 Bad Guy       393  (=)

3 Senorita       312  (=)

4 Truth Hurts       302  (+1)

5 No Guidance       282  (+6)

6 Talk       281  (-2)

7 I Don't Care       260  (-1)

8 Goodbyes       209  (-1)

9 Sunflower       209  (=)

10 Sucker       201  (-2)

 

11 If I Can't Have You       192  (-1)

12 The Git Up       185  (+2)

13 Suge       184  (-1)

14 Money In The Grave       182  (-1)

15 Ransom       179  (+4)

16 You Need To Calm Down       161  (-1)

17 Hey Look Ma, I Made It       159  (-1)

18 Dancing With A Stranger       157  (-1)

19 Wow       154  (-1)

20 Someone You Loved       141  (=)

 

21 Beer Never Broke My Heart 137 (+3)

22 God's Country 137 (-1)

23 Without Me 136 (-1)
24 The London 134 (-1)

25 Beautiful People 129 (=)

26 Pop Out 129 (=)

27 Speechless 127 (+3)

28 Happier 125 (-1)

29 Panini 121 (-1)

30 My Type 120 (+7)

31 Knockin Boots 118 (+7)

32 7 Rings 116 (+1)

 

37 Gold Roses 112 (debut)

38 Never Really Over 111 (-6)

39 How Do You Sleep? 110 (-10)

41 China 106 (+11)

43 Cash **** 103 (+8)

52 Clout 95 (-2)

55 Hot Shower 92 (debut)

63 Press 86 (=)
64 Me! 84 (-6)

78 The Archer 69 (-9)

81 Southbound 67 (+8)

85 Hate Me 65 (-3)

 

[TaylenaStan]

33th top10 week for Sunflower  Too sad that it wont get the record breaking 34th week because Ariana will debut above + The Git Up/Ransom are coming  Imagine if Post puts Sunflower on the album and it gets the 34th week in album release week tho 

[Mr.Fenty]

Cash **** will enter top 40 soon

[MusicLoverDude]

42 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said:

Final predictions

 

1 Old Town Road       469  (=)

2 Bad Guy       393  (=)

3 Senorita       312  (=)

4 Truth Hurts       302  (+1)

5 No Guidance       282  (+6)

6 Talk       281  (-2)

7 I Don't Care       260  (-1)

8 Goodbyes       209  (-1)

9 Sunflower       209  (=)

10 Sucker       201  (-2)

 

11 If I Can't Have You       192  (-1)

12 The Git Up       185  (+2)

13 Suge       184  (-1)

14 Money In The Grave       182  (-1)

15 Ransom       179  (+4)

16 You Need To Calm Down       161  (-1)

17 Hey Look Ma, I Made It       159  (-1)

18 Dancing With A Stranger       157  (-1)

19 Wow       154  (-1)

20 Someone You Loved       141  (=)

 

21 Beer Never Broke My Heart 137 (+3)

22 God's Country 137 (-1)

23 Without Me 136 (-1)
24 The London 134 (-1)

25 Beautiful People 129 (=)

26 Pop Out 129 (=)

27 Speechless 127 (+3)

28 Happier 125 (-1)

29 Panini 121 (-1)

30 My Type 120 (+7)

31 Knockin Boots 118 (+7)

32 7 Rings 116 (+1)

 

37 Gold Roses 112 (debut)

38 Never Really Over 111 (-6)

39 How Do You Sleep? 110 (-10)

41 China 106 (+11)

43 Cash **** 103 (+8)

52 Clout 95 (-2)

55 Hot Shower 92 (debut)

63 Press 86 (=)
64 Me! 84 (-6)

78 The Archer 69 (-9)

81 Southbound 67 (+8)

85 Hate Me 65 (-3)

 

Do you expect a lot of songs going recurrent next week? Going Bad, Girl, Con Calma, Shallow, Middle Child, Sicko Mode, Better are all on the verge. 

[Green]

1 hour ago, Ger-55 said:

Where do you see this?

 

https://kworb.net/youtube/insights/us.html

[Ger]

1 hour ago, simmnfierzig said:

8 Goodbyes       209  (-1)

9 Sunflower       209  (=)

Almost outlasting his latest single, the slayage is ridiculous.  

[miguel]

he did THAT  

[Hurem]

31 minutes ago, MusicLoverDude said:

Do you expect a lot of songs going recurrent next week? Going Bad, Girl, Con Calma, Shallow, Middle Child, Sicko Mode, Better are all on the verge. 

Radio:

Girl: 30.2M

Better: 27.2M

Going Bad: 26.6M

Shallow: 26.2M

Con Calma: -

Middle Child: -

Sicko Mode: -

 

Spotify:

Middle Child: 3.6M

Going Bad: 3.08M

Better: 2.61M

Sicko Mode: 2.48M

Shallow: 1.88M

Con Calma: 1.78M

Girl: -

 

iTunes:

Shallow: #41

Sicko Mode: -

Better: -

Middle Child: -

Con Calma: -

Going Bad: -

Girl: 

 

It's going to be interesting to see what songs make it. Seems like Con Calma is the only one that's 100% getting the chop. 

[Element]

hate me falling even with an increase in radio and streaming?

[Green]

My Prediction:

 

1	Old Town Road	505
2	Bad Guy	407
3	Señorita	341
4	Truth Hurts	332
5	No Guidance	329
6	Talk	311
7	I don't care	295
8	Goodbyes	230
9	Sucker	222
10	Sunflower	213
11	If I Can't Have You	211
12	Ransom	203
13	Suge	196
14	Money In The Grave	195
15	The Git Up	187
16	You Need To Calm Down	175
17	Hey Look Ma, I Made It	171
18	Someone You Loved	169
19	Dancing with a stranger	168
20	Wow	161
21	Beer Never Broke My Heart	152
22	Without Me	142
23	Pop Out	140
24	God's Country	139
25	Beautiful People	138
26	The London	133
27	Speechless	132
28	Happier	128
29	Never really over	123
30	Panini	119
31	Sweet But Psycho	116
32	High Hopes	116
33	My Type	116
34	7 rings	115
35	Whiskey Glasses	113
36	Knockin' Boots	112
37	Shotta Flow	107
38	Gold Roses	107
39	How do you sleep?	106
40	Cash ****	104
41	All To Myself	100
42	Rumor	98
43	Baby	95
44	Act Up	95
45	Better	95
46	China	94
47	Clout	93
48	Rearview Town	92
49	Shallow	91
50	SICKO MODE	89

 

 

Going recurrent: Going Bad, Con Calma, Middle Child, GIRL.