charts discussion Radio callouts: Beautiful Things #1, Taste debuts nicely

[Starkboy]

23 hours ago, Sinister said:

Callout scores clearly dont represent the GP anymore because Come & Go has been perched near the top for months and its updates are always horrid

Come & Go has been showing incredible longevity on the streaming charts tho, so there's def some appeal out there loving the song

[Sinister]

4 hours ago, Starkboy said:

Come & Go has been showing incredible longevity on the streaming charts tho, so there's def some appeal out there loving the song

What I meant was that we can't sit here and make Callout scores the end all be all. If that's what the GP really wanted to listen to, then why hasnt radio been willing to spin it a lot more? I dont doubt it is well received

 

The correlation hasnt been there for a while now. 

[biomind101]

On 10/23/2020 at 4:09 PM, Squall said:

Midnight Sky STOMPING the HAC callouts

Miley

[Ger]

Yeah, I honestly don't know what's radio's indicator right now for its programming, it really is not following callout trends this year, unless exceptions, but that could be coincidence. To me it's still a mystery how a song like "ily" can be smashing so hard despite its mediocre performance on all other metrics. And I know it could very well be payola, but it's not an isolated case.

[kitasss_vlc]

Hahahahahah

 

What are the excuses now? 

[canyonmoon]

Wbk that the only people who listen to Dynamite are the band's stans. The poor callouts were predictable. 

 

Not to mention how the Samsung ads are everywhere. No wonder people are sick of hearing the song.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Good Dynamite is awful, pull it!

[Raphy23]

8 hours ago, Ger-55 said:

Yeah, I honestly don't know what's radio's indicator right now for its programming, it really is not following callout trends this year, unless exceptions, but that could be coincidence. To me it's still a mystery how a song like "ily" can be smashing so hard despite its mediocre performance on all other metrics. And I know it could very well be payola, but it's not an isolated case.

Do you think it could be Shazam? One of my fave stations does that. Shazam can specify its charts to a specific city/region so I think stations should be using it as an indicator. 

[FAN]

We need Ava Max to debut! 

[Reverse Warholian]

On 10/24/2020 at 5:43 PM, Sinister said:

What I meant was that we can't sit here and make Callout scores the end all be all. If that's what the GP really wanted to listen to, then why hasnt radio been willing to spin it a lot more? I dont doubt it is well received

 

The correlation hasnt been there for a while now. 

 

On 10/27/2020 at 2:05 AM, Ger-55 said:

Yeah, I honestly don't know what's radio's indicator right now for its programming, it really is not following callout trends this year, unless exceptions, but that could be coincidence. To me it's still a mystery how a song like "ily" can be smashing so hard despite its mediocre performance on all other metrics. And I know it could very well be payola, but it's not an isolated case.

Yep - this year of all years points to less of a correlation between callouts + airplay positions. Also felt like it was the same ten or so songs in power rotation for 3/4 of the year...like historically slow movement across every format it seems.

Edited October 29, 2020 by ReverseWarholian

[Ger]

On 10/27/2020 at 10:24 AM, Raphy23 said:

Do you think it could be Shazam? One of my fave stations does that. Shazam can specify its charts to a specific city/region so I think stations should be using it as an indicator. 

I'd think it's combination between callouts and Shazam, but yeah, Shazam is definetely playing a role. But my theory fails when we're talking about "Come & Go" which was slaying on both callouts and Shazam, yet struggling to reach Top 10.  I know programmers' taste is something, but c'mon.

[Raphy23]

3 hours ago, Ger-55 said:

I'd think it's combination between callouts and Shazam, but yeah, Shazam is definetely playing a role. But my theory fails when we're talking about "Come & Go" which was slaying on both callouts and Shazam, yet struggling to reach Top 10.  I know programmers' taste is something, but c'mon.

Come and Go is being treated unfairly!  But I can see it being a sleeper hit on radio

[Starkboy]

Potential (10/30)

1. Mood 87 (▲1)

2 (NE) Kings & Queens 86

3 (+1) I Hope 86 (▲2)

4 (-2) Come & Go 84 (▼2)

5 (-1) Be Like That 83 (▼1)

6. Before You Go 82

7 (-2) Blinding Lights 82

8 (+1) Rockstar 80 (▲1)

9 (-2) Watermelon Sugar 79 (▼3)

10. ily (i love you baby) 75 (▼2)

11. Savage Love (Laxed-Siren Beat) 75 (▲1)

12. Dynamite 72 (▲1)

 

Pop Score (10/30)

1. Blinding Lights 81

2. Before You Go 80

3 (+1) I Hope 77 (▲2)

4 (+1) Mood 77 (▲2)

5 (+1) Rockstar 76 (▲1)

6 (-3) Watermelon Sugar 75 (▼3)

7 (NE) Kings & Queens 75

8 (-1) ily (i love you baby) 72 (▼1)

99 (-1) Savage Love (Laxed-Siren Beat) 72 (▲2)

10 (-1) Be Like That 68

11 (-1) Come & Go 66 (▲2)

12. Dynamite 57 (▲2)

 

Net Positive (10/30)

1 (NE) Kings & Queens 49.2

2 (+1) Mood 46.1 (+1.7)

3 (-2) Come & Go 45.3 (-0.6)

4 (-2) Be Like That 44.8 

5 (-1) I Hope 44.0 (+3.2)

6 (+2) Before You Go 37.5 (+1.8)

7 (-1) Blinding Lights 36.9 (-0.1)

8 (+1) Rockstar 34.0 (+1.6)

9 (-2) Watermelon Sugar 33.7 (-2.8)

10. ily (i love you baby) 29.0  (-1.3)

11. Savage Love (Laxed-Siren Beat) 23.9 (+0.2)

12. Dynamite 23.8 (+1.6)

 

Most positive reaction: Kings & Queens

Favorite song: I Hope

Most negative reaction: Savage Love (Laxed-Siren Beat)

Heaviest Burnout: Blinding Lights

Most familiarity: Blinding Lights

[Bethenny Frankel]

Omg Ava! I did not expect that! Also where the hell is Miley? She's getting pulled before debuting I hate it.

[Pop Art]

Ava wtf.  Super happy for her, just didn't see that coming at all! Hopefully this pushes it even higher on radio, it just hit Top 10 overall today.

[Raphy23]

Smash incoming!     

Edited October 30, 2020 by Raphy23

[Ger]

Holy sh*t, that was unexpected, but was it really? Cause the song IS GREAT!!  

[QueenofCopyPaste]

OMG AT AVA

[Psycho]

AVA AHHH my ****ing fave

 

Poor those people who said it would sound bad on radio

[chaneloberlin]

Kings & Queens winning 

[FAN]

Ava omg we did it! Coming straight for #1 

[theweekend]

Net Positive (10/30)

1 (NE) Kings & Queens 49.2

 

gurllll 

[Kamil24]

I Hope the favourite song

[Fetish for MiMi]

Yassss my slaying 

[fridayteenage]

ava the new dua