Leaderboard

Waiting for her fans to say she had an anxiety attack before walking into the venue or something

You made over 20 posts in the last two weeks about how you feel about Houdini, I think that thread ban was for your own health!

Taylor Swift’s 2023 is the biggest peak we’ve seen in decades

Countdown to Houdini's smashery! 34 days left until January

I'm not her stan, but if you attend your Israeli friend's wedding does that mean you're zionism? You can't change your friend's race and it's just a wedding not a political rally.

Was Ashanti on strike?

Because Björk is a legend with the greatest discography in music history and Justin Timberlake is, well, Justin Timberlake

Not me thinking this was the Doja song

Losers exhibiting loser behaviour are we surprised

"Depsite having no projects lined up." I—

didnt understand a single word but come thru mother taterthot

This thread is very emblematic of an increasing discomfort I've been feeling about the hyper-online branch of the left (as someone who aligns with basically all of their views and policy ideas, including on Palestine/Israel): this running idea that situations can't have nuance, and that acknowledging the nuance is equivalent to secretly supporting the "wrong side" and essentially being no better than the people firmly on the far-right of the issue. As someone who's been surrounded by Jewish communities that span basically the full range of the political spectrum throughout my life, "the Israeli flag is nothing more than a political symbol that expresses support for the Zionist eradication of the Palestinian people" is just... objectively incorrect. I'm sorry if that makes you uncomfortable because it makes this situation murkier. But it's just an objectively incorrect statement. Many (not all) Jewish communities view the Israeli flag as a general symbol of Judaism that doesn't really have much to do with the political decisions that a specific country is making. Many Jewish people who don't even pay attention to what's going on in Israel associate the Israeli flag with positive feelings of cultural unity and identity. The most dominant element of the flag is the Magen David star, which predates the flag by literally thousands of years, and is worn by Jewish people across the political spectrum as a symbol of Judaism. If online discourse turns into targeting and shunning anyone who is remotely associated with an Israeli flag, that really does begin to cross the line into general anti-Semitism because it starts to equate all Jewish people who might have a positive feeling about the flag as a larger Jewish symbol with Zionists who want to see Palestine and Palestinians destroyed. Now, we could have an entirely separate conversation about whether the Israeli flag should be embraced by the Jewish community at large (as a Jewish person, it's personally something I'm uncomfortable with), but that theoretical conversation wouldn't change the current practical fact that it is. We can't erase the current nuances of the Jewish culture by willing them away. On a related point (and this is one I made in a post a few days after October 7), I think a lot of people continue to not truly understand how much of Western Zionism is rooted in ignorance and misinformation as opposed to direct bigotry and hostility. Of course, there is absolutely a substantial subset of Israel supporters who are hardcore Zionists, hold deeply racist beliefs towards Palestinians, and see the existence of an apartheid-esque ethnostate as a positive end goal. But there's an entire other subset of Israel supporters (and one I think is probably larger than the hardcore Zionist subset) who support Israel because they've only ever been told about the "good parts" of Israel (i.e., that it was a safe haven for Jews after the Holocaust) and have essentially been brainwashed by very powerful Zionist advocacy groups over their lives to either completely ignore the bad parts or to believe that it's all made up or exaggerated. That continues to be the discomfort I have with how anyone who says something good about Israel is immediately witch-hunted - you can't really oppose something if you don't know it's bad, and the online left often seems more interested in berating people it views as wrong instead of making an effort to understand why they may be wrong and try to get them to see the correct side. Which I find a little ironic because a lot of those same people on the online left have frequently taken the view that Trump supporters are just victims of poor economic circumstances and being ignored/belittled by the Democrats, and that they maybe wouldn't love Trump so much if the Democrats offered better policies that actually speak to them. If you try to view pro-Israel Jewish people through that same lens, their perspective might start to make more sense. Last thing I'll say for now: I do think a lot of people on here and in the larger discourse on this issue need to be a bit more reflective about what crosses the line from validly asserting that anti-Zionism /=/ anti-Semitism and into silencing more reasonable Jewish voices. If someone comes in here and says "you're all just anti-Semitic if you hate Israel", then they absolutely deserve to be reminded that opposing the Zionist ideology and the Israeli government is not anti-Semitic. But if someone comes in here and says "as a Jewish person, it's making me uncomfortable that the nuances of the Jewish community's connection with Israel are being waved off and this is starting to feel like a witch hunt against the larger Jewish community", that shouldn't be met with accusations that they're weaponizing cries of anti-Semitism and they're secretly far right neo-Nazis. The left is for the most part very good at recognizing that the group at the centre of an issue is usually the one that's best-equipped to decide if something counts as bigotry towards that group, but it seems like Jewish voices are often not given any opportunity to express what they feel is creeping into anti-Semitism. Again, I realize this is complicated because there are many Zionists who falsely try to paint all criticism of Israel as inherently anti-Semitic, but I think the left also has some responsibility to make a better effort to try to discern between which Jewish commenters fall into that category vs. which Jewish commenters deserve the space to express their views about anti-Semitism because they have a better understanding of the nuances of the Jewish community than a non-Jewish person would.

you laughing at #1 Billboard year end artist, #1 IFPI year end artist, #1 Spotify Artist, #1 Apple Music Artist, #1 radio play artist, biggest tour of all time and biggest concert movie or…?

And thank God! Imaging living in a world where Camila Cabello is a successful pop star that's everywhere

Chris Crocker?

Taylor with almost half of the top 10. Yet some claim to say that this is not the biggest peak of the 21st century we have seen

2M she is the most local pop star according to the shitties. It will be embarrassing for them if she does higher than that

Tina just went off on Instagram about the bleaching accusations I don't blame her. I wasn't going to bring it up, but I saw an article from the Daily Mail someone shared on Twitter that accused her of bleaching and brought in experts to talk about how dangerous it is under the guise of concern. Absolutely disgusting people

Taylor Swift has reached demand & media saturation not seen since 1980s MJ & Madonna - NYT Taylor Swift at "Beatles-level" of fame - HDD Taylor Swift has "reached Michael Jackson-level of media coverage" - Bilboard Looks like they did Isn't smashing with 9 albums more impressive than smashing with 2 albums

+60M album units (2022-2023) +60B streams (2022-2023) 9 albums in the top 50 of YEC Highest grossing tour of all time with +1.5B gross Highest grossing concert film of all time How is it arguable that this is not the biggest peak of 21st century at this point

First of all, 21 was released in 2011. Secondly, Taylor’s 2023 is bigger than Adele’s 2011

We almost there y'all.

This post is anti-Semitism, and it is sad to see it get so many upvotes. You slyly accuse that member of being a "white settler colonist" when they clearly stated their background is Middle-Eastern - not so different from yours. More than 65% of the citizens of Israel are of an ethnically Middle-Eastern background, including over half of the Jewish population who are descendents of people expulsed from Middle-Eastern and North African countries. Further from that, a very high percentage of European descended Jews are from the former Soviet Union, not New York or whatever, and do not have anywhere to "go back to" due to losing their citizenship in that era. Additonally, I will add that 70% of Israeli Jews were born in Israel, and that percentage continues to rise as time goes on. You are using an anti-semitic trope that portrays Israelis as rich white settlers from Brooklyn who are all there because they're committed ideaological Zionists. This is blatantly false and represents a minority within a minority of Israelis. The reality is most Jewish Israelis fall into three categories: Middle Eastern (Mizrahi), former Soviet Union/communist block, or descendants of Holocaust survivors. This is not a population that can simply uproot and leave Israel whenever they feel like it. I am suspicious of your narrative and motive, because it reads as a justification for some future ethnic cleansing - it seems justifiable to force people out if they have an apartment in New York to go to, right? We need peace, and part of that peace involves the acknowledgement that Israelis are there to stay, regardless of whether we are talking about a one or two state solution. The exception being West Bank settlers, who must leave in order for a two state solution to be possible. Palestinians and Free Palestine supporters need to accept this reality - and many do - or peace will never happen.

the way he’s still getting fresh lashings

this might not be something he wants to be included on

Rihannas stans obsession with Taylor needs to studied... Theyre mad that stupid networth record will be snatched by Taylor very soon

200M she is the 2nd biggest popstar according to the insects. It will be embarassing to do lower than that

The song... The lyrics… The meaning… The vocals... The production… The video… The styling…

Forbes names Puerto Rican megastar Bad Bunny the new “King Of Pop” in new magazine cover. Do you agree, ATRL?

ugh you are SUCH a little bitch

How can you not like her? Everything she does is intentional and high quality.

Excuses. The other is literally Jung Kook.

5:53 Friday

The posts by mostly Europeans devolving into debunked ideas of race science. The reality of Jewish people living in Europe for over a thousand years being met with people earnestly going "we Europeans barely mixed with those poor people! They're clearly North African in their genetics! I mean, look at their skull shapes!" isn't doing what people hope it is doing nor disputing the realities of whiteness being a social construction, let alone one that has propped up support for Israel and how it represents "Judeo-Christian society" against the "Arab barbarism of the Middle East". That is literally the language the founders of Zionism used when pitching their movement to colonial powers for assistance. There's been one single user to make the meaningful point that the Israeli flag features religious symbology and thus nuance should be applied to how Jewish people either engage with the flag or react to usage of the flag. I agree with this! I get why Jewish people who don't even consider themselves Zionists wince or hesitate when they see protestors with signs featuring a giant X over the flag or the flag in the trash. Room should be given to people to navigate those discomforts. There should then be an eventual discussion on the insidiousness of tying the state of Israel to all Jewish people and the contradictions that occur in shielding Israeli state policy under the guise of Judaism, but again, there again should be room for nuance. However, that nuance becomes impossible when people begin to rely on disingenuous concepts like "listen to Jewish voices" as a means to excuse Israel as a state apparatus and why posts like this become questionable: "Listen to Jewish voices on the importance of Israel to the Jewish faith" is...not an earnest, well-meaning concept. It shows the flaws in representational, "listen to ____________" politics and how such ideas are not leftist but liberal in inception because they value some idea that identity is epistemology over material analysis. Am I meant to listen to this Jewish voice when she says that it is antisemitic for people to try and deny God's chosen people from returning to Judea and Samaria (aka the West Bank) via smiting those who oppose the creation of Greater Israel?

When she called lana del rey a "whites-only water fountain confederate sally american lynch mob romanticist" or when she referred to J.lo as "Jennifer columbus"

I am pro-freePalestine and think that Israel definitely is doing nasty bs and is largely responsible for the development of Hamas. However, could we just PLEASE retire the lie that Israel was created by white European settlers? Educate yourselves please. I come from Poland, a country which was around 1/4 Jewish before WW2. Most Jews did not mix with the ethnically Polish population, living in their own districts. Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews are mostly Middle Eastern in genetics, and settled in Eastern Europe following displacement. This is proven by genetic studies. Natalie Portman or Scarlett Johansson don't represent the average Jewish appearance. The white-passing Jews were also more likely to survive the war. After world war II, my country still conducted extensive antisemitic cleansing, forcing hundreds of thousands of Jews to leave Poland for good. My grandfather's brother actually beat up and injured a Jewish student at university back then. I've seen comments asking: why don't Jews just come to Poland? Because Poles largely hate them. I've met sooo many people who still consider antisemitic concentration camp jokes funny and don't want them here. The situation is horribly difficult and it reminds me how tragic society is. We need to find some solution that will allow both the Palestinians and the Jews their own place. I don't really know how tbh. Everything just seems so bleak. I know I'm gonna get so many downvotes but **** it

I remember showing LoveGame MV to my middle school crush, telling him how hot Lady Gaga is while I was imagining his D We wrestled that day

- I said I wouldn't be friends with them if they were a Zionist. Being a Jew doesn't mean you are assigned to having zionists views. The same way being white doesn't mean you subscribe to white supremacy...the hell? also, I'm pretty sure Dua Lipa has done and presented herself more raunchy than the Queen in my avi; you're sounding like a triggered boomer. How about you condemn the terrorist Israeli government? edit: it just hit me that you are so disturbed by my avi because its a feminine male who's just walking back and forth he's not doing anything vulgar oh well, continue to fume

@SchmoodRing now girl why are you going back and liking & quoting posts from February

y'all what year is it

Omg I wish him well.

Allegedly there’s a pretty large songwriting camp for Rihanna that’s been going on for the past few weeks. My trusted source is telling me she’s been in and out of the studio a LOT lately in LA. Apparently Pinkpantheress is also participating and is pitching songs to Rih.

Im starting to get uncomfortable with people yelling “Zionists!!” at every Israeli/Jewish event. At what point does it start to be anti-Semitic, because honestly it’s getting to that point with certain portions of liberal social media. Jewish people shouldn’t be treated as Pariahs.

Such an underrated shoot. The Chroma era really gave us some of her best magazine photoshoots ever.