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Ew. Imagine being anti-labor except for Taylor Swift.

I haven't heard this song once in my life, and I don't know anyone who has

Deserves a worse score than the original for its worse production and vocals takes so this was v generous of them

or just treat your artists correctly and fairly so they don’t feel as though they have to do it? like…

Seriously, if this was true, i would unstan her real quick, how dare she. Its not her achievement only, its a team work, its us fans achiement also. This is like a slap to every fans attend the tour. I beg you Taylor, change your mind. Release those damn boxscore.

Miss thing has never seen a war she didn't like

Not me reading Skai jackson

because Kelly had technical issues while Ashlee was just straight up lip syncing?

Why is this even news. Who cares? TMZ is weirdly obsessed. What's next, "Britney Spears doesn't tip at restaurant"?

Summarize in simple terms? I can try. In SHORT terms? No. I'll try bullet points for clarity. The land in question is considered "Holy Land" by both Muslims and Jews (according to Jew/Christian belief, Muslims descend from the prophet Abraham's first son Ishmael and Jews from his second son Isaac). This is like, legit thousands of years ago. According to Jewish belief, the land where Israel is settled today (and other surrounding areas) was their "Promised Land" which belonged to them and only them. Jews suffered multiple exiles from the area over the course of thousands of years, which is why most Jews, were settled in Europe. Jews have been victims of persecution pretty much since the inception of time. In the late 1800s a Jewish activist called Theodor Herzl started the Zionist movement, according to which, Jews would create a homeland in their Holy Land. antisemitic rhetoric had always been somewhat prevalent, so Herzl believed that the only way to avoid it was to create a Jewish state. Of course, Herzl and adopters of this movement, thoroughly ignored that said "Holy Land" was already occupied. The territory belonged to the Ottoman Empire, and was informally (but pretty much officially) called Palestine. More than half a million Arabs lived there. In the following years (late 1800s - early 1900s) Jews started to emigrate to Palestine to escape the rise of antisemitism. By the 1920s, the population of Palestine was of 757K, of which 600K were Muslim, 85K Jewish, 75K Christian. World War I saw the Ottoman Empire join forces with the Central Powers (Germany, Austria-Hungary, Bulgaria), and were defeated by the Allied Forces (France, UK, US, etc). The Ottoman Empire is dissolved once they're defeated and France and the UK split its territory, with France taking Syria and the UK taking Palestine. This is known as the British Mandate, in 1922 (also the French Mandate, but it's irrelevant here). In 1917 the UK had signed the Balfour Declaration, which was a show of support to the Zionist movement in terms of establishing a homeland in Palestine. Reminder that at this point 80% of the population of Palestine was Muslim, 11% was Jewish. Over the course of the following two decades, Palestinians (non-Jewish) rioted and revolted multiple times. All the while Jewish people continued to emigrate to Palestine. Antisemitic rhetoric was reaching a fever high... idk if you recognize the date but it's time for _*-*_ HITLER _*-*_. After World War II, the UK was like "right, yeah, about that British Mandate, I don't want it anymore" and handed the issue to the UN. The UN partitioned the land 56% for Israel, 44% for Palestine, with Jerusalem being under international control, despite the fact that non-Jewish Palestinians were a vast majority. Israel was like "yes!" and Arabs were like "uh, no?" Cue, conflict. The resolution by the UN was declared in late November 1947. Ten days prior, a paramilitary Zionist organization killed multiple members of an Arab family, which resulted in the Arab side retaliating by killing multiple Jews, which morphed into a full blown civil war, which escalated to a full blown Arab-Jewish war by May 15 1948, when Israel was officially declared a state. This is probably the hardest part to explain in simple terms because of all the moving parts, but it essentially resulted in what's called Nakba (which means "catastrophe"), where with horrible attacks, Israel expelled 700K+ Arabs from the land. Civilians, obviously. This is something Mohamed Hadid (Gigi and Bella's dad) has touched on, because it happened to him. His parents had taken a Jewish family after World War II because they had nowhere to live, when his mom was pregnant with him, she went to his grandmother's house to give birth and when she came back, the Jewish family which was taking refuge in her house had taken over, and they refused to even give her a blanket for the baby. His family was forced into exile with just the clothes on their backs. This entire thing resulted in Israel occupying more land than it was originally given. In 1967 Israel preemptively launched an attack by air and ground on Egypt (which at this point was occupying Gaza). This is also incredibly long, just know that it wound up with Israel capturing 78% of the land, further separating Palestinian territory into two sections Gaza and the West Bank. This is the map that you've probably seen floating around. Green is Palestine, white is Israel, the large portion on the right is the West Bank and the other tiny piece of green land is Gaza Through this all Palestine is stateless. It has been occupied by Jordan and Egypt. Israel occupied Gaza when they defeated Egypt, they "left" Gaza in 2005, but to this day control everything that goes in and out. They don't allow Palestinians to build an airport or a port, Palestinians can't create water pumps, Israel adopted the tactic of "putting Palestinians on a diet" which means calorie counting how much food per person they allow in, in order to control population growth and development. They also routinely bomb areas of Gaza in an action they call "mowing the lawn" (it's a form of psychological control and torture). Most of Gaza is unemployed, there are literally no jobs. 64% of the population is under 23, with around 50% being under 18. This is because life expectancy in Gaza is around 74, while life expectancy in Israel is around 85. Israel doesn't allow fishermen to fish deeper than 6 miles off shore. I could go on. In West Bank, you can see that the 1967 and 1920 maps are significantly different, that's because Israel occupies the West Bank, and over the course of the years allowed (encouraged) settlers to isolate and separate the West Bank in multiple enclaves, which you can see in the pic. They offer cheaper taxes or services to settlers that take Palestinian houses, you might've seen videos of New York native "Israelis" admittedly stealing Palestinian houses. That's because multiple Israeli companies claim ownership of Palestinian homes and sell them to foreign Jews for dirt cheap, and Palestinians don't have legal recourse, they're just forced to leave. There are multiple (around 500?) military check points controlled by the IDF in the West Bank. There are streets Palestinian people aren't allowed to walk on, and if they do they're apprehended. Because some Palestinian people had houses that opened to those streets, the IDF welded their doors together. Palestinians are forced to leave their houses (to go to school, work, do groceries) via ladders through their windows. Speaking of the IDF, it stands for Israeli Defense Forces. Conscription is literally mandatory for all Israeli citizens for about 2/3 years. Yes, even women (that's why Gal Gadot served in the IDF, for instance). You may also see the IDF referred to as IOF, aka, Israeli Occupying Forces. Israel's military is considered one of the best in the world, and is heavily funded by the US. The US finds it of upmost importance to have an ally (and a glorified military base) in the Middle East. That's why Biden is giving them carte blanche to genocide, and that's why Biden (multiple times) famously said, "If Israel didn't exist we'd have to invent it." Anyway, another FUN aspect of Palestinian lives is how there's four kinds of Palestinian citizens in the region (each with a different identifying ID card), and all of them are "inferior" to Israel citizens. The "lowest" residents are those who reside in Gaza. They're not allowed to enter Israel proper or the West Bank or Jerusalem. If they leave Gaza they can't return. Then there's the West Bank residents. They're not allowed to enter Israel proper or Jerusalem. If they leave the West Bank they can't return. They can move to Gaza if they so desire, but then they can't come back. Then there's the Jerusalem residents. If they leave Jerusalem they can't return. They can move to the West Bank or Gaza, but they can't come back. Then there's the Israeli Palestinian residents. They're free to move through all of the territory but if they leave Israel proper they can't come back. The first three kinds of Palestinians can't vote in Israeli elections or present themselves as candidates. The Israeli Palestinian residents can vote, but they can't platform liberation campaigns or anything that would benefit Palestine or the creation of a state of Palestine. So, basically, an empty vote. Israel has it in written law that Jerusalem has to have a certain percentage of Jewish population (I believe it's 64%), it's also an unwritten law that Israel has to have a majority Jewish population, which is why they're called an "ethnostate" While Netanyahu's approval ratings are in the pits, the IDF has an overwhelmingly positive image. Israel is a non-democracy. There are laws that prohibit the discussion of Nakba, if a Jewish Israeli marries a non-Jew they can't live together and the marriage isn't recognized by the state. They also don't pass on Israeli citizenship to their partners. Israelis are incredibly indoctrinated into despising Palestinians, and most of the population does. Something I didn't mention before is that Israel was created with the goal to imitate European countries and separate themselves from the rest of the Middle East. Israel is a DEEPLY racist country. Its leaders routinely refer to Palestinians as "animals" and "children of darkness." They use Bible quotes to justify genocide, very outwardly. Multiple polls over the years show that most Israeli citizens are in favor of carpet bombing Gaza, or annexing Gaza after committing genocide (killing all Palestinians) or ethnic cleansing (expelling all Palestinians). Another important thing to add is that all Jews, everywhere in the world, have what Israel calls "a birthright" which means each year between 40 and 25K Jewish young adults (ages 18 to 26) are given a free trip to Israel (which can range from a few days to a few weeks). A Jewish person can move to Israel at any given moment and get automatic citizenship, and they'll get a cut on taxes and other cost if they move to Israel (and like I said, they also can get houses for dirt cheap). As I said before, once a Palestinian leaves, they're not allowed to come back... I think the last thing I can explain without delving into very long-winded details is that Gaza is controlled by Hamas. Hamas was an Islamic social group funded in 1987. Over the years it became more violent and resistant to Israel mistreatment of Palestinian citizens and in turn Israel has used that as a tool for victimization, equating them to ISIS and using them as an excuse for... all of their atrocities. It's important to recognize that Hamas was funded (not founded, funded) by the Israeli government because they wanted to divide the Palestinian people who were mostly in favor of a secular government called Fatah. Hamas won the last election in Gaza in 2006 by a small minority (and it was funded by Israel back then, which multiple former Israeli politicians have admitted on the record). They created a whole maze of tunnels under Gaza and routinely resist against Israel. October 7 was an attack by Hamas which took multiple hostages and killed multiple Israeli civilians. It was in retaliation to not only the constant mistreatment of Israeli to Palestinian people, but also their recurrent attacks on Mosques on Ramadan and other assorted attacks from Israel. Ever since then, Israel is using the hostages and the civilian casualties as an excuse to "hunt Hamas" and "exterminate it." Because they move mostly through tunnels, they claim that Hamas uses civilians as human shields and they're hiding below hospitals, mosques, schools, etc, in order to carpet bomb the f*ck out of the territory. As of today, Israel has killed 8,000 civilians in Gaza (it has a population of around 2 million). Israel has also killed multiple Palestinians in the West Bank, despite the fact that Hamas does NOT control that territory. Hamas has offered to hand the hostages in exchange for a ceasefire, Israel refused, in exchange for Israel freeing Palestinian prisoners (Israel has thousands of Palestinian prisoners, a good chunk of them children, most of them for absolutely no reason), Israel refused. They offered hostages in exchange for fuel and the entrance of aid, Israel refused. Since Israel controls Gaza's supply of electricity, water, internet, food, etc, they have cut off all of it, blanking out Gaza in the process. They've told Gaza residents to move south, but then bombed the routes they marked as safe, and then bombed the south of Gaza. It has murdered 20 something journalists and the families of a few of them (which they admit they did on purpose). They've apparently murdered about 50 hostages. I honestly don't know what else to add. If I forgot anything, someone else add it.

Rihanna has no discernible musical talent and is the 2nd biggest female singles artist of all time. How does your worldview explain that situation?

I'm sorry, but this can't be a serious post now, right?

cis, you're reaching

You think we think she’s poor?

Since the beginning of her career, Katy has played to her strengths the most of out of all the pop girls. She became a household name with Teenage Dream as a bubblegum princess and ‘girl next door’, achieving 6 number ones in one era due to smart promotion and marketing strategy. When Gaga’s shock novelty wore off, Katy was able to capitalise with her relatable brand and gained lots of public support. Just when it seemed like she couldn’t get bigger, Prism spawned the biggest hits of her career - Roar and Dark Horse, cementing her as the new biggest pop star. I’ve never experienced a pop star being loved as much as when Roar came out. That was the moment she had the world in her grasp, radios rushing to playlist her, skyrocketing sales, media and tv shows praising her to the heavens. She strikes me as someone who will keep going and work hard, even if Smile and Witness didn’t have the same success. Like Madonna in her prime, she is business savvy and understands the importance of the image as a pop star. She will reinvent her image and sound, and continue to cement her success. She has remained humble, surrounds herself with a great team who deliver high quality visuals and never let ego or fame corrupt her

Lock her up! (in a Libyan prison)

stop being annoying @Taylor Swift

Funny way to be spending her post-presidency years. Oh wait...

Why are you always in these billboard threads talking about ******* Poland? We don’t give a ****!! Go make a thread about the female artists dominating your country’s charts and see who cares

you cannot take the ultracapitalism out of swifties

It’s been time for musicians to organize. There needs to be a union protecting their collective bargaining as SAG-AFTRA does for the actors, etc

Madonna mostly sold one album per one person each and still sold millions . Taylor release several versions of the same thing , with a single Stan buying like 4 copies of the same album. You can’t compare. Also the best Taylor can ever do is surpass her commercial sale. She will never touch her cultural impact. Madonna will always be the greatest female pop star ever.

read it and don't sign it then

YAS RENAISANCE WORLD TOUR THE HIGHEST GROSSING TOUR BY A FEMALE ARTIST IN HISTORY YOU WILL ALWAYS BE FAMOUS

Madonna showing up at an award show without doing a performance, speech, nothing. Just showing up to accept an award. This was after Evita and Ray of Light wasn’t even released. This was “just” 16 years into her career. She was only getting bigger from here for the next 4 years. An almost 2 minute standing ovation and people crying in the audience just because she’s up there. No woman will ever reach something like this. And saying Taylor is bigger after 18 years doesn’t make it true. Madonna not only had released less studio albums at that point, but she had multiple eras outside of studio albums that you’re forgetting (TIC, Something to Remember, Evita, Who’s That Girl, Im Breathless) and all soundtrack singles she had released were hits at that point (Crazy For You, Into the Groove, I’ll Remember, etc). She also had the biggest and the top grossing documentary ever to debut at the cinemas with Truth Or Dare. A record she had until 2002 and it’s been considered as the beginning of reality tv as we know it. She had done tours like Blond Ambition, The Girlie Show, she had influenced fashion, she had influenced feminism, she had been a spokesperson for aids victims, she had done the sex book, she had promoted safe sex, she had the balls and managed to start conversations that someone as safe as Taylor will never dream of. Most of these things were taboos back then. The bravest thing Taylor did was speaking out against a republican candidate…and she did that when it was convenient and safe to her and a day after ending her Reputation tour so she wouldn’t alienate her conservative fanbase. Reducing Madonna to “records sold” is useless specially when comparing her to someone that’s the opposite of Madonna: safe and predictable. (And there’s nothing wrong about being like this btw) So far Madonna is still ahead and will remain for the next years and even if Taylor surpasses her records sold, Madonna will still not be surpassed by her. Not as long as Taylor literally walks the road Madonna made easy for her to walk on. And one day Taylor will be a 65 year old popstar and no one will be calling her old…because people like Madonna have already opened up the path for her making it easier for her to have a sizeable career. I’ll take this opportunity to remind you that when Madonna was Taylors age she was getting these headlines: I’ll leave it at this

It’s kinda crazy that she’ll have a song from 1989, Midnights and Lover in the top 3

Madonna sold all those records while being a controversial, polarizing figure and a risk-taker. She never cared to soften or tone down her image and her music in order to cater to the masses and sell albums. Yet, still became the best-selling female artist of all time. That’s why she’ll always be thee queen of pop

Artists like JoJo, who didn't necessarily write their hit songs in the beginning but did so much hard work, going out there promoting and singing the songs, sure as hell deserved not to be screwed over by a record label. Re-recording definitely helped her. As far as I'm concerned, if those karaoke businesses who release songs "in the style of" are allowed, then the original artist should also be able to re-record versions too...especially if the recording contract is over.

This was bound to happen,shocked its even UMG doing it too. She kinda did a great thing for herself but it was never going to be a fairytale ending for other artists . Some new artists who are desperate will sign a contract no matter how bad the terms are,case in point Ms Grant there in your profile pic did the same thing in the beginning of her career.

Brit Brit was auditioning for Fast & Furious. ***** said stay off them streets or die.

This isn't even true though. A lot of artists, especially newbies, are writing their own stuff and it gets sold off to bigger artists at the expense of their own careers. Taylor is an exception because she was signed to a indie record label from the start of her career and thus was never exploited in the same way a lot of young artists are. She was also allowed to write her own songs (a lot of the time artists are made to record writers camp demos, even if they write their own stuff - look at Raye for example).

Hoping for the worst for everyone involved

Forever Winter is such a unique gem in her catalog. She has so many songs about love and the mechanics of how relationships work or crumble so its nice to have something thematically different. Forever Winter's theme is just heart wrenching especially when you know it was personal and something she experienced....it's also one of the songs where you hear her really have this next level empathy for someone dealing with something so dark and then you add in the fact that she herself was so young at the time that this event occurred and it just adds another emotional layer because the lyrics in some parts of the song are so juvenile but you hear her sing them with her older vocal tone and it's almost like someone reading an emotional journal / diary entry from 10 years ago and it's just...wow. Not to mention the production is so beautiful. Something about it is so nostalgic and sad and reminds me of like an outro song to a really melancholic coming of age independent film I would have watched like 10 years ago or something

Oh wow this really didn’t age WELL !

Taylor Swift's trickling monopoly over the industry is straight up the worst thing to have happened to modern music

Masseduction as a whole is so good, one of my favorite albums of all time

Oh I've really had it with your hateful ass. I also grew up and still live in a Muslim-majority country as a non-religious gay man. I also have an incredible amount of rage, anger, and resentment against Islam and many Muslims as well, so don't even bother replying to me and trying to school me on that and the emotional trauma it causes us. I used to lowkey sympathize with you because I understand some of my fellow ex-Muslims' trauma and extreme resentment, but you just never knew where to draw the line. It is a fact that many ex-Muslims tend to do this out of religious trauma and "rebelling" against Islam, but that cannot be used as an excuse to spew hateful sh-t. You present yourself as someone who is revealing the "real truth" about Muslims and speaking from experience then end up allying with far-right/fascist groups and dehumanizing an entire group of people. (Newsflash: the people you're simping for don't even like you!) Your contribution to this site is nothing other than making threads and posts dedicated to dehumanizing Muslims and brown people, all veiled under "IM JUST CRITICIZING ISLAM THE RELIGION OKAYY!!!! BUT MUSLIMS ARE BARBARIC DANGEROUS ANIMALS THAT SHOULD GET DEPORTED!!!! HOW DARE YOU NOT AGREE WITH ME AND TALK TO ME LIKE THAT????? YOU ARE NOT AN EX-MUSLIM AND A POC LIKE ME??????". We all see right through you and you aren't fooling anyone. Trust. The only people co-signing you are the same ones who think it's okay for Palestinians to be killed because they're not LGBTQ+ rights supporters and activists, aka people with 2 (generous) brain cells. You being ex-Muslim won't change the fact that you're still a bigot, a zionist, and a genocide supporter. So stop weaponizing it against @Communion, @ClashAndBurn, and other users here when they call your ass out. I truly, genuinely hope that you get to heal and slowly process and let go of that sh-t.

The only thing Taylor has done over Madonna is remain commercially successful and stable for longer but this comes at the price of being most likely the most boring mainstream artist to come out this century

She’s proven she doesn’t need a 1m debut to have you all talking about her even on your fave’s release weekend.

At last night's show of her tour, Kesha gave a short speech acknowledging her and Britney's joint, recently-obtained freedom ahead of performing Till The World Ends . 33:39 - 33:50: 34:19 - 34:50:

this is black folks business

"Protests for Palestine are illegitimate because Yemen and Ukraine didn't get the same reaction." MSNBC's take on this is UGLY

Sadly for her, no amount of bombs or drones will drown the screams of her husband knee deep in another woman out of her memories.

This deserves nothing higher than a 6.5. The production ruins it Blank Space & How You Get The Girl sound awful instrumentally.

No, she's the dumbest. Always on the wrong side of history in her desperate attempts to be socially proactive, and that ruined her career.

This is what I don't get. Who do they think is the source for the Israel death tolls? Who do they think is the source for any claim made about Israeli victims? Every source has been the IDF and Israeli government. So the apartheid committing government is inherently reliable but the people under apartheid.. are not? Even when Israel was found to produce doctored or fake evidence like doctored videos or audio that it claimed showed it had no responsibility for the hospital bombing, its claim of death tolls of its own people are largely respected universally. And that same respect largely given to the death tolls of Palestinians outside of the most fringe, racist neo-cons who used to used slurs like "Pallywood". Even the "they're faking their deaths" smear was changed to "only so many die because Hamas uses them as human shields!!!". This is Joe Biden's legacy. By smearing Palestinians and not even letting them have peace in death, he has emboldened white supremacists to erase the victims of Israeli apartheid happening in real-time.

Fagademiks has a nice ring to it