best of ? Wicked's 2k17 Year End Thingy | #1 SHOW REVEALED

[World Eater]

Undercover is in fact one of Susanne's best 

Couple of interesting choices eye c  Love Alterlife, Friend Zone (this goes off live ), On Another Ocean, Die 4 You (!!!), tonite, Dark Side of the Gym (!!!), Feels Like Heaven, 745, Knocked Down and Bluff (WIG)

[Maddox]

Fff Bono is a damn fool  

 

Vince, Kelela, GoldLink, PG, tonite  Nice top 10!

[Bubble Tea]

Hmmm...

 

 

Miguel is really sexy.

[Bloomers]

Alright. I trust your taste very much so I would like to say thank you for putting together a TV list because I have fallen really far behind in pop culture and will use it to help me catch up.

 

I think I will start with Manhunter when I get the chance!

 

A 8-part dramatization of how the FBI got the Unabomber, this was surprisingly a nice watch. Paul Bettany however completely slaughtered (in a good way) 

 

I see what you did here and you're killing me with it

 

As far as the music goes, I'm catching up on your Best of, but I really like everything I already know: Jay, Vince, the National, Kelela, LCD, Thundercat, etc. While I was here, I checked out that Anna von Hausswolff (what a name) track because of the description and terrifying artwork and was pretty impressed. It was Wicked cool  I'm gonna have to go through the rest that I don't know. 

[Navyofbadgals]

both Jay songs are good picks for #1 definitely the best of his album

I would say that O.J. is the better track, though 4:44 has more replay value, so this tie makes sense

 

Bluff is better than both though  

[Pink Matter]

Awesome top 10. Just didn't care for Ariel Pink this year and had no idea The Diplomats came through with music this year lmao. Great #1 too   

[montrealxo]

damn that top 10 

 

i didn't like 4:44 like i wanted to. i tried. i was just bored to tears with it real fast. i could hear the quality though 

[MP2K]

Drowning is a song I really grew to like. He's from my hometown and all the kids/people were talking about him and was just like meh. That's still probably the only song I will listen to from him lol
Undercover got hate, from where? I did snub it this year though. I do love me some Susanne.
I just discovered Alterlife and I'm pissed, I use.
Chanel, Banana Clip + FriendZone
That top 10 tbh is great

I'm gaging at Diplomats but listening to it, it's really good.

[Wicked]

On 12/29/2017 at 3:11 PM, AlexisNeiers said:

Undercover is in fact one of Susanne's best 

Couple of interesting choices eye c  Love Alterlife, Friend Zone (this goes off live ), On Another Ocean, Die 4 You (!!!), tonite, Dark Side of the Gym (!!!), Feels Like Heaven, 745, Knocked Down and Bluff (WIG)

Wish I could've seen Thundercat live, lucky you!!

On 12/29/2017 at 3:25 PM, Maddox said:

Fff Bono is a damn fool  

 

Vince, Kelela, GoldLink, PG, tonite  Nice top 10!

He has old white man syndrome, it's quite common. Pray for him I guess.

On 12/29/2017 at 3:25 PM, Reinvention said:

Hmmm...

 

 

Miguel is really sexy.

21 hours ago, Bloomers said:

Alright. I trust your taste very much so I would like to say thank you for putting together a TV list because I have fallen really far behind in pop culture and will use it to help me catch up.

 

I think I will start with Manhunter when I get the chance!

 

 

 

 

I see what you did here and you're killing me with it

 

As far as the music goes, I'm catching up on your Best of, but I really like everything I already know: Jay, Vince, the National, Kelela, LCD, Thundercat, etc. While I was here, I checked out that Anna von Hausswolff (what a name) track because of the description and terrifying artwork and was pretty impressed. It was Wicked cool  I'm gonna have to go through the rest that I don't know. 

You'll want to pay close attention to a future update then! Good to have you back btw.

15 hours ago, Navyofbadgals said:

both Jay songs are good picks for #1 definitely the best of his album

I would say that O.J. is the better track, though 4:44 has more replay value, so this tie makes sense

 

Bluff is better than both though  

Bluff is an all time CLASSIC, too.

12 hours ago, Pink Matter said:

Awesome top 10. Just didn't care for Ariel Pink this year and had no idea The Diplomats came through with music this year lmao. Great #1 too   

Get into it!

9 hours ago, montrealxo said:

damn that top 10 

 

i didn't like 4:44 like i wanted to. i tried. i was just bored to tears with it real fast. i could hear the quality though 

Mess, I'll convert you to a believer.

On 12/27/2017 at 8:58 AM, Navyofbadgals said:

BY  

sidenote but just started with Manhunt: Unabomber and it's great  

Yes! It's so good!

On 12/27/2017 at 3:01 PM, DAP said:

Stan Young Thug and Migos 

 

I still can’t get into Bodak Yellow. It sucks, Bartier Cardi is better

I'm actually lukewarm on Bartier Cardi... It just lacks some oomf + I'm kinda tired of her mentioning Offset every 5 seconds, she's building too much of her music around him too soon.

On 12/28/2017 at 10:49 PM, Tom Vercetti said:

A reverse Tom experience.

 

Bluff being #2 of the year and only a little over a minute long, her power 

 

Only track here i'm unaware of here ironically is from the Diplomats . Lemme take a peek. Nice top 10 ofc.

 

Tell me about it, almost regretted my Kendrick choice. 

It's still one of the best tracks on DAMN. No love lost.

On 12/28/2017 at 11:49 PM, Ewan Chaos said:

Wow rap did win I guess

 

 

I love Vince that's for sure, and that's a great pick. Same for Kelela, War on Drugs, The National, Perfume Genius, & LCD (I really love tonite, glad everyone else does too).

 

Gonna touch a bit on the previous songs too - Banana Clip is amazing. My fave non single from the record. "ahahaha" so goooooood!

Wow, serving taste.

On 12/29/2017 at 1:05 AM, Staryu said:

Wow you really stanned Jay this year  Kelela at #2 tho

He came through, he got the dragging of his life when Magna Carter came out though.

On 12/29/2017 at 10:14 AM, Playa Playa said:

Great Top 10 

 

The Story of OJ and 4:44 are definitely the two best songs that embody Hov's great return to form. I love that it's placed alongside Crew, 745, and Once Upon a Time too. The diversity in rap!

 

Bluff deserves it. I know it's not malicious (well I hope not) but when people try to downplay how R&B she is <<< I love that she claims it and gives us gems like Bluff, SOS, Altadena, etc 

The hip thing to do is downplay R&B as a genre that doesn't allow for 'real artistry'. Which is quite funny. None of these alt R&B joints are half as good as the 'traditional R&B/Soul' of the 70s. They keep trying it though.

On 12/29/2017 at 11:11 AM, theblackestday said:

745  Bluff has always been my favorite on TMA initially which I was really mad over cause it's literally one minute, but thankfully I love the entire album quite equally now. Glad to see it getting some recognition  the greatest one minute of music ever composed/produced/sung/etc.

 

4:44 is an excellent #1

 

TASTE

[Wicked]

1 hour ago, MP2K said:

Drowning is a song I really grew to like. He's from my hometown and all the kids/people were talking about him and was just like meh. That's still probably the only song I will listen to from him lol
Undercover got hate, from where? I did snub it this year though. I do love me some Susanne.
I just discovered Alterlife and I'm pissed, I use.
Chanel, Banana Clip + FriendZone
That top 10 tbh is great

I'm gaging at Diplomats but listening to it, it's really good.

You're from HB At least there's relevant BX names this year. My sides haven't been relevant since Bobby Shmurda went to prison + Troy Ave tried to assassinate someone

 

That site they praise on here, The Singles Jukebox slammed it. I've also seen some other places say it's just a weak Kate Bush attempt.

 

It's way better than Salute, they should've released it earlier or maybe put someone young on it like Boogie maybe.

[Wicked]

Okay nvm, update tomorrow.later. 10 albums, all EPs, 10 shows + the rest of the films

[Pink Matter]

Lmao I just heard that The Diplomats song. I knew when it opened with them singing Oh Happy Day it would be dope. It's a good song though. Definitely get CD era Ye vibes from it.

[madonnas]

WAIT I never actually listened to 4:44  

Feels like Heaven and Tonite r great, and I def need to get into GoldLink now...

[SLIME]

Dad rap winning over dad rock love the Bluff shout. still feels weird to me seeing people complain about Gold not blowing up, cuz in the DMV it really did but he did that, best song in the top 10

[Wicked]

 

35. Shameless (Showtime)

 

 

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Kind of wish this had kept of it's streak from the opening episodes of the current season, which was the best the show had been since S4. It has nosedived recently and I would've put this lower if I could. tbh take the characters out of their misery and end the series. When Frank is the only one progressing it's time to call it quits. This family dramadey become one of my instant favorites for it's honest portrayal of a dysfunctional family while simultaneously showcasing a lower middle class group of people (if you haven't noticed, almost everyone on TV has infinite funds lol)

 

Best Episodes: 'God Bless Her Rotting Soul', 'We Become What We... Frank!'

34. This Is Us (NBC)

 

 

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As usual Randall & Jack are the best parts of the show still but the writers stalling on Jack's fate, and still kind of having Kevin in a rut it annoying. Still, it's a good show and while it does tug at the heartstrings a bit, they've settled into being able to tell stories without so much emotional manipulation. The surprisingly innovative take on the family drama is still something I feel is important to have during Peak TV. It's a break from the sometimes downright depressing & grimm shows that are popular. A final upside is... I am starting to care about Kevin!

 

Best Episodes: 'Number Three', 'A Manny-Splendored Thing', 'Brothers', 'Number One'

 

33. The Girlfriend Experience (Starz!)

 

 

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While not quite as riveting as S1, S2 of this anthology series focuses on call girls (escorts) was fine. S2 was a change in the shows structure, displaying 2 parallel storylines. I gravitated more to the secondary plot: 'Bria' a lot more as it was better written and felt more inspired as a whole. Erica & Anna wasn't bad, but after the first few really good episodes things starting getting weird and quite frankly didn't make any sense/ What became clear at the end of the season was Amy Seimetz was most likely the meat of what made S1 so good.

 

Best Episodes: 'Erica & Anna: Leverage', 'Bria: Moral Inventory', 'Bria: Living Like a Tornado', 'Erica & Anna: Citizens First'

 

32.Skam (NRK)

 

 

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The best teen Drama this side of Friday Night Lights, Skam was a joy to watch. Finally... A show about teens FROM teens STARRING teens. Each season focuses on a different character, and its fourth & final season focuses on Sana. What makes this special is that Sana is a non-white Muslim girl living in Norway which is an extreme rarity. It explores her struggle with her religion trying to balance that with her social life & romantic life. While there were a few things I didn't fancy, it was still damn good. There's going to be a U.S. version of the series rand & written by the creator of the original Norwegian version, here's to hoping it's just as great + unique.

 

Best Episodes: 'Allah Would've Loved You', 'If You Are Sad, I'm Sad', 'The Biggest Losers at School', 'Thanks For Everything'

31. Silicon Valley (HBO)

 

 

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idc about the criticisms. This season of the Tech industry satire was still pretty hilarious, even if it does feel like structurally the story is going in circles. Mike Judge hears that and I'm not really worried about the upcoming season. The guys ended up going into a partnership with the 'big bad' of season 1-3, which was an interesting choice. There's been noticeable character growth in the lead Richard, which I'm also looking forward to see where it goes. But the best thing about S4 was the expanded banter of Dinesh & Gilfoyle, Jian Yang & even more iconic dialogue from Jared. A character that was always the weakest link was fired written out of the show and I'm really glad he was. With that major change, I'm expecting big things for S5. Still one of the funniest shows on air + STILL better than Veep.

 

Best Episodes: 'Terms of Service', 'Intellectual Property', 'The Blood Boy'

30. Dear White People (Netflix)

 

 

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I'll start by saying I didn't **** with the film... At all. I felt it was a little too much, heavy handed and just not that well written. The series corrects all of the films mistakes. The show isn't about giving white people lessons on the insensitive things tey say or do, it's focused on the students of color at a university that has a lot of racial tension and how each character deals with that individually. You have some militant characters, that want to fight over all injustice no matter how big and small, and you also have those that want to infiltrate into systems of power and shake things up from the inside. The show (thankfully) doesn't try to paint one side as more 'right' than the other, but rather how the conflicts between those with different ideologies should instead work together rather put each other down. The show also goes to give great commentary on common issues relevant in the black community. Light vs Dark, intersectionality, interracial dating & more. But it also had it's lighter moments & could be extremely humorous when not talking about race. Let's hope S2 doesn't **** everything up.

 

Best Episodes: 'Chapter V', 'Chapter IX', 'Chapter X'

 

29. Mr. Robot (USA Network)

 

 

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It's quite sad how Mr. Robot had it's best season this year but because of the way S2 was, a lot of people dropped it to never return. Consistent, riveting, daring & strong. It seems like this is a low spot but in a great year for good-great TV it's not a slight. I'll be interested to see where they go in S4, given how S3 ended. I'm kind of hoping Sam & the crew take 2018 off.

 

Best Episodes: 'eps3.4_runtime-error.r00', 'eps3.5_kill-process.inc', 'shutdown -r'

 

28. Fargo (FX)

 

 

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One of the pretty much agreed upon essentials of 'Peak TV', Fargo returned for it's first less than exceptional season. While it was still very good, great even there was more familiarity here than the previous 2 seasons of the acclaimed anthology black comedy. That hurt it a bit, but in ways it was still just as great as ever, especially when it came to it's villain, the "iconic" death scene, and the marvelous closing episodes of the season. Fargo won't be back anytime soon for S4, which will probably be a good thing. What made Fargo S2 so great was how different it was from S1 while still carrying a similar tone & being connected. I believe Noah Hawley has the tools to do a repeat of that, so I'll still be anticipating it's next installment.

 

Best Episodes: 'Aporia', 'The Lord of No Mercy', 'The Law of Non-Contradiction'

27. Mike Judge Presents: Tales From the Tour Bus (Cinemax)

 

 

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Mike Judge doesn't really fail like that with animation, this is one of the best new series of the year. Pretty different in format from what he's done previously, as each episode is telling a different story about a (real) lesser known Country artist (I know, this sounds boring as ****) but all the Mike Judge trademarks are there: Crude yet 'intelligent' humor, humility & exceptional storytelling. Mike Judge animation mainly focuses on Southern life, often a satirical take on it while still being respectful of the culture which can often be very hard to accomplish, but one of the geniuses of Comedy continues to pull it off. I can't wait for more.

 

Best Episodes: 'Billy Joe Shaver', 'Blaze Foley'

26. The New Edition Story (BET)

 

 

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The surprise of the year for me a was a surprisingly honest & well made bio-mini series about the R&B group New Edition. Biopics/Series, are a tricky thing to get 'right'. Sometimes done too soon (Tupac), aren't respectful to the artist (that Whitney mess AND Tupac) or aren't very... Honest (Aaliyah). While we obviously don't know the raw details of everything that happens behind the scenes, New Edition has always had controversial reports apparently in their heyday. And from what I know, that was portrayed accurately here. All the guys were fortunately apart of its creation as well, so hats off to them for allowing their dirty laundry to be aired. I can't forget the musical performances in the films that were absolutely killer. I hope BET does more like this, I do know a Jodeci film or series is in the works and if they do my babies wrong I will end their asses.

 

Best Episodes: There's only three, but Episode 2 is the best.

 

Edited January 3, 2018 by Wicked

[Wicked]

 

19. 坂本龍一 [Ryuichi Sakamoto] - async

 

Ambient
Modern Classical, Electroacoustic, Field Recordings

 

 

I'm surprised at some dislike about this album, the study album of 2017 for me! Although I prefer when Sakamoto is more upbeat, still pretty great compositions here.

 

18. Ariel Pink - Dedicated to Bobby Jameson

 

Hypnagogic Pop, Psychedelic Pop
New Wave

 

 

Firstly, this is one of the best covers of the year. Even though this is one of his weaker post-Before Today efforts, I still messed with it heavily. At many times, Pop gets no better when penned by AP. He's kind of been on and off for a while, so odds are the next album will be a (cult) classic like hopefully pom pom will be.

 

17. John Maus - Screen Memories

 

Hypnagogic Pop, Synthpop
Minimal Synth, Post-Punk

 

 

While not as memorable as his previous efforts, once again I still really enjoyed it. Not much to really dislike.

 

16. Susanne Sundfør - Music for People in Trouble

 

Art Pop
Chamber Folk, Ambient Pop, Contemporary Folk, Progressive Pop

 

 

Is it just me or does the whole tone of this album fit perfectly with the downright depressing state that was 2017? The more "avant garde" (I hate using this term but it applies) tracks offer a good balance so that the emotional state of the album doesn't get too overwhelming. I'd probably say this is Susanne's best album, and I'm sure I'll get more fond of it the more I listen to it.

 

[Maddox]

5 hours ago, Wicked said:

A final upside is... I am starting to care about Kevin!

HOW? The more i went through the second season the less i seemed to care abt him, stupid entitled man-child.

 

I hope Joelle gets more exposure than being "the bestie"; she's one of the best charcaters on DWP

 

Haven't finished Tales From the Tour Bus but the "Johnny Paycheck" story was crazy  

 

Mr Robot   Silicon Valley was on point this year despite the overall indifference from critics

 

Wait @ you still checking on Shameless  

[Navyofbadgals]

Susanne  

[Allstar]

6 hours ago, Wicked said:

 

35. Shameless (Showtime)

 

 

34. This Is Us (NBC)

 

 

 

33. The Girlfriend Experience (Starz!)

 

 

 

32.Skam (NRK)

 

 

31. Silicon Valley (HBO)

 

 

30. Dear White People (Netflix)

 

 

 

29. Mr. Robot (USA Network)

 

 

 

28. Fargo (FX)

 

 

27. Mike Judge Presents: Tales From the Tour Bus (Cinemax)

 

 

26. The New Edition Story (BET)

 

 

 

Oh bae, ****ing slay me, I couldn't agree more wit most of what you said.

 

Shameless opening episodes this season really were the show's best in years and made me hopeful, along with last season's sincerity and willingness to change, that we might hit some sort of late-game gold mine but LOL, we should have known better.

 

Dear White People, the movie, sucks! The show is good and Barry's episode is one of the best ones this year.

 

Mr Robot really did have its best season! Poor everyone with a hive-mind who missed it!

 

Silicon Valley IS going in circles BUT that makes sense in context of the tech industry that keeps chasing new inventions and discoveries and has to drop the old ones as soon as someone else comes first. HOWEVER, it's a show's job to not make that seem repetitive or justify its narrative repetition and still get some meat out of that. I did like this season but when you have something as brilliant as Halt and Catch Fire being able to capture the humane truth in why people in tech keep running in circles I'm not sure Silicon Valley has any excuses anymore but it still works as a comedy so.

Edited January 3, 2018 by Allstar

[Topmaster 2]

This Is God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Tom Vercetti]

Nice album Set.

Watched The New Edition thing a while ago and it was appropriate. Didn't feel cheap or phoned in either. 

[Playa Playa]

Two great lists!

 

I'm one of them that missed out on Mr. Robot's third season  Oh well, I'll have to catch up before it returns.

 

And this is why I hate setting a number for ranked lists because I can't make room. The New Edition Story was really good and deserves a very honourable mention from me. I can't wait for the Bobby Brown solo one and I also hope BET makes it their "thing". That's a lot to want from just 1 success lol but I feel like the rest will be just as good. A lot of interesting stories from R&B and hip-hop stars to adapt. More roles for overlooked Black performers too!

 

The OPN remix of "Andata" is amazing Kinda missed out on the album tho, but Music for People in Trouble is great.

[Pink Matter]

Music wise, cool set. Only listened to the Ariel Pink and Susanne records and Susanne's is my favorite here. I pretty much agree with your comments on the album, but the album wasn't something that I could come back to frequently  

[madonnas]

MFPIT is great, glad u like it.

I don't think the Ariel album will reach the levels of cult-dom as pom pom will though, no not even close!

 

[Wicked]

On 1/1/2018 at 0:07 PM, Pink Matter said:

Lmao I just heard that The Diplomats song. I knew when it opened with them singing Oh Happy Day it would be dope. It's a good song though. Definitely get CD era Ye vibes from it.

SO GOOD

On 1/1/2018 at 2:09 PM, madonnas said:

WAIT I never actually listened to 4:44  

Feels like Heaven and Tonite r great, and I def need to get into GoldLink now...

Well... There's no time the present.

On 1/2/2018 at 1:47 PM, Kang. said:

Dad rap winning over dad rock love the Bluff shout. still feels weird to me seeing people complain about Gold not blowing up, cuz in the DMV it really did but he did that, best song in the top 10

It was pretty big here too but I wanted it to be the smash multi-week #1 (that has atrl pressed) like Black Beatles + B&B. We can't always get what we want.mp3

19 hours ago, Maddox said:

HOW? The more i went through the second season the less i seemed to care abt him, stupid entitled man-child.

 

I hope Joelle gets more exposure than being "the bestie"; she's one of the best charcaters on DWP

 

Haven't finished Tales From the Tour Bus but the "Johnny Paycheck" story was crazy  

 

Mr Robot   Silicon Valley was on point this year despite the overall indifference from critics

 

Wait @ you still checking on Shameless  

I can sympathize with Kevin to a degree now after Number One. TFTB was great, finish it! Shameless crashed & burned this season already like a bad accident

18 hours ago, Navyofbadgals said:

Susanne  

Indeed!

18 hours ago, Allstar said:

Oh bae, ****ing slay me, I couldn't agree more wit most of what you said.

 

Shameless opening episodes this season really were the show's best in years and made me hopeful, along with last season's sincerity and willingness to change, that we might hit some sort of late-game gold mine but LOL, we should have known better.

 

Dear White People, the movie, sucks! The show is good and Barry's episode is one of the best ones this year.

 

Mr Robot really did have its best season! Poor everyone with a hive-mind who missed it!

 

Silicon Valley IS going in circles BUT that makes sense in context of the tech industry that keeps chasing new inventions and discoveries and has to drop the old ones as soon as someone else comes first. HOWEVER, it's a show's job to not make that seem repetitive or justify its narrative repetition and still get some meat out of that. I did like this season but when you have something as brilliant as Halt and Catch Fire being able to capture the humane truth in why people in tech keep running in circles I'm not sure Silicon Valley has any excuses anymore but it still works as a comedy so.

Truth about Shameless This Svetlana BS is the worst thing that happened to the show too. Everyone loves Halt and Catch Fire but I missed out on it

18 hours ago, Topmaster 2 said:

This Is God >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

If your avatar from Future Man?

14 hours ago, Tom Vercetti said:

Nice album Set.

Watched The New Edition thing a while ago and it was appropriate. Didn't feel cheap or phoned in either. 

Glad you enjoyed it!

14 hours ago, Playa Playa said:

Two great lists!

 

I'm one of them that missed out on Mr. Robot's third season  Oh well, I'll have to catch up before it returns.

 

And this is why I hate setting a number for ranked lists because I can't make room. The New Edition Story was really good and deserves a very honourable mention from me. I can't wait for the Bobby Brown solo one and I also hope BET makes it their "thing". That's a lot to want from just 1 success lol but I feel like the rest will be just as good. A lot of interesting stories from R&B and hip-hop stars to adapt. More roles for overlooked Black performers too!

 

The OPN remix of "Andata" is amazing Kinda missed out on the album tho, but Music for People in Trouble is great.

It did air in January, I'm not surprised people forgot about it. Mr. Robot should def be on list for catching up. They can never go wrong with the biopics as long as they about it the same way they did for TNES. There's plenty of young talent as performers, writers & directors to do good.

8 hours ago, Pink Matter said:

Music wise, cool set. Only listened to the Ariel Pink and Susanne records and Susanne's is my favorite here. I pretty much agree with your comments on the album, but the album wasn't something that I could come back to frequently  

It is kinda overwhelming butit can make a great rainy day album, or for a snow day.

32 minutes ago, madonnas said:

MFPIT is great, glad u like it.

I don't think the Ariel album will reach the levels of cult-dom as pom pom will though, no not even close!

 

Not this one, the next one he releases if he keeps following this pattern tho