official chart Billboard Charts (October 1-7, 2017)

[Pacaveli]

@simmnfierzig Predictions for I Get The Bag by Gucci Mane featuring Migos?  

[brainmaniac]

18 hours ago, Green said:

 

They were so biased against John Legend, especially when his version outsold the original.

 

 

 

So what will Billboard say now after Beyoncé is credited for Mi Gente?   They are so inconsistent with their own rules.

So the latest policy is to not credit featured artists for remix spikes even if the remix has more points apparently?

 

Beyonce's remix won't get more points than the original 

And yet she will still be credited next week? 

 

A corrupt mess

 

Edited October 3, 2017 by brainmaniac

[brainmaniac]

20 minutes ago, slw84 said:

That makes sense because people kept on talking about the sales and I'm thinking the remix clearly is outselling the original.

 

I doubt radio airplay would count but i could see streaming counted along with sales because airplay will always make it harder for the remixed version if the original is already getting consistent airplay

It's supposed to be the version with more overall points that gets the credit, not just more sales points

[B-Rabbit]

I Fall Apart with a debut of #65. Pretty incredible for an almost year old song 

[itsjem]

I remember to have read somewhere that since a couple years ago the remix artist would be credited only if the remix has more points than the original for several weeks! 

[Just a Gay on ATRL]

Rockstar's lead on US Spotify is insane. Once he releases a video, #1 on lock. Maybe even before that.

[simmnfierzig]

45 minutes ago, Pacaveli said:

@simmnfierzig Predictions for I Get The Bag by Gucci Mane featuring Migos?  

Working on full predictions for later today

[World Eater]

Glad that Feel It Still is doing well

[Armani?]

30 minutes ago, brainmaniac said:

So the latest policy is to not credit featured artists for remix spikes even if the remix has more points apparently?

 

Beyonce's remix won't get more points than the original 

And yet she will still be credited next week? 

 

A corrupt mess

 

Get over it

[brainmaniac]

1 minute ago, asanders10795544 said:

Get over it

Glad you're okay with her getting the undeserved credit 

[Armani?]

Just now, brainmaniac said:

Glad you're okay with her getting the undeserved credit 

You don't even know if the Remix won't maintain a lot of points

[brainmaniac]

2 minutes ago, asanders10795544 said:

You don't even know if the Remix won't maintain a lot of points

Simm's predictions are usually spot on 

 

And they've already entered her name in the system in anticipation for next week before the tracking week even ends .

She's likely getting credited no matter what  

 

[Armani?]

Just now, brainmaniac said:

Simm's predictions are usually spot on 

 

And they've already entered her name in the system in anticipation for next week before the tracking week even ends .

She's likely getting credited no matter what  

 

As she should

 

Without her, it would just peak at #19

[brainmaniac]

Just now, asanders10795544 said:

As she should

 

Without her, it would just peak at #19

We don't know how high the song would have peaked without her. It's not like the song was already dead and she gave it a repeak. It was still growing on its own healthy without her 

 

And anyway that's besides the point lol. The version with the most points is supposed to be the version credited, and that doesn't seem to be happening here 

[Armani?]

@simmnfierzig

Did Kworb combine Youtube streams for both versions?

 

I saw it rise to #3  the other day, but didn't see the remix. Pretty wierd

[Armani?]

Just now, brainmaniac said:

We don't know how high the song would have peaked without her. It's not like the song was already dead and she gave it a repeak. It was still growing on its own healthy without her 

 

And anyway that's besides the point lol. The version with the most points is supposed to be the version credited, and that doesn't seem to be happening here 

No, it had already peaked.

 

Radio was peaking it. It already peaked on Spotify and digital sales had peaked

 

[simmnfierzig]

5 minutes ago, asanders10795544 said:

@simmnfierzig

Did Kworb combine Youtube streams for both versions?

 

I saw it rise to #3  the other day, but didn't see the remix. Pretty wierd

Kworb doesn't combine anything

 

YouTube apparently combined both, yes. Despacito is combined too

[brainmaniac]

4 minutes ago, asanders10795544 said:

No, it had already peaked.

 

Radio was peaking it. It already peaked on Spotify and digital sales had peaked

 

The song was still seeing audience gains before the remix. It's not like it was free falling on radio. 

[Armani?]

Just now, brainmaniac said:

The song was still seeing audience gains before the remix. It's not like it was free falling on radio. 

"Peaking", not peaked

[brainmaniac]

Just now, asanders10795544 said:

"Peaking", not peaked

Those audience gains weren't miniscule like a 0.02 lol. Until there's a free fall, you can never be a hundred percent sure if a song is peaking or not. Songs often seem like they're plateauing and then they start making great gains again 

[simmnfierzig]

10 minutes ago, brainmaniac said:

Those audience gains weren't miniscule like a 0.02 lol. Until there's a free fall, you can never be a hundred percent sure if a song is peaking or not. Songs often seem like they're plateauing and then they start making great gains again 

Like that Logic song for example 

[elemonated]

3 hours ago, simmnfierzig said:

It selling ~60k and the original ~20k

Streaming I think the original will still have more. Remix is doing a bit more on Spotify, but original a lot more on Youtube 

Radio is obviously heavily in favor of the original.

 

But I really don't know what's even taken into the decision. If it's just sales she obviously will be credited. If it's more points overall she shouldn't be

Mediabase shows the remix as the version charting. So she should be credited.

[Mr. Adele]

Please 1-800 keep rising on pop radio  Alessia deserves another #1 on pop radio 

 

I don’t care about overall radio, the song won’t get to #1 there and it won’t get higher than #3 on Billboard.

[simmnfierzig]

Full early predictions

 

1 Bodak Yellow     481  (=)

2 Rockstar     388  (=)

3 Mi Gente     323  (+18)

4 1-800-273-8255     314 (=)  

5 Look What You Made Me Do     308  (-2)

6 Feel It Still     275  (+1)

7 Thunder     263  (+10)

8 Sorry Not Sorry     256 (+2)  

9 Despacito     246  (-4)

10 Unforgettable     245 (-4)  

11 Too Good At Goodbyes     245  (+3)

12 Believer     238  (-4)

13 Rake It Up     233  (-4)

14 Strip That Down     231 (-2)  

15 Attention     218  (-4)

16 What Lovers Do     206 (+4)  

17 Bank Account     205  (-2)

18 Slow Hands     194  (-5)

19 There's Nothing Holdin Me Back     189  (-3)

20 Shape Of You     185  (-1)

 

21 Wild Thoughts     176  (-3)

22 That's What I Like     168  (=)

23 I Get The Bag     158  (=)

24 Humble     158  (+4)

25 Praying     156  (-1)

26 Young Dumb & Broke     155  (-1)

27 What About Us     151  (+2)

28 Havana     143  (+16)

29 XO Tour Lif3     141  (-2)

30 Body Like A Back Road     141  (-4)

31 Love Galore     141  (+1)

32 Something Just Like This     137  (-2)

33 What Ifs     137  (-2)

34 Location     132  (-1)

35 Congratulations     131 (=)  

36 New Rules     125  (+12)

37 Perfect     124  (+21)

38 Gucci Gang     122  (+14)

39 No Promises     118  (+2)

40 Say You Won't Let Go     114  (-6)

 

41 When It Rains It Pours     114  (-1)

42 Redbone     112  (+1)

43 Crew      111  (+2)

44 Loyalty     111  (-6)

45 The Weekend     110 (+5)  

46 Friends     109  (-10)

47 Do Re Mi     109  (-1)

48 Bad At Love     109  (+9)

49 Ready For It     108  (-10)

50 I Fall Apart     108  (+15)

51 Small Town Boy     105  (-14)

52 Butterfly Effect     100  (+2)

53 Unforgettable       99  (-2)

54 Silence       95  (+1)

55 The Way Life Goes       95 (+5)  

56 Glorious       93  (-7)

57 Transportin'       93  (+5)

58 Roll In Peace       92  (+3)

59 The Race       88  (=)

60 Jocelyn Flores       83 (+4)  

 

61 Heartache On The Dance Floor       81  (-5)

62 It's A Vibe       80  (+4)

63 All The Pretty Girls       78 (=) 

64 No Limit       77  (+14)

65 Dusk Till Daw       75  (+4)

66 Feels       75  (-13)

67 Greatest Love Story       71  (+4)

68 Pills & Automobiles       70  (+7)

69 **** Love       69  (-1)

70 Every Little Thing       68  (+2)

71 Say A'       65  (debut)

72 They Don't Know       63 (+1)  

73 Love So Soft       62  (+1)

74 Relationship       58  (+13)

75 B.E.D.       58  (+2)

76 Sauce It Up       56 (+3)  

77 More Girls Like You       56 (+7)  

78 Fix A Drink       56  (+3)

79 Hi Bich       55  (debut)

80 I'll Name The Dogs       55 (+3)  

 

81 Escapate Conmingo       55  (-5)

82 Light It Up       54  (=)

83 DNA       54  (-16)

84 No Promises       53 (debut)  

85 I Could Use A Love Song       51 (+1)  

86 Go Flex       50  (+14)

87 No Such Thing As A Broken Heart       50  (-2)

88 Questions       49  (+3)

89 It Ain't My Fault       48 (=)  

90 Undefeated       46  (debut)

91 Meant To Be       46  (debut)

92 Whatever You Need       45  (-2)

93 Like I Loved You       45  (+2)

94 Let Me Go       45  (re-entry)

95 Lights Down Low       44  (debut)

96 Losing Sleep       44  (-2)

97 Smooth       44  (debut)

98 Round Here Buzz       43 (-1)  

99 Plain Jane        43  (-1)

100 Back To You       43  (-12)

 

Going recurrent:

I'm The One, Stay, Felices Los 4

[Destiny]

Ready for that top 3 peak when Tidal co-operates well...