other stats Witness Tour Boxscores | Pollstar: 76.9M

[DoubleRainbow!]

On 9/19/2019 at 4:47 PM, Rusty said:

Around $83.4M from 94 shows:

 

$28.1M - 42 shows (2017)

$55.3M - 52 shows (2018)

 

There's missing numbers from 19 shows (2 of the 115 total show count weren't scorable), and considering the few self-reported shows to boxscore have just one sold out show for the entire tour, it's unlikely the total goes much higher...

The 6 shows in Mexico were sold-out, many of the European shows were also sold-out 

 

On 9/18/2019 at 11:13 AM, Feanor said:

So what’s the final gross estimate for this tour?

Forbes reported that she grossed around 1 millon per show. 100M is very likely.

[ViviLittleM]

Whatever the gross, I'll always respect Katy for doing real WW tour!

[Feanor]

16 minutes ago, DoubleRainbow! said:

The 6 shows in Mexico were sold-out, many of the European shows were also sold-out 

 

Forbes reported that she grossed around 1 millon per show. 100M is very likely.

100M is a great number

[Rusty]

13 hours ago, DoubleRainbow! said:

The 6 shows in Mexico were sold-out, many of the European shows were also sold-out 

 

Forbes reported that she grossed around 1 millon per show. 100M is very likely.

Her North American shows averaged just $670K per night. $100M is not impossible from the 2018 dates, but almost no reported boxscores don't bode  well for her making it there. Forbes threw out an estimate with no breakdown, just as they did with the Anti Tour. Without averages it's not reliable.

[Merlls]

11 hours ago, Rusty said:

Her North American shows averaged just $670K per night. $100M is not impossible from the 2018 dates, but almost no reported boxscores don't bode  well for her making it there. Forbes threw out an estimate with no breakdown, just as they did with the Anti Tour. Without averages it's not reliable.

?

 

The tour grossed $31.8 million from 30 North American dates reported. That's $1.060 million per night. And she played 52 shows in total.

With all reported dates, it grossed $71 million from 67/113 shows. So if you gonma use averages, then use the right ones.

 

Over $100 million total gross is totally possible and pretty much accurate than this messy estimate by Pollstar used by people to discredit the total revenue.

 

 

[Rusty]

5 minutes ago, merlls said:

?

 

The tour grossed $31.8 million from 30 North American dates reported. That's $1.060 million per night. And she played 52 shows in total.

With all reported dates, it grossed $71 million from 67/113 shows. So if you gonma use averages, then use the right ones.

 

Over $100 million total gross is totally possible and pretty much accurate than this messy estimate by Pollstar used by people to discredit the total revenue.

 

 

Where are these numbers you're getting from? Pollstar show their breakdown of shows per city. They did not report 30 NA dates to Billboard, where were they reported to?! 

[Merlls]

2 hours ago, Rusty said:

Where are these numbers you're getting from? Pollstar show their breakdown of shows per city. They did not report 30 NA dates to Billboard, where were they reported to?! 

You should search deeper and better. Pollstar reported all these dates that I said and the numbers you are saying are estimates from the Year End, and I think that we don't need to remember all the times that they were completely wrong about them. By the way, most of the numbers were reported almost one year after the tour starts.

 

North America
Total Reported Gross: $31,792,203
Total Reported Attendance: 310,943
Average Ticket Price: $102.24
Reported Shows: 30 / 52

Average Gross: $1,059,740

Average Attendance: 10,365

 

September 21, 2017: Mohegan Sun Arena, Uncasville (6,334 – $1,704,881)
September 22, 2017: PPG Paints Arena, Pittsburgh (8,577 – $752,651)
September 25, 2017: Capital One Arena, Washington (11,503 – $1,261,215)
October 2-6, 2017: Madison Square Garden, New York City (21,688 – $2,618,096) (2 shows)
October 8, 2017: Prudential Center, Newark (10,067 – $1,118,597)
October 9, 2017: Videotron Centre, Quebec City (11,798 – $996,542)
October 11, 2017: Barclays Center, Brooklyn (9,055 – $1,002,705)
October 16, 2017: KFC Yum! Center, Louisville (9,192 – $689,988)
October 18, 2017: Bridgestone Arena, Nashville (8,276 – $695,458)
October 27, 2017: Sprint Center, Kansas City (8,507 – $820,925)
November 14, 2017: SAP Center, San Jose (10,770 – $1,211,375)
November 28, 2017: CenturyLink Center, Omaha (10,017 – $769,168)
November 29, 2017: BOK Center, Tulsa (10,243 – $672,842)
December 6, 2017: Little Caesars Arena, Detroit (9,011 – $895,084)
December 9, 2017: Bankers Life Fieldhouse, Indianapolis (9,595 – $871,077)
December 10, 2017: Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland (8,744 – $896,760)
December 12, 2017: Philips Arena, Atlanta (8,782 – $950,017)
December 15, 2017: Amalie Arena, Tampa (9,334 – $981,256)
December 17, 2017: Amway Center, Orlando (10,071 – $1,145,356)
December 20, 2017: AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami (12,754 – $1,570,092)
January 7, 2018: Toyota Center, Houston (9,655 – $1,139,385)
January 12, 2018: Verizon Arena, North Little Rock (10,270 – $793,991)
January 14, 2018: American Airlines Center, Dallas (11,341 – $1,455,098)
January 20, 2018: T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas (12,944 – $1,230,517)
January 31, 2018: Golden 1 Center, Sacramento (10,635 – $1,206,081)
February 2, 2018: Moda Center, Portland (11,756 – $1,144,786)
February 3, 2018: Tacoma Dome, Tacoma (17,136 – $1,436,723)
February 5-6, 2018: Rogers Arena, Vancouver (22,888 – $1,761,537) (2 shows)

 

You can see everything reported here or see by yourself on Pollstar (needs pay for it). If you needed reliable averages HERE IT IS or still think that this tour grossed $10 million from 46 unreported dates?

[DoubleRainbow!]

The way the good sis @merlls ended that lm with actual receipts 

 

We love a 100M grossing tour 

[Rodrighost]

5 hours ago, merlls said:

You should search deeper and better. Pollstar reported all these dates that I said and the numbers you are saying are estimates from the Year End, and I think that we don't need to remember all the times that they were completely wrong about them. By the way, most of the numbers were reported almost one year after the tour starts.

 

North America
Total Reported Gross: $31,792,203
Total Reported Attendance: 310,943
Average Ticket Price: $102.24
Reported Shows: 30 / 52

Average Gross: $1,059,740

Average Attendance: 10,365

 

September 21, 2017: Mohegan Sun Arena, Uncasville (6,334 – $1,704,881)
September 22, 2017: PPG Paints Arena, Pittsburgh (8,577 – $752,651)
September 25, 2017: Capital One Arena, Washington (11,503 – $1,261,215)
October 2-6, 2017: Madison Square Garden, New York City (21,688 – $2,618,096) (2 shows)
October 8, 2017: Prudential Center, Newark (10,067 – $1,118,597)
October 9, 2017: Videotron Centre, Quebec City (11,798 – $996,542)
October 11, 2017: Barclays Center, Brooklyn (9,055 – $1,002,705)
October 16, 2017: KFC Yum! Center, Louisville (9,192 – $689,988)
October 18, 2017: Bridgestone Arena, Nashville (8,276 – $695,458)
October 27, 2017: Sprint Center, Kansas City (8,507 – $820,925)
November 14, 2017: SAP Center, San Jose (10,770 – $1,211,375)
November 28, 2017: CenturyLink Center, Omaha (10,017 – $769,168)
November 29, 2017: BOK Center, Tulsa (10,243 – $672,842)
December 6, 2017: Little Caesars Arena, Detroit (9,011 – $895,084)
December 9, 2017: Bankers Life Fieldhouse, Indianapolis (9,595 – $871,077)
December 10, 2017: Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland (8,744 – $896,760)
December 12, 2017: Philips Arena, Atlanta (8,782 – $950,017)
December 15, 2017: Amalie Arena, Tampa (9,334 – $981,256)
December 17, 2017: Amway Center, Orlando (10,071 – $1,145,356)
December 20, 2017: AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami (12,754 – $1,570,092)
January 7, 2018: Toyota Center, Houston (9,655 – $1,139,385)
January 12, 2018: Verizon Arena, North Little Rock (10,270 – $793,991)
January 14, 2018: American Airlines Center, Dallas (11,341 – $1,455,098)
January 20, 2018: T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas (12,944 – $1,230,517)
January 31, 2018: Golden 1 Center, Sacramento (10,635 – $1,206,081)
February 2, 2018: Moda Center, Portland (11,756 – $1,144,786)
February 3, 2018: Tacoma Dome, Tacoma (17,136 – $1,436,723)
February 5-6, 2018: Rogers Arena, Vancouver (22,888 – $1,761,537) (2 shows)

 

You can see everything reported here or see by yourself on Pollstar (needs pay for it). If you needed reliable averages HERE IT IS or still think that this tour grossed $10 million from 46 unreported dates?

end ha!

 

OT: Katy's best tour yet

[Mokichi]

9 hours ago, merlls said:

You should search deeper and better. Pollstar reported all these dates that I said and the numbers you are saying are estimates from the Year End, and I think that we don't need to remember all the times that they were completely wrong about them. By the way, most of the numbers were reported almost one year after the tour starts.

 

North America
Total Reported Gross: $31,792,203
Total Reported Attendance: 310,943
Average Ticket Price: $102.24
Reported Shows: 30 / 52

Average Gross: $1,059,740

Average Attendance: 10,365

 

September 21, 2017: Mohegan Sun Arena, Uncasville (6,334 – $1,704,881)
September 22, 2017: PPG Paints Arena, Pittsburgh (8,577 – $752,651)
September 25, 2017: Capital One Arena, Washington (11,503 – $1,261,215)
October 2-6, 2017: Madison Square Garden, New York City (21,688 – $2,618,096) (2 shows)
October 8, 2017: Prudential Center, Newark (10,067 – $1,118,597)
October 9, 2017: Videotron Centre, Quebec City (11,798 – $996,542)
October 11, 2017: Barclays Center, Brooklyn (9,055 – $1,002,705)
October 16, 2017: KFC Yum! Center, Louisville (9,192 – $689,988)
October 18, 2017: Bridgestone Arena, Nashville (8,276 – $695,458)
October 27, 2017: Sprint Center, Kansas City (8,507 – $820,925)
November 14, 2017: SAP Center, San Jose (10,770 – $1,211,375)
November 28, 2017: CenturyLink Center, Omaha (10,017 – $769,168)
November 29, 2017: BOK Center, Tulsa (10,243 – $672,842)
December 6, 2017: Little Caesars Arena, Detroit (9,011 – $895,084)
December 9, 2017: Bankers Life Fieldhouse, Indianapolis (9,595 – $871,077)
December 10, 2017: Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland (8,744 – $896,760)
December 12, 2017: Philips Arena, Atlanta (8,782 – $950,017)
December 15, 2017: Amalie Arena, Tampa (9,334 – $981,256)
December 17, 2017: Amway Center, Orlando (10,071 – $1,145,356)
December 20, 2017: AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami (12,754 – $1,570,092)
January 7, 2018: Toyota Center, Houston (9,655 – $1,139,385)
January 12, 2018: Verizon Arena, North Little Rock (10,270 – $793,991)
January 14, 2018: American Airlines Center, Dallas (11,341 – $1,455,098)
January 20, 2018: T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas (12,944 – $1,230,517)
January 31, 2018: Golden 1 Center, Sacramento (10,635 – $1,206,081)
February 2, 2018: Moda Center, Portland (11,756 – $1,144,786)
February 3, 2018: Tacoma Dome, Tacoma (17,136 – $1,436,723)
February 5-6, 2018: Rogers Arena, Vancouver (22,888 – $1,761,537) (2 shows)

 

You can see everything reported here or see by yourself on Pollstar (needs pay for it). If you needed reliable averages HERE IT IS or still think that this tour grossed $10 million from 46 unreported dates?

 

[2AM]

On 9/22/2019 at 4:52 PM, merlls said:

You should search deeper and better. Pollstar reported all these dates that I said and the numbers you are saying are estimates from the Year End, and I think that we don't need to remember all the times that they were completely wrong about them. By the way, most of the numbers were reported almost one year after the tour starts.

 

North America
Total Reported Gross: $31,792,203
Total Reported Attendance: 310,943
Average Ticket Price: $102.24
Reported Shows: 30 / 52

Average Gross: $1,059,740

Average Attendance: 10,365

 

September 21, 2017: Mohegan Sun Arena, Uncasville (6,334 – $1,704,881)
September 22, 2017: PPG Paints Arena, Pittsburgh (8,577 – $752,651)
September 25, 2017: Capital One Arena, Washington (11,503 – $1,261,215)
October 2-6, 2017: Madison Square Garden, New York City (21,688 – $2,618,096) (2 shows)
October 8, 2017: Prudential Center, Newark (10,067 – $1,118,597)
October 9, 2017: Videotron Centre, Quebec City (11,798 – $996,542)
October 11, 2017: Barclays Center, Brooklyn (9,055 – $1,002,705)
October 16, 2017: KFC Yum! Center, Louisville (9,192 – $689,988)
October 18, 2017: Bridgestone Arena, Nashville (8,276 – $695,458)
October 27, 2017: Sprint Center, Kansas City (8,507 – $820,925)
November 14, 2017: SAP Center, San Jose (10,770 – $1,211,375)
November 28, 2017: CenturyLink Center, Omaha (10,017 – $769,168)
November 29, 2017: BOK Center, Tulsa (10,243 – $672,842)
December 6, 2017: Little Caesars Arena, Detroit (9,011 – $895,084)
December 9, 2017: Bankers Life Fieldhouse, Indianapolis (9,595 – $871,077)
December 10, 2017: Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland (8,744 – $896,760)
December 12, 2017: Philips Arena, Atlanta (8,782 – $950,017)
December 15, 2017: Amalie Arena, Tampa (9,334 – $981,256)
December 17, 2017: Amway Center, Orlando (10,071 – $1,145,356)
December 20, 2017: AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami (12,754 – $1,570,092)
January 7, 2018: Toyota Center, Houston (9,655 – $1,139,385)
January 12, 2018: Verizon Arena, North Little Rock (10,270 – $793,991)
January 14, 2018: American Airlines Center, Dallas (11,341 – $1,455,098)
January 20, 2018: T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas (12,944 – $1,230,517)
January 31, 2018: Golden 1 Center, Sacramento (10,635 – $1,206,081)
February 2, 2018: Moda Center, Portland (11,756 – $1,144,786)
February 3, 2018: Tacoma Dome, Tacoma (17,136 – $1,436,723)
February 5-6, 2018: Rogers Arena, Vancouver (22,888 – $1,761,537) (2 shows)

 

You can see everything reported here or see by yourself on Pollstar (needs pay for it). If you needed reliable averages HERE IT IS or still think that this tour grossed $10 million from 46 unreported dates?

Oops  

[Rusty]

On 9/22/2019 at 9:52 PM, merlls said:

You should search deeper and better. Pollstar reported all these dates that I said and the numbers you are saying are estimates from the Year End, and I think that we don't need to remember all the times that they were completely wrong about them. By the way, most of the numbers were reported almost one year after the tour starts.

 

North America
Total Reported Gross: $31,792,203
Total Reported Attendance: 310,943
Average Ticket Price: $102.24
Reported Shows: 30 / 52

Average Gross: $1,059,740

Average Attendance: 10,365

 

September 21, 2017: Mohegan Sun Arena, Uncasville (6,334 – $1,704,881)
September 22, 2017: PPG Paints Arena, Pittsburgh (8,577 – $752,651)
September 25, 2017: Capital One Arena, Washington (11,503 – $1,261,215)
October 2-6, 2017: Madison Square Garden, New York City (21,688 – $2,618,096) (2 shows)
October 8, 2017: Prudential Center, Newark (10,067 – $1,118,597)
October 9, 2017: Videotron Centre, Quebec City (11,798 – $996,542)
October 11, 2017: Barclays Center, Brooklyn (9,055 – $1,002,705)
October 16, 2017: KFC Yum! Center, Louisville (9,192 – $689,988)
October 18, 2017: Bridgestone Arena, Nashville (8,276 – $695,458)
October 27, 2017: Sprint Center, Kansas City (8,507 – $820,925)
November 14, 2017: SAP Center, San Jose (10,770 – $1,211,375)
November 28, 2017: CenturyLink Center, Omaha (10,017 – $769,168)
November 29, 2017: BOK Center, Tulsa (10,243 – $672,842)
December 6, 2017: Little Caesars Arena, Detroit (9,011 – $895,084)
December 9, 2017: Bankers Life Fieldhouse, Indianapolis (9,595 – $871,077)
December 10, 2017: Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland (8,744 – $896,760)
December 12, 2017: Philips Arena, Atlanta (8,782 – $950,017)
December 15, 2017: Amalie Arena, Tampa (9,334 – $981,256)
December 17, 2017: Amway Center, Orlando (10,071 – $1,145,356)
December 20, 2017: AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami (12,754 – $1,570,092)
January 7, 2018: Toyota Center, Houston (9,655 – $1,139,385)
January 12, 2018: Verizon Arena, North Little Rock (10,270 – $793,991)
January 14, 2018: American Airlines Center, Dallas (11,341 – $1,455,098)
January 20, 2018: T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas (12,944 – $1,230,517)
January 31, 2018: Golden 1 Center, Sacramento (10,635 – $1,206,081)
February 2, 2018: Moda Center, Portland (11,756 – $1,144,786)
February 3, 2018: Tacoma Dome, Tacoma (17,136 – $1,436,723)
February 5-6, 2018: Rogers Arena, Vancouver (22,888 – $1,761,537) (2 shows)

 

You can see everything reported here or see by yourself on Pollstar (needs pay for it). If you needed reliable averages HERE IT IS or still think that this tour grossed $10 million from 46 unreported dates?

This is literally estimated numbers on a wordpress blog that shows explicitly they use other’s numbers and extrapolate and make up the rest. The dates weren’t reported, Pollstar clearly shows 19 shows were missing from their total estimate of $83.4M. The fanblog you posted literally had fewer show numbers than Pollstar claim  

 

All else is made up. But glad the Kats found a bull**** stat to make the Witness era somehow seem like it wasn’t the biggest bomb by a major artist this decade. 

Edited September 25, 2019 by Rusty

[CovalentBondage]

Would touringdata.wordpress.com/2018/10/04/katy-perry-witness-the-tour/ lie?

[Merlls]

3 hours ago, Rusty said:

This is literally estimated numbers on a wordpress blog that shows explicitly they use other’s numbers and extrapolate and make up the rest. The dates weren’t reported, Pollstar clearly shows 19 shows were missing from their total estimate of $83.4M. The fanblog you posted literally had fewer show numbers than Pollstar claim  

 

All else is made up. But glad the Kats found a bull**** stat to make the Witness era somehow seem like it wasn’t the biggest bomb by a major artist this decade. 

You still trying this  

 

I literally said that these boxscores came straight from Pollstar, I only posted the site because they have all numbers reported there and we don't have here on this thread. I will say again, because maybe you're slow, but the numbers you're saying are all estimates from the Year End exclusively cause when they did the list they only had like 7-10 dates. You can see that Pollstar have 65 reported dates here and 1 were reported to Billboard.

 

 

 

And again: You can literally see this whenever you want, but you have to pay for it. So if you don't wanna do that, don't go ahead. It's not that hard to understand is it  

 

Can you come up with something else?

[Mokichi]

3 hours ago, merlls said:

You still trying this  

 

I literally said that these boxscores came straight from Pollstar, I only posted the site because they have all numbers reported there and we don't have here on this thread. I will say again, because maybe you're slow, but the numbers you're saying are all estimates from the Year End exclusively cause when they did the list they only had like 7-10 dates. You can see that Pollstar have 65 reported dates here and 1 were reported to Billboard.

 

 

 

And again: You can literally see this whenever you want, but you have to pay for it. So if you don't wanna do that, don't go ahead. It's not that hard to understand is it  

 

Can you come up with something else?

Educate them!

The blind hate is really concerning, hope they get a treatement this is sad!

[Rev8]

So it's 77m?

[Rusty]

5 hours ago, merlls said:

You still trying this  

 

I literally said that these boxscores came straight from Pollstar, I only posted the site because they have all numbers reported there and we don't have here on this thread. I will say again, because maybe you're slow, but the numbers you're saying are all estimates from the Year End exclusively cause when they did the list they only had like 7-10 dates. You can see that Pollstar have 65 reported dates here and 1 were reported to Billboard.

 

 

This is literally horse ****.

 

Pollstar have 65 reported dates and that blog with its 67 (of which you're saying 65 are Pollstar) tally to $71M. Pollstar's year-end for 2018 alongside 2017 estimate for 94 dates tally $83.4M. The random 'they had like 7-10 shows' is likely a wild guess at best from you/Katy stans to explain away the catastrophic performance of the NA leg.

 

So you're left with picking:

Option one: $71M based on reported shows,

 

Option two: $83.4M Pollstar YEC tally to between the 2017 + 2018.

 

Anything else is literally a fan-made estimate based on nothing.

[Merlls]

46 minutes ago, Rusty said:

This is literally horse ****.

 

Pollstar have 65 reported dates and that blog with its 67 (of which you're saying 65 are Pollstar) tally to $71M. Pollstar's year-end for 2018 alongside 2017 estimate for 94 dates tally $83.4M. The random 'they had like 7-10 shows' is likely a wild guess at best from you/Katy stans to explain away the catastrophic performance of the NA leg.

 

So you're left with picking:

Option one: $71M based on reported shows,

 

Option two: $83.4M Pollstar YEC tally to between the 2017 + 2018.

 

Anything else is literally a fan-made estimate based on nothing.

Jesus Christ. The London date were never reported to Pollstar.

 

I understood that you don't like her and you clearly don't like the fact that she grossed over $100 million on this tour which flopped in fact, but the way you are completely biased and in denial with real numbers literally in front of you showing otherwise of what you saying is embarrassing.

 

I said twice and I will say again, you can check all of this by yourself on Pollstar after paying for it. I did this and what about you?. You only have this option because I won't educate a blind and convenient hater who will always use understimated figures for someone you hate because you think that you need to dicrease and discredit her numbers to inflate your ego. I posted the same numbers on Pollstar and you still here saying this bull****...

 

Witness: The Tour grossed $71 million from 67 reported shows (missing 46 dates), averaging $1.060 million each night. And quoting you, we need reliable averages, right? So using this (according to you), she grossed $118-120 million based on official figures reported to Billboard and Pollstar. Would that please you or will you make another random especulation based on literally nothing? I showed real numbers not especulations and you still on here with nothing. Please check the numbers before coming back.

 

What kind of monster no sense is this?

[DoubleRainbow!]

10 hours ago, Rusty said:

This is literally estimated numbers on a wordpress blog that shows explicitly they use other’s numbers and extrapolate and make up the rest. The dates weren’t reported, Pollstar clearly shows 19 shows were missing from their total estimate of $83.4M. The fanblog you posted literally had fewer show numbers than Pollstar claim  

 

All else is made up. But glad the Kats found a bull**** stat to make the Witness era somehow seem like it wasn’t the biggest bomb by a major artist this decade. 

Show your true colors, girl...

 

The fact that this user has been clocked so many times with actual receipts but she's still trying it 

[Rusty]

21 hours ago, DoubleRainbow! said:

Show your true colors, girl...

 

The fact that this user has been clocked so many times with actual receipts but she's still trying it 

They don't exist. I know Oblivia is where Kats feel safe, but come back to reality. It may not be 2013, but give it a try.

 

21 hours ago, merlls said:

Jesus Christ. The London date were never reported to Pollstar.

 

I understood that you don't like her and you clearly don't like the fact that she grossed over $100 million on this tour which flopped in fact, but the way you are completely biased and in denial with real numbers literally in front of you showing otherwise of what you saying is embarrassing.

 

I said twice and I will say again, you can check all of this by yourself on Pollstar after paying for it. I did this and what about you?. You only have this option because I won't educate a blind and convenient hater who will always use understimated figures for someone you hate because you think that you need to dicrease and discredit her numbers to inflate your ego. I posted the same numbers on Pollstar and you still here saying this bull****...

 

Witness: The Tour grossed $71 million from 67 reported shows (missing 46 dates), averaging $1.060 million each night. And quoting you, we need reliable averages, right? So using this (according to you), she grossed $118-120 million based on official figures reported to Billboard and Pollstar. Would that please you or will you make another random especulation based on literally nothing? I showed real numbers not especulations and you still on here with nothing. Please check the numbers before coming back.

 

What kind of monster no sense is this?

This is a giant essay in which say you don't have any numbers other than $71M or $84.3M, both of which are Pollstar, and both of which are all that's available. In the same breath you dismiss the latter estimate because of its source, yet extrapolate from the same source to a made up $100M+ number.

 

Just because you use a fan blog for stats doesn't make it accurate (especially considering how varied the boxscores for shows did on this tour did).

 

To conclude, the my first comment with the highest broken-down estimate from a source:

 

On 9/19/2019 at 10:47 PM, Rusty said:

Around $83.4M from 94 shows

 

$28.1M - 42 shows (2017)

$55.3M - 52 shows (2018)

 

[Merlls]

2 minutes ago, Rusty said:

 

This is a giant essay in which say you don't have any numbers other than $71M or $84.3M, both of which are Pollstar, and both of which are all that's available. In the same breath you dismiss the latter estimate because of its source, yet extrapolate from the same source to a made up $100M+ number.

 

Just because you use a fan blog for stats doesn't make it accurate (especially considering how varied the boxscores for shows did on this tour did).

 

To conclude, the my first comment with the highest broken-down estimate from a source:

 

 

Oh, seems like you pressed because your lies were exposed. You still didn't checked on Pollstar? I'm still waiting for it. I showed proves and you still on here telling lies. I mean WHY

 

So far, I didn't even mentioned the estimate, so stop it lol I only posted the boxscores that you lied about telling that she averaged $670,000 per night when there is not a single boxscore in North America with less than that, and you still didn't prove it. Stop making this about a blog who reports reliable numbers from real sources to make it less accurate and changing facts.

How many times do I have to tell you that the numbers are from Pollstar, a main source, which convenitialy you use to get a completely non-real number just because you don't like her You lost and now are embarassing yourself.

 

You literally said that we need reliable averages, and I came with reliable averages. What's wrong? You suddenly changed your mind when the real numbers came out.  Witness: The Tour grossed $71 million from 67 reported dates (missing 46 dates). Average gross: $1.060 million. So why do you need to tell people lies when we have all of this saying otherwise? who are you trying to fool here, girl...

[DoubleRainbow!]

On 9/25/2019 at 2:27 PM, Rev8 said:

So it's 77m?

83M from 94 shows

with 21 unreported shows, most from 2018, grossing 1M per night, would bring a total of around 104M 

 

Forbes saying that every show from 2018 year made 1M per night is more reliable than a biased little monster making up numbers 

[Gaia]

On 9/25/2019 at 2:46 PM, Rusty said:

This is literally horse ****.

 

Pollstar have 65 reported dates and that blog with its 67 (of which you're saying 65 are Pollstar) tally to $71M. Pollstar's year-end for 2018 alongside 2017 estimate for 94 dates tally $83.4M. The random 'they had like 7-10 shows' is likely a wild guess at best from you/Katy stans to explain away the catastrophic performance of the NA leg.

 

So you're left with picking:

Option one: $71M based on reported shows,

 

Option two: $83.4M Pollstar YEC tally to between the 2017 + 2018.

 

Anything else is literally a fan-made estimate based on nothing.

You’re literally so invested and know 10x more about the witness tour than an average Kat. That’s... sad...don’t you think?

 

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I cant believe people are still even arguing about anything related to the witness era

[Rusty]

8 hours ago, merlls said:

Oh, seems like you pressed because your lies were exposed. You still didn't checked on Pollstar? I'm still waiting for it. I showed proves and you still on here telling lies. I mean WHY

 

So far, I didn't even mentioned the estimate, so stop it lol I only posted the boxscores that you lied about telling that she averaged $670,000 per night when there is not a single boxscore in North America with less than that, and you still didn't prove it. Stop making this about a blog who reports reliable numbers from real sources to make it less accurate and changing facts.

How many times do I have to tell you that the numbers are from Pollstar, a main source, which convenitialy you use to get a completely non-real number just because you don't like her You lost and now are embarassing yourself.

 

You literally said that we need reliable averages, and I came with reliable averages. What's wrong? You suddenly changed your mind when the real numbers came out.  Witness: The Tour grossed $71 million from 67 reported dates (missing 46 dates). Average gross: $1.060 million. So why do you need to tell people lies when we have all of this saying otherwise? who are you trying to fool here, girl...

Literally the same essay, in which you act like there's numbers for shows that there isn't. The $670K per night is Pollstar's own YE average from 2017 (majority of the NA dates). This isn't a lie, the totals are on their site still. 

 

And since it seems you're (to use your term) a little slow, to help you understand: me saying we need reliable numbers for averages means the actual numbers, not made up numbers because you have a portion of the shows.  There's literally another Kat in  here saying it's $104M (based on some Forbes number?  ) while you spout off a cool $120M estimate from a wordpress blog, and yet I'm the one making up numbers  

 

Pollstar YE numbers: $83.4M for 94 shows. The biggest gross and show count we have from source. Oblivia really ****ed you guys up.

 

4 hours ago, Gaia said:

You’re literally so invested and know 10x more about the witness tour than an average Kat. That’s... sad...don’t you think?

 

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I cant believe people are still even arguing about anything related to the witness era

We're on ATRL. **** or get off the pot, acting like stanning is so terrible and yet you're here in the charts section An Oblivia tea.

[Jjang]

10 hours ago, Rusty said:

Literally the same essay, in which you act like there's numbers for shows that there isn't. The $670K per night is Pollstar's own YE average from 2017 (majority of the NA dates). This isn't a lie, the totals are on their site still. 

...And Pollstar is known for significantly under-estimating box scores. For example, they reported $4m average for Taylor's Reputation Tour in Europe when in reality the average was $4.5m 

 

 

Leg 1: North America - $68.7m (9 dates) - (Billboard)

Leg 2: Europe - $24.4m (6 dates) -$4.07m avg. per date - (Pollstar's estimation) which Billboard later corrected into $27m and $4.5m avg. per date.

Leg 3: North America - $11.5m (2 dates) -$5.75m (Billboard)

 

Witness: The Tour grossing $100m+ is highly likely to be accurate.

Edited September 27, 2019 by Jjang
had to add another paragraph