HolyKatyPerry Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 9 minutes ago, J-boy said: Yet Adele's #s are the "standard" thats why... Nobody expected her to pull Adele numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chainsmoker Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) People trying downplay these numbers, when she just did 625k SPS in 2017... Edited September 2, 2017 by Chainsmoker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBJT2786 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 39 minutes ago, Sazare said: Very rude & baseless; there's no need to be negative. Let's get back on topic: wasn't there word this song had the most expensive music video ever? How far will 420k go toward creating a positive ROI? Seems like it'll barely make a dent. It's the first week sis. It'll end up 3xplatinum minimum in the US. Plus the music video is promo. You trying anything to bring this girl down huh? I dont like this girl and hate the song but even I'm not blind to see this is a win for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenofCopyPaste Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Just now, HolyKatyPerry said: Nobody expected her to pull Adele numbers Yes nobody. Im just explaining the low amount of members here thats why because of the lower sales # Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHype. Posted September 2, 2017 Author Share Posted September 2, 2017 16 minutes ago, Kkamjong said: So are you saying Hello would have sold like 2M in 2012 or something. What you're doing is similar to how movies get adjusted for inflation to compare them to recent movies on a more fair basis, BUT it's completely inaccurate. You can compare profit a song made or whatever but you cannot assume more people would have downloaded the song in preveious years. The biggest download week for any song is Hello, from 2015 in a largely declined download market. If people WANT to buy music they will. you can't just say "The market declined by 50% so this song would have sold 50% more" 2 2 This is why y'all need to read before commenting. A page back: 32 minutes ago, iHype. said: And the point of adjusting isn't to claim "it for sure, would've done 1.02 million in 2012". It's to point out how much more impressive it is to do 420K in 2017 than what Shake It Off did in 2014 or WANEGBT did in 2012 given the market change since. 1 The market has declined even for Taylor. I Knew You Were Trouble sold 416,000 first week as a promo single in 2012. Look What You Made Me Do sold 420,000 first week as a lead single, with a radio deal, and a music video in 2017. Are you going to somehow claim Taylor had as much hype with a Red promo single as a new lead single with a radio deal & music video? The market clearly changed. Which is why adjusting to take in the market decay even for a phenomenon like Taylor Swift is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBJT2786 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Chainsmoker said: People trying downplay these numbers, when she just did 625k SPS in 2017... The fact the song will be at least 2x platinum by the end of the month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanderao Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, iHype. said: 420K in 2017s market is equal to: 552K in 2016 737K in 2015 840K in 2014 962K in 2013 1.020m in 2012 Undeniably more impressive than any of her other past leads. Insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyKatyPerry Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Chainsmoker said: People trying downplay these numbers, when she just did 625k SPS in 2017... And that 625k isn't counting YouTube streams which RIAA and Billboard do so it's probably platinum already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leptine Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Amazing result in this climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarus Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Quote She logs about 625k song SPS in its first week. For comparative purposes, Adele's "Hello" (Columbia) did 1.5m SPS in its first week. This was the comparison they used? Which hater wrote this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheetahwings Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 People desperately trying to downplay this She WON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiss It Better Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 wait... 420k pure sales????? WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 420 Queen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dark Age Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 this math isn't accounting for the huge YT numbers at all wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hud Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 hours ago, gimmielove said: Queen of Weed omg yes!! didn't think about this. lemme roll one for the good sis!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dark Age Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 with HDD's audio streaming total of 30.7M, the reported 420k downloads and the first six days of YouTube's US tracking week (41.5M), she's at 72,200,000 streams = 482k units + 420k pure = 902k in SPS. With the last day of YT she'll be at 920k at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletWitch Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Witnessing an unfloppable talent here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddisier Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 LOL at people say this is small in the grand scheme of thing. More like, in the grand scheme of things and compare this to other huge releases in the past few years and adjusting this for the plummeting sales market, this is a HUGE number and a Massive achievement. Only if you put it under the haters microscope lens and compare it with Hello, then you will see it is smaller but that is not the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liberalmusiclover Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 3 hours ago, iHype. said: 420K in 2017s market is equal to: 552K in 2016 737K in 2015 840K in 2014 962K in 2013 1.020m in 2012 Undeniably more impressive than any of her other past leads. Wow. She truly WON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candy Man Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 4 hours ago, iHype. said: 420K in 2017s market is equal to: 552K in 2016 737K in 2015 840K in 2014 962K in 2013 1.020m in 2012 Undeniably more impressive than any of her other past leads. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family.guy123 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, iHype. said: 420K in 2017s market is equal to: 552K in 2016 737K in 2015 840K in 2014 962K in 2013 1.020m in 2012 Undeniably more impressive than any of her other past leads. i don't think it's accurate to just calculate these numbers based on the market decline. (assuming that's what you did). there are other things to consider it's like when people say 25 would've sold like 10 million first week in the states if it was released in 2000. edit: ok **** me i should've read the whole thread Edited September 2, 2017 by family.guy123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBJT2786 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: i don't think it's accurate to just calculate these numbers based on the market decline. (assuming that's what you did). there are other things to consider it's like when people say 25 would've sold like 10 million first week in the states if it was released in 2000. If the retail market in terms of availability back in the 2000 was the same as it is now...actually yea it wouldve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TayDine1989 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Icannot said: 623k--->544k-->420k She's over. Try again, hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Ugh so.close to platinum first week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 4 hours ago, Sazare said: Very rude & baseless; there's no need to be negative. Let's get back on topic: wasn't there word this song had the most expensive music video ever? How far will 420k go toward creating a positive ROI? Seems like it'll barely make a dent. Wtf at the rudest person in this thread complaining. Incredible 4 hours ago, iHype. said: VEVO/YouTube aren't counted. Well it is for RIAA certifications and what else would a sps number for a single be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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