Mattyboy Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Past #1 debuts in 2015, 2016 & 2017: 2015: What Do You Mean? Hello 2016: Pillowtalk CAN’T STOP THE FEELING! 2017: Shape of You I’n the One None debuted early because of airplay, not since Roar & WANEGBT in 2012/2013 before the formula changed. Can someone explain what’s changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSLGNMA Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) Yes. At like number 98. Then she will jump to 1 the following week. Kelly Clarkson is visibly shook. Edit: Opps, I thought the title was "will" not "how". She has broken first day radio record on pop and AC (or HAC?) I believe so she has a bigger start compared to those other number one debuts. Edited August 27, 2017 by TSLGNMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 That above and the formulanwas adjusted to lower streaming slightly making it easier again to debut from airplay. And most of the posted once made bubbling under. So they were close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelegend Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 so despacito’s taking the record ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holiest Dreams Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, adelegend said: so despacito’s taking the record ? Well, it'll tie it. That will happen no matter if Taylor debuts at #1 or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator feelslikeadream Posted August 27, 2017 ATRL Moderator Share Posted August 27, 2017 Talent, that's how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezebelvictoria Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I hope she debuts at #100 and jumps to #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHype. Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 The airplay tracking week being different is so idiotic. If LWYMMD were to debut at #100 or whatever, it wasn't the #100 most popular song the first week it was available. It was obviously much bigger than that. The chart's faulty airplay tracking week messes up the accuracy. LWYMMD was the most popular song the week it debuted. Thus it should be shown as a #1 debut. Not a #100 debut, then rise to #1, which implies it was the #100 most popular track the week it was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyboy Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, iHype. said: The airplay tracking week being different is so idiotic. If LWYMMD were to debut at #100 or whatever, it wasn't the #100 most popular song the first week it was available. It was obviously much bigger than that. The chart's faulty airplay tracking week messes up the accuracy. LWYMMD was the most popular song the week it debuted. Thus it should be shown as a #1 debut. Not a #100 debut, then rise to #1, which implies it was the #100 most popular track the week it was released. That’s what I’m saying. It makes no sense. The airplay tracking week should be the same as streaming and sales. What’s the reasoning it’s different? Billboard needs to readjust their formula because being #100 and jumping to #1 doesn’t reflect real popularity of a song. Edited August 27, 2017 by Mattyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letters From Adi Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Airplay and salez/streaming weeks are different. Also, most of those songs nearly entered the H100. SIO was #2 on Bubbling Under H100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 38 minutes ago, Letters From Adi said: Airplay and salez/streaming weeks are different. Also, most of those songs nearly entered the H100. SIO was #2 on Bubbling Under H100. *#6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letters From Adi Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: *#6 thanks. Where do expect her to enter this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, Letters From Adi said: thanks. Where do expect her to enter this time? ~#80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letters From Adi Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, simmnfierzig said: ~#80 damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 hours ago, simmnfierzig said: ~#80 Kelly's record is safe then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchyisback Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Taylor is a victim of her own slayage. You know you're a beast when you slay EVERYTHING including yourself. Work it girl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetTalker Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 hours ago, simmnfierzig said: ~#80 wth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Unoriginal Posted August 27, 2017 ATRL Moderator Share Posted August 27, 2017 7 hours ago, Mattyboy said: That’s what I’m saying. It makes no sense. The airplay tracking week should be the same as streaming and sales. What’s the reasoning it’s different? Billboard needs to readjust their formula because being #100 and jumping to #1 doesn’t reflect real popularity of a song. I think the radio tracking week is Tuesday - Sunday right (idk, this doesn't include Monday so)? Radio adds are on Tuesday so maybe it's so that newly added songs can make the biggest impact possible in their first full week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyboy Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, simmnfierzig said: ~#80 Is it possible for an artist to tell Billboard or radio not to report the radio AI like Justin Bieber did with Journals? Really wanted Taylor to have two #1 debuts. But at least she got lucky with SIO and has one. Edited August 27, 2017 by Mattyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 38 minutes ago, Unoriginal said: I think the radio tracking week is Tuesday - Sunday right (idk, this doesn't include Monday so)? Radio adds are on Tuesday so maybe it's so that newly added songs can make the biggest impact possible in their first full week? It's Monday - Sunday It's because sales and streaming data takes a couple of days to compile and airplay data doesn't. Billboard made the tracking week that way to have Monday the airplay numbers from Sunday and take those newest numbers for the fresh Hot 100. 1 minute ago, Mattyboy said: Is it possible for an artist to tell Billboard or radio not to report the radio AI like Justin Bieber did with Purpose? Really wanted Taylor to have two #1 debuts. But at least she got lucky with SIO and has one. Justin did what now? I don't think that's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyboy Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, simmnfierzig said: It's Monday - Sunday It's because sales and streaming data takes a couple of days to compile and airplay data doesn't. Billboard made the tracking week that way to have Monday the airplay numbers from Sunday and take those newest numbers for the fresh Hot 100. Justin did what now? I don't think that's possible. Sorry it was Journals. He didn't reveal the sales so it didn't ruin his streak of #1's on the Billboard 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, Mattyboy said: Sorry it was Journals. He didn't reveal the sales so it didn't ruin his streak of #1's on the Billboard 200. Well if he did it then it is apparently possible, but who really cares. Taylor really has 3 #1 debuts now even is only 1 is technically a #1 debut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I want her to enter at #100, just so she can shatter that record too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianc33710 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 14 hours ago, iHype. said: The airplay tracking week being different is so idiotic. If LWYMMD were to debut at #100 or whatever, it wasn't the #100 most popular song the first week it was available. It was obviously much bigger than that. The chart's faulty airplay tracking week messes up the accuracy. LWYMMD was the most popular song the week it debuted. Thus it should be shown as a #1 debut. Not a #100 debut, then rise to #1, which implies it was the #100 most popular track the week it was released. While I also dislike the difference in tracking weeks, BB delays the sales & streaming because those numbers take longer to finalize. BB can tabulate weekly airplay immediately. Remember just a few weeks back when BB had to wait two ADDITIONAL days to release the H 100 because Spotify couldn't get their information right even with the three day delay. Again, I don't like the tracking week differences, but BB has a valid reason for the differences. If BB cut off airplay on Thursdays too, MB has a HUGE advantage then, as their data is available day-to-day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberto Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 On 27/8/2017 at 2:26 AM, TSLGNMA said: Yes. At like number 98. Then she will jump to 1 the following week. Kelly Clarkson is visibly shook. Edit: Opps, I thought the title was "will" not "how". She has broken first day radio record on pop and AC (or HAC?) I believe so she has a bigger start compared to those other number one debuts. I'll be pressed if Taylor debuts at #98...Kelly, her record, can't be touched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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