gerardsuxx Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 100K SPS without Spotify and a hit? Sure Jan.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebaMonster Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Divine said: Slightly higher streams, slightly lower pure sales. Which is natural given that was an earlier time in the transition from sales to streaming. Also, Pinkprint was released right before Christmas. TPP did over 2M SPS overall which 4:44 most likely won't reach, but his career is way longer, so it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptique Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Alonzo Harris said: Stream numbers are fake. They will count first week and second week numbers combined. ah.. thnx.. so it is now available in other music stores aside from Tidal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KORDEI Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, Superpower said: The only thing outlandish in this thread is people trying to make these numbers look like an underperformance. It's reasonable for people to clock you when your arguments have no legs to stand on. JayZ is an easy target and the Hive welcome the drags, but his SPS isn't something you can come for. This is a BIG flop. All that hype with commercials and billboards all over the country and made songs dedicated to Queen for conversation/controversy and is only doing 175k? lmfao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alonzo Harris Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Tom Vercetti said: It's not much so about the sales week. ANTI was dragged for not going platinum in pure sales against Jay's 2013 album. So the main point of interest is whether 4:44 will be able to go platinum in pure sales like MCHG. Time will tell on this obviously. LOL no way platinum in pure sales? You must be joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 minute ago, SebaMonster said: TPP did over 2M SPS overall which 4:44 most likely won't reach, but his career is way longer, so it doesn't matter. Which is to be expected since The Pinkprint is a mainstream hip-hop album with pop crossover songs, and 4:44 is more of a confessional art piece. No shade to Nicki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebaMonster Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Just now, Divine said: Which is to be expected since The Pinkprint is a mainstream hip-hop album with pop crossover songs, and 4:44 is more of a confessional art piece. No shade to Nicki. I know, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Vercetti Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Alonzo Harris said: LOL no way platinum in pure sales? You must be joking I didn't make any claims that it will or won't. I said we'll have to see if it'll be able to. We can't just use this week's performance alone you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Rose Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 minute ago, KORDEI said: This is a BIG flop. All that hype with commercials and billboards all over the country and made songs dedicated to Queen for conversation/controversy and is only doing 175k? lmfao Screaming at BIG FLOP after 1M free copies and a week of exclusive streaming. Anyway, I don't stan Jay, I just like this album. I'm done entertaining ATRL delusions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amenemhat Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, iHype. said: Drake's two mixtapes the year before Views with no Pop songs, no prior singles, and only half a week of sales also did more than this. Your excuse? It really doesn't matter which way you spin it because at the end of the day. 1. Drake makes commercial music 2. Drake is not 20 years into his recording careeer 7 minutes ago, iHype. said: In 2013 Jay-Z did 500K first week and was one of the biggest rappers. Don't go from making him to be the one of the biggest rappers today, to "he's a veteran, he's in a different league! It's different for him" once his numbers start declining. His is a vet and he is in a different league tho? U think he's in the same league as drake? 8 minutes ago, iHype. said: Buying Platinum certifications How can he buy it when he was on the recieving end of the check from sprint? Haters have no logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liberalmusiclover Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, iHype. said: We were told the Platinum certification was fine because he was gonna sell Platinum anyways unlike Anti These numbers are low for him. 1 hour ago, Cap10Planet said: Isn't this still more than ANTI, tho? Rihanna's last album before ANTI didn't open with over half a million copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PULSE. Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Flop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemy Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Superpower said: Screaming at BIG FLOP after 1M free copies and a week of exclusive streaming. Anyway, I don't stan Jay, I just like this album. I'm done entertaining ATRL delusions 1 this sounds so familiar.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saeju Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 21 Savage kinda won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemy Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 HOV wont reach 3M SPS unlike ANTI so Rihanna won. Will he even sell more than 700K Pure like Anti? We know Rappers usually sell at least 50% of their first sales in their Debut week. Hov flopped big time. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Just now, Deemy said: HOV wont reach 3M SPS unlike ANTI so Rihanna won. Will he even sell more than 700K Pure like Anti? We know Rappers usually sell at least 50% of their first sales in their Debut week. Hov flopped big time. Get over it. This isn't his debut week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PULSE. Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Crescendolls. said: Lemonade probably lost a few thousands sales due to that useless 2 days Tidal exclusive too. That 600k+ debut was impressive but she would have done even more without that. Bey really needs to keep it cute next era ! She needs to cut Tidal completely. Edited July 8, 2017 by PULSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemy Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Just now, Wicked said: This isn't his debut week. This his debut week with Sales and Multi platform Streaming. Billboard and HDD and all other platforms will consider this his debut week whether you want to accept that or not. His Debut wouldve been even worse this is his way of saving face. Jay thought he could pull Drake, Kendrick or Yeezy numbers streaming wise and failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liberalmusiclover Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Deemy said: HOV wont reach 3M SPS unlike ANTI so Rihanna won. Will he even sell more than 700K Pure like Anti? We know Rappers usually sell at least 50% of their first sales in their Debut week. Hov flopped big time. Get over it. Yes. He has flopped tremendously. I can't at them trying to drag ANTI, but praise 4:44 for doing worse. LMAO. Watch for the "ANTI had a #1 hit" excuse, knowing damn well the album was released two days after Work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alonzo Harris Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, Wicked said: This isn't his debut week. Stop it. This is hovs first week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHype. Posted July 8, 2017 Author Share Posted July 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, Amenemhat said: It really doesn't matter which way you spin it because at the end of the day. 1. Drake makes commercial music 2. Drake is not 20 years into his recording careeer His is a vet and he is in a different league tho? U think he's in the same league as drake? How can he buy it when he was on the recieving end of the check from sprint? Haters have no logic 5 Jay-Z makes commercial music too hun. You're talking about Jay-Z; the Empire State of Mind & Holy Grail artist who constantly went as far as using other big names on all his singles for 8 years straight to make them hits. Pitbull level desperation. You using "Drake makes commercial music" as if Jay-Z is making some Sade type music He only did the deal with Sprint so they could get him a Platinum certification, as he did with Samsung last album. Success gets to him so much he literally WON'T release an album nowadays unless he has strings set up to make it look successful. Now THAT IS sad. Which is why he deserves the lashings. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemy Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 minute ago, liberalmusiclover said: Yes. He has flopped tremendously. I can't at them trying to drag ANTI, but praise 4:44 for doing worse. LMAO. Watch for the "ANTI had a #1 hit" excuse, knowing damn well the album was released two days after Work. And TIDAL leaked the album the same day Work came out. Everybody could listen to the album for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Deemy said: This his debut week with Sales and Multi platform Streaming. Billboard and HDD and all other platforms will consider this his debut week whether you want to accept that or not. His Debut wouldve been even worse this is his way of saving face. Jay thought he could pull Drake, Kendrick or Yeezy numbers streaming wise and failed. Kanye only did 66k in SEA. We don't know what Jay did on Tidal last week. And why would he expect to be doing Drake or Kendrick numbers when they're younger, newer, and both of them - yes, even Kendrick - are making more mainstream music than him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liberalmusiclover Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Wicked said: This isn't his debut week. It is his first week, seeing that TIDAL didn't report his streaming last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Deemy said: HOV wont reach 3M SPS unlike ANTI so Rihanna won. Will he even sell more than 700K Pure like Anti? We know Rappers usually sell at least 50% of their first sales in their Debut week. Hov flopped big time. Get over it. ANTI didn't cross 700k Jay Z debuted in 1996, Rihanna a decade later. Let's not compare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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