clue Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Ummm is Lana safe? She's releasing in 2 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suga&Grits Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 43 minutes ago, Cap10Planet said: The biggest Hip Hop album of 2017 is easily DAMN. Lol at you comparing Kendrick in his prime to Jay-Z touching AARP approval . I see no logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Rose Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, iHype. said: Is towards the Hive defending him in general. And Anti will sell more and do more SPS overall despite similar circumstances and was dragged to hell so yeah these numbers really aren't that amazing especially when he was used as the antithesis for Anti excuses "well Jay Z gave his album away and did WAY better, etc etc". The only thing outlandish in this thread is people trying to make these numbers look like an underperformance. It's reasonable for people to clock you when your arguments have no legs to stand on. JayZ is an easy target and the Hive welcome the drags, but his SPS isn't something you can come for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap10Planet Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Suga&Grits said: Lol at you comparing Kendrick in his prime to Jay-Z touching AARP approval . I see no logic I'm comparing a 2017 rap album to a 2017 rap album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Imagine coming for a artist that has been releasing nearly 20 years with success NO ONE stays on top forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherocks Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Clueless said: Ummm is Lana safe? She's releasing in 2 weeks Sweetheart, if I was not die-hard fan of hers I wouldn't even know or bother at this point when her album is coming out. She will do horrible which she wouldn't have if she released the album in, idk March or April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremor Christ Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 The #10 seller does 10k~ in 2017, who the hell can think that he's crossing 500k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alonzo Harris Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Did Dr Dre outsold Jay Z? Dre did 320K with Compton right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rihannabiggestfan Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Clueless said: Ummm is Lana safe? She's releasing in 2 weeks My Lana stan friend said she may push back. Or is he wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amenemhat Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, iHype. said: Yes Rihanna is a pop star, and newsflash - in 2017 Rap stars are the ones pulling the biggest numbers. You can't use him being a rapper as an excuse like Views wasn't the top album last year Pretty sure that was lemonade. secondly, how you going to compare views to a rap album like 4:44. Does jay z have a one dance? didnt Drake boycott the grammys because he didn't think he deserved to be in the rap categories? 15 minutes ago, iHype. said: and DAMN isn't the top one this year. Ok but what numbers will Kendrick be doing on his 10th album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremor Christ Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Just now, Alonzo Harris said: Did Dr Dre outsold Jay Z? Dre did 320K with Compton right? Yeah and that was only digital, iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alonzo Harris Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tremor Christ said: Yeah and that was only digital, iirc Wow thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clue Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, ontherocks said: Sweetheart, if I was not die-hard fan of hers I wouldn't even know or bother at this point when her album is coming out. She will do horrible which she wouldn't have if she released the album in, idk March or April. You know what, you're right. **** it. Serves her ass right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 is that worse than the pinkprint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Alonzo Harris said: Did Dr Dre outsold Jay Z? Dre did 320K with Compton right? Without streaming for a week prior to going on sale, and being released in tandem with the Straight Outta Compton movie. A third Dre album was also hugely anticipated for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suga&Grits Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Y'all are in here really dragging him for his second week Nfffffff like he is over or something bfff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptique Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 where's that album sales coming from tho?? if it's not release anywhere and that Sprint deal isn't counted to BB.. and the streams smells fishy as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
istan4badgalriri Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Amenemhat said: Is not a similar circumstance at all. Rihanna is a pop star, Rihanna had features, Rihanna promoted. Stop Rihanna didn't do any US promo for ANTI until May (4 months after release), didn't have iTunes banners, didn't have physical copies first week & she released in January which is the worst time of the year for sales. Plus the hype for her album had died a little due to the long, messy rollout. And rappers' first week sales are usually bigger than pop girls first week sales. Y'all dragged Rihanna last year, using the fact that Jay Z did way better with his 2013 album MCHG, and now y'all are struggling to find excuses to explain why he's barely outdoing Anti's #s in a similar sales climate, in better circumstances. Edited July 8, 2017 by istan4badgalriri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alonzo Harris Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Suga&Grits said: Y'all are in here really dragging him for his second week Nfffffff like he is over or something bfff lol the "second week" excuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 minute ago, fridayteenage said: is that worse than the pinkprint Slightly higher streams, slightly lower pure sales. Which is natural given that was an earlier time in the transition from sales to streaming. Also, Pinkprint was released right before Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremor Christ Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 150k pure for Jay Z is cool but nothing amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHype. Posted July 8, 2017 Author Share Posted July 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, Amenemhat said: Pretty sure that was lemonade. secondly, how you going to compare views to a rap album like 4:44. Does jay z have a one dance? didnt Drake boycott the grammys because he didn't think he deserved to be in the rap categories? Ok but what numbers will Kendrick be doing on his 10th album? 5 Views is 4x Platinum, Lemonade is 2x Platinum. I'm pretty sure being certified for 2 million more means you had the bigger album. Drake's two mixtapes the year before Views with no Pop songs, no prior singles, and only half a week of sales also did more than this. Your excuse? In 2013 Jay-Z did 500K first week and was one of the biggest rappers. Don't go from making him to be the one of the biggest rappers today, to "he's a veteran, he's in a different league! It's different for him, don't compare him to rappers today!" once his numbers start declining. Jay-Z is thirsty for success so he deserves the drags anyways. Buying Platinum certifications and always trying to attach his name to others (Beyonce, JT, Kanye, etc) who are doing huge numbers. Jay-Z clearly is success hungry, so he will get dragged if he underperforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suga&Grits Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Just now, Alonzo Harris said: lol the "second week" excuse He has a stadium tour lined up and I'm sure Bam will be huge this one L from winning all the dam time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alonzo Harris Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Cryptique said: where's that album sales coming from tho?? if it's not release anywhere and that Sprint deal isn't counted to BB.. and the streams smells fishy as usual. Stream numbers are fake. They will count first week and second week numbers combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Vercetti Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 18 minutes ago, Émotif Fool said: Didn't MCHG have Holy Grail+multiple other hits to support its sales week? Anti also had a 9 week #1 so it's still impressive that it;s outperforming it so no need to shade Jay y'all It's not much so about the sales week. ANTI was dragged for not going platinum in pure sales against Jay's 2013 album. So the main point of interest is whether 4:44 will be able to go platinum in pure sales like MCHG. Time will tell on this obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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