charts discussion Streaming Discussion | Spotify, YouTube, Apple Music, etc.

[Agenor]

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Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee’s "Despacito," featuring Justin Bieber has already topped the 1.11 billion on-demand streams mark (combined audio and video).

http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/7988664/nielsen-music-2017-q3-streaming-physical-report

 

So with almost 2.5 million digital downloads that makes DESPACITO just 100k shy of diamond certification.

Edited October 3, 2017 by Agenor

[Agenor]

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Streaming growth continues to accelerate as total on-demand streams for audio and video in the United States hit 442.44 billion for the first nine months of 2017, up 40.5 percent from the 315 billion accumulated in the first nine months of 2016, according to Nielsen Music.

As part of streaming's growth, albums plus track-equivalent albums (10 tracks=1 album consumption unit) plus stream-equivalent albums (1,500 streams=1 album consumption unit) totaled 456.2 million consumption units, up 11.1 percent from the 410.63 million garnered in the first nine months of 2016.

Typical of the growth of streaming, Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee’s "Despacito," featuring Justin Bieber has already topped the 1.11 billion on-demand streams mark (combined audio and video), while last year the top on-demand streaming song, Desiigner's "Panda," had 674.4 million streams at the end of the third quarter. In fact, seven other tracks in 2017 surpassed the "Panda" total for the first three quarters of 2016.

Within individual streaming data, audio on-demand grew 59.7 percent to 287.15 billion from the 180.1 billion reported at the end of the third quarter in 2016; while video on demand streaming grew 15.1 percent to 155.3 billion streams, versus 134.9 billion in the corresponding year-earlier period.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/7988664/nielsen-music-2017-q3-streaming-physical-report

Edited October 3, 2017 by Agenor

[bjnono001]

11 minutes ago, Agenor said:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/7988664/nielsen-music-2017-q3-streaming-physical-report

 

So with almost 2.5 million digital downloads that makes DESPACITO just 100k shy of diamond certification.

Despacito has sold 2.5M in the US already? I thought it had just past 2M, holy. So it's ahead of Shape of You too in sales.

Edited October 3, 2017 by bjnono001

[Agenor]

2 minutes ago, bjnono001 said:

Despacito has sold 2.5M in the US already? I thought it had just past 2M holy. So it's ahead of Shape of You too in sales.

Yes, it's around 85k ahead of SOY.

[volition]

Why did New Rules jump so much

 

actually why did so many songs shift quite significantly?

[fridayteenage]

what's petty about stating factual statements in response to "

so we can now safely say that rihanna and adele are the only women that are on the same level as males streaming-wise?"

aside from your bias and your desire to attack people? 

[Isaiah]

7 hours ago, simmnfierzig said:

Yeah let's say that after 2 songs

realistically streaming is so urban idk how Taylor will hold on Spotify and AM. She’ll always be a YouTube force though  

[brianc33710]

Why are none of Tom Petty's videos in the YT T 500? Free Falling is available for views. I have looked twice now, and the US views alone should put him in the WW T 100. He has his own Vevo Channel too.

[brianc33710]

2 hours ago, bjnono001 said:

Despacito has sold 2.5M in the US already? I thought it had just past 2M, holy. So it's ahead of Shape of You too in sales.

2.482 M. It'll pass 2.5 M well before Thursday's midnight cutoff, though now I will say it reaches 3 M downloads.....it slowed down very quickly after getting past 2.2-2.3 M.

 

1.050 B streams and 3 M downloads = Diamond

I was assuming Despacito would reach it that way. But it could go to 1.1 X Diamond if it keeps streaming strongly and when its sales surpass 3M. It'll get a BIG EOY boost from both.

[Fruity]

Yeh in reality Taylor can easily make up for SP+AM streams with YT streams.

[blackbeatxx]

The streams for despacito

 

[Communion]

 

TTH was updated again for some reason like 4 hours ago.

 

Mi Gente moved back up.

Perfect moved up.

Sorry Not Sorry moved down.

Love Galore & do re mi moved down a lot.

DNA moved down etc.

 

The activity on it has been super weird.

[DELE2125]

15 hours ago, bjnono001 said:

Despacito has sold 2.5M in the US already? I thought it had just past 2M, holy. So it's ahead of Shape of You too in sales.

Yes, it has sold 2,481,544 pure copies as of last week. It passed the 2M mark like two months ago

 

And its streams are insane. Such a huge song

 

[DELE2125]

20 hours ago, fridayteenage said:

streaming peaks per billboard:

#19 send my love

#48 when we were young

Are you really trying it with songs that charted only after the album was released? And an album that sold over 3.3M copies pure sales in its first week, and those songs were only available when released as singles, several months after everyone had already purchased the album... But go on, I guess. Adele remains unbothered with her second Diamond Album and having over 1B streams. Not everyone can relate.

[simmnfierzig]

10 minutes ago, DELE2125 said:

Are you really trying it with songs that charted only after the album was released? And an album that sold over 3.3M copies pure sales in its first week, and those songs were only available when released as singles, several months after everyone had already purchased the album... But go on, I guess. Adele remains unbothered with her second Diamond Album and having over 1B streams. Not everyone can relate.

Hello sold 1M first week and was still smashing streaming 

Buying and streaming are really totally different audiences. And the mentioned songs did much better on sales than streaming so it's not like the album sales or the time passed totally killed them. Adele is a bit hit and miss on streaming too. Shows how hard it is for females 

Hopefully that changes in the coming years when more and more people move to streaming... 

[Wonderland]

1 hour ago, Communion said:

 

TTH was updated again for some reason like 4 hours ago.

 

Mi Gente moved back up.

Perfect moved up.

Sorry Not Sorry moved down.

Love Galore & do re mi moved down a lot.

DNA moved down etc.

 

The activity on it has been super weird.

Get that promo Lorde  

[DELE2125]

7 hours ago, simmnfierzig said:

Hello sold 1M first week and was still smashing streaming 

Buying and streaming are really totally different audiences. And the mentioned songs did much better on sales than streaming so it's not like the album sales or the time passed totally killed them. Adele is a bit hit and miss on streaming too. Shows how hard it is for females 

Hopefully that changes in the coming years when more and more people move to streaming... 

How can you really say that sales didn't affect Adele's streams?  I mean, are we going to act like "When We Were Young" wasn't available to streaming services when "25" was past 7M pure sales and that "Send My Love" was available when "25" was well over 8M pure copies?  And both singles didn't do as well in the sales department for the same reason. People had already consumed her music by BUYING it. Do you REALISTICALLY think that she was going to pull top 3 streaming on Spotify for her singles after being owned by 7 or 8 million people? I mean, your assumption might be correct for artists that don't sell that much, and can still get higher stats on streaming, but for Adele, we cannot deny that her astronomic sales limit her streaming potential. And even with all of that, the album still managed to get 1.3B+ streams on Spotify. That is a testament to her power.

 

 

[Green]

1 hour ago, simmnfierzig said:

Hello sold 1M first week and was still smashing streaming 

Buying and streaming are really totally different audiences. And the mentioned songs did much better on sales than streaming so it's not like the album sales or the time passed totally killed them. Adele is a bit hit and miss on streaming too. Shows how hard it is for females 

Hopefully that changes in the coming years when more and more people move to streaming... 

But even for males is hard to get multiples streaming hits after the album release. Just look at "I Feel It Coming" and Abel is a big streaming artist.

Also Ed's post Shape of you singles after the album release. Let's see how Perfect will do but I feel like streaming will stop him from getting a big smash.

 

Also Kendrick's current single Loyalty isn't even in the top 50 of streaming. It reached its peak during the album release.

[simmnfierzig]

Just now, DELE2125 said:

How can you really say that sales didn't affect Adele's streams?  I mean, are we going to act like "When We Were Young" wasn't available to streaming services when "25" was past 7M pure sales and that "Send My Love" was available when "25" was well over 8M pure copies?  And both singles didn't do as well in the sales department for the same reason. People had already consumed her music by BUYING it. Do you REALISTICALLY think that she was going to pull top 3 streaming on Spotify for her singles after being owned by 7 or 8 million people? I mean, your assumption might be correct for artists that don't sell that much, and can still get higher stats on streaming, but for Adele, we cannot deny that her astronomic sales limit her streaming potential. And even with all of that, the album still managed to get 1.3B+ streams on Spotify. That is a testament to her power.

 

 

Funny how angry you get. It's really not that serious. 

 

I didn't say it didn't affect the streams at all, but it's clearly not the difference between top 3 and #48. Come on now. And no I didn't expect them to go top 3, but the other user saying Adele is a much better streaming force than Taylor seems a bit weird given the numbers. And 1.3B streams is not exactly great... 

 

Adele has a buying audience. That's really awesome, but do you realistically think people listen to CDs in 2016? Sure I buy Taylor's CDs, but I don't listen to them. I listen to her on Apple Music, but maybe Adele fans listen to CDs. Idk. 

[DELE2125]

7 hours ago, simmnfierzig said:

Funny how angry you get. It's really not that serious. 

 

I didn't say it didn't affect the streams at all, but it's clearly not the difference between top 3 and #48. Come on now. And no I didn't expect them to go top 3, but the other user saying Adele is a much better streaming force than Taylor seems a bit weird given the numbers. And 1.3B streams is not exactly great... 

 

Adele has a buying audience. That's really awesome, but do you realistically think people listen to CDs in 2016? Sure I buy Taylor's CDs, but I don't listen to them. I listen to her on Apple Music, but maybe Adele fans listen to CDs. Idk. 

Considering she sold a huge amount of physical copies, I would say her fans buy CD's but then again, her fanbase is pretty much the GP. Not everyone can relate. She caters to a wider demographic than the other girls and doesn't engage in petty fights to get controversy or headlines to sell her material. And also 1.3B streams is great for an album that has sold 21M copies WW. You can quote me when someone that sells that much still is able to pull those streams.

 

[simmnfierzig]

Just now, DELE2125 said:

Considering she sold a huge amount of physical copies, I would say her fans buy CD's but then again, her fanbase is pretty much the GP. Not everyone can relate. She caters to a wider demographic than the other girls and doesn't engage in petty fights to get controversy or headlines to sell her material. And also 1.3B streams is great for an album that has sold 21M copies WW. You can quote me when someone that sells that much still is able to pull those streams.

 

Yeah like I said. I buy CDs too, but I don't actually listen to them. 

 

And really great. Pretty sure the discussion was about streaming and not about sales. We will never know how much those sales hurt her streams, and we 2 clearly have much different opinions about that, but that's also really not that important. Not like she is going to not put her next album up for sales to show us her "true streaming power". So we have to just use the numbers that we do have, don't you think

[Agenor]

4 hours ago, simmnfierzig said:

Funny how angry you get. It's really not that serious. 

 

I didn't say it didn't affect the streams at all, but it's clearly not the difference between top 3 and #48. Come on now. And no I didn't expect them to go top 3, but the other user saying Adele is a much better streaming force than Taylor seems a bit weird given the numbers. And 1.3B streams is not exactly great... 

 

Adele has a buying audience. That's really awesome, but do you realistically think people listen to CDs in 2016? Sure I buy Taylor's CDs, but I don't listen to them. I listen to her on Apple Music, but maybe Adele fans listen to CDs. Idk. 

 

4 hours ago, DELE2125 said:

Considering she sold a huge amount of physical copies, I would say her fans buy CD's but then again, her fanbase is pretty much the GP. Not everyone can relate. She caters to a wider demographic than the other girls and doesn't engage in petty fights to get controversy or headlines to sell her material. And also 1.3B streams is great for an album that has sold 21M copies WW. You can quote me when someone that sells that much still is able to pull those streams.

 

 

25 had 1.775 billion streams on Spotify in August, I haven't checked the numbers recently but I'm pretty sure it's over 1.8 billion at the moment.

 

 

Edited October 4, 2017 by Agenor

[blackbeatxx]

25 is at 1,85 billion streams right now.

that is Amazing with only 11 songs and no added songs that isn´t really on the album *hrrm* Ellie *hrrm*

 

[DELE2125]

11 hours ago, Agenor said:

 

 

25 had 1.775 billion streams on Spotify in August, I haven't checked the numbers recently but I'm pretty sure it's over 1.8 billion at the moment.

 

 

Welp... There you go

 

But I supposed it's still "not that great" for some

 

[taylor__fan]

23 minutes ago, DELE2125 said:

Welp... There you go

 

But I supposed it's still "not that great" for some

 

Nobody said it is not great, of course she puts great numbers

Someone said that Rihanna and Adele are Streaming queens, and i said that Ariana is way bigger than Adele, because she is. If im not wrong ME has been the most streamed female album on spotify for 3 years now, outstreaming new releases despite spotify streams increasing a lot 

DW also has +2B streams and thats without even counting focus

 

Simm said that Adele in streaming is a hit or a miss, which is true because some of her singles are massive there and some arent at all, like WUTB or WWWY.

 

Complaining about the songs not going to streaming because Adele didnt want to doesnt make so much sense either. I could say that 1989 would have been the albums with more streams by a female in spotify if it was in spotify and it may be true but we would never know so...

Edited October 4, 2017 by taylor__fan