celeb news Raven Symone thinks Disney pushed Miley Cyrus more because she was skinny and white

[rickycabello123]

i hate that black people always talk about race & skin color, like normani and her whole fans... i know they had a scary past but always race card like ew... miley is amazing

[Katamari]

the full quote  

 

 

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"I was 18 on the set, dealing with [my co-star] Orlando [Brown]. So I had a lot more things to worry about than Miley Cyrus. Was there, in my brain, a 'WTF' on what, why, and how [her career] is going faster than what I went through? Obviously. But then at that time, you chalk it up to skinny, white, and the foundation was already built…and talent. My girl, Miley, she's talented."

 

 

 

i think some of yall posting based off the title

 

 

[Mtjjproducer]

2 minutes ago, rickycabello123 said:

i hate that black people always talk about race & skin color, like normani and her whole fans... i know they had a scary past but always race card like ew... miley is amazing

It makes sense you are a Camila fan 

[sciencemagic]

5 minutes ago, rickycabello123 said:

i hate that black people always talk about race & skin color, like normani and her whole fans... i know they had a scary past but always race card like ew... miley is amazing

genuinely one of the most embarrassing posts on this website 

 

time to attend some of the racial healing sessions your fave went to!

Edited 16 hours ago by sciencemagic

[Bimbo]

7 minutes ago, rickycabello123 said:

i hate that black people always talk about race & skin color, like normani and her whole fans... i know they had a scary past but always race card like ew... miley is amazing

Of course

 

[Marianah Adkins]

7 minutes ago, rickycabello123 said:

i hate that black people always talk about race & skin color, like normani and her whole fans... i know they had a scary past but always race card like ew... miley is amazing

at least they have a legit excuse for their floppage

 

Camila's flop ass has no excuse with the amount of payola and unwarranted push she received throughout her career. 

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

Not caring about the feelings of a woman who harassed Amber Heard, a rape and domestic abuse, in public with her busted wife for clicks and clout. 

[Rogue The ATRLer Slayer]

19 minutes ago, rickycabello123 said:

i hate that black people always talk about race & skin color, like normani and her whole fans... i know they had a scary past but always race card like ew... miley is amazing

A Ca Ca stan getting perma banned I love to see it! 
 

[Trent W]

20 minutes ago, rickycabello123 said:

i hate that black people always talk about race & skin color, like normani and her whole fans... i know they had a scary past but always race card like ew... miley is amazing

Teenagers really shouldn't be in this forum

 

This is one of the most stupid takes of all time

[Afterglow]

She's absolutely correct. And it's "Symone" not "Simone". 

 

 

40 minutes ago, Mtjjproducer said:

Raven stalled for a few reasons. First her solo music sucked. She didn't go on tour with cheetah girls which didn't extend that brand. Also she was aging out of the Disney brand. 
 

add to the fact that the only non acting Disney adult thing I remember her was that low budget high school bully role she had when she played a middle age cheerleader. Honestly I was surprised Disney asked her to come back after she did the view. 

Okay enough with the "her music sucks" rhetoric, yall say that and don't seem to know much about her career or material. Your comment is completely subjective opinion and actually disrespectful to her legacy. 

 

What is fact is Raven served completely fine and serviceable pop music that was ignored by the Disney audience because it was R&B forward and much, much more mature than what you all were used to the other girls serving. 

 

Disney had no idea how to market a voice or a girl who looked like Raven nor did the tween audience know how to recieve her as a singer. Black audiences slightly latched on to Backflip (it had a run on BET and 106th & Park) but she was not marketed to the GP. 

 

Raven said as much on her MySpace about her frustrations with Hollywood Records double standards, she even had to come out of pocket for her self-titled album. And this goes forward for most all black teen stars, they are ignored by the audience in many mediums outside of comedy and people "don't remember" their projects. 

 

Keke Palmer

Corbin Bleu

Zendaya

 

I could list many more. Completely unable to get music careers off the ground despite success in acting. 

 

And people saying they're tired of black people expressing their trauma are absolutely insane and absurd individuals. 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by Afterglow

[jakeisphat]

Period because this should have went #1

 

 

[AvadaKedavra]

I dont think the comparison with miley is fair. Theyre both from a different generation of stars
The comparison should be with hilary duff and lizzie mguire. Her real peer
 

Edited 15 hours ago by AvadaKedavra

[Cheers]

That obviously played a part but idk there's also something about Raven that's just not stannable.

 

Shes talented but uninteresting. She can obviously sing but her tone wasn't anything interesting. IMO she should've pursued acting harder than singing. 

[TiaTamera]

1 hour ago, jrd30121994 said:

Miley sweetie

Miley what? 

[DirtyPony87]

54 minutes ago, rickycabello123 said:

i hate that black people always talk about race & skin color, like normani and her whole fans... i know they had a scary past but always race card like ew... miley is amazing

[Radical Pessimism]

1 hour ago, rickycabello123 said:

i hate that black people always talk about race & skin color, like normani and her whole fans... i know they had a scary past but always race card like ew... miley is amazing

hmm

 

[kekeloml]

1 hour ago, rickycabello123 said:

i hate that black people always talk about race & skin color, like normani and her whole fans... i know they had a scary past but always race card like ew... miley is amazing

This don't even make sense…… I'm not even going to entertain this level of stupidity in this statement. 

[Popboi.]

That, on top of Miley being more talented, new in the scene, younger and having an instant successful show all aligned. Like Raven said, in the end of the day she got her bag, became one of the biggest star childs and by when Miley debuted she was already an adult about to leave Disney. Also the success of That's So Raven opened doors for future shows, they knew they could market new stars with sitcoms.

[Popboi.]

14 minutes ago, kekeloml said:

This don't even make sense…… I'm not even going to entertain this level of stupidity in this statement. 

I mean... let's just say the obvious:

 

[honestopinion]

She's still so bitter over a child becoming more successful than her LMAO, isn't she was in her 20s when Miley debuted 

[Rico Shameless v2]

1 hour ago, Afterglow said:

She's absolutely correct. And it's "Symone" not "Simone". 

 

 

Okay enough with the "her music sucks" rhetoric, yall say that and don't seem to know much about her career or material. Your comment is completely subjective opinion and actually disrespectful to her legacy. 

 

What is fact is Raven served completely fine and serviceable pop music that was ignored by the Disney audience because it was R&B forward and much, much more mature than what you all were used to the other girls serving. 

 

Disney had no idea how to market a voice or a girl who looked like Raven nor did the tween audience know how to recieve her as a singer. Black audiences slightly latched on to Backflip (it had a run on BET and 106th & Park) but she was not marketed to the GP. 

 

Raven said as much on her MySpace about her frustrations with Hollywood Records double standards, she even had to come out of pocket for her self-titled album. And this goes forward for most all black teen stars, they are ignored by the audience in many mediums outside of comedy and people "don't remember" their projects. 

 

Keke Palmer

Corbin Bleu

Zendaya

 

I could list many more. Completely unable to get music careers off the ground despite success in acting. 

 

And people saying they're tired of black people expressing their trauma are absolutely insane and absurd individuals. 

 

I agree with the general sentiment here but her music can't both be serviceable pop music & forward R&B… I think you hit on the nail the latter thought, it wasn't serviceable. It was more R&B and she didn't really have the greatest voice to market. She worked with top producers and songwriters as well, so the potential was there. I'm not going to say her music sucked but it definitely wasn't something a young audience was going to stick with either.

 

It was kind of easy for Miley because she had the Hannah persona and the show's plot revolved around a pop singer so that transition was almost seamless. Almost similarly with Hilary & Lizzie. I disagree with the white & skinny comment altogether because Disney had plenty of failed white wanna-be singers. Even non-Disney white girls were flailing next to Britney & Christina, while being pushed to replicate them at some point diminishing returns.

 

Raven had musical moments during TSR but it ultimately wasn't the driving plot behind the series. The Cheetah Girls was doomed with the typical situation dealing with a girl group + two of the girls had already suffered the drawback of trying to come up as a group via 3LW. That coupled with being a concept and not an actual developed group it wasn't an opportunity for Raven to continue to branch out.

 

I have to disagree with Keke & Zendaya. Keke wasn't with Disney when she started putting out music. Her labels in general failed her. Zendaya actually had a well received album, it was serviceable and Replay is a little classic for her. She just never expanded on that.

 

 

[gab00]

1 hour ago, rickycabello123 said:

i hate that black people always talk about race & skin color, like normani and her whole fans... i know they had a scary past but always race card like ew... miley is amazing

Girl delete this asap

 

[Johnny Jacobs]

both were highly successful but hannah was on another level. doesnt mean she isnt wrong 

[Vespertine]

1 hour ago, Cheers said:

IMO she should've pursued acting harder than singing. 

I do agree with this. Raven is by far the most talented comedic actress to ever grace a Disney Channel series, and I wish she had found a way to graduate into adult comedy films and television series. But I guess she didn't really want to?

 

I still watch old TSR clips from time to time and remain amazed by her comedic timing/delivery and especially her knack for physical comedy — all as a teenager!    

[Wicked]

1 hour ago, rickycabello123 said:

i hate that black people always talk about race & skin color, like normani and her whole fans... i know they had a scary past but always race card like ew... miley is amazing

Thanks for giving me 3 new members of my block list, you and the people who liked this post.