news Trump revokes Equal Employment Opportunity Act

[TiaTamera]

1 hour ago, commander said:

What's next... interracial marriage? Same sex marriage? Women's right to vote? 

Not for nothing, I kind of want him to revoke interracial marriage because the overwhelming majority of people that promote interracial marriage as a marker of success (particularly if they married into a white family) lean conservative 

 

They love saying how white family values are better than whatever minority's values they come from and love bragging that they "upgraded" but getting a whity. I'm here for the chaos

 

Spoiler

I'm joking 

 

[jordanjm]

3 minutes ago, Parachutes said:

 

I may be misunderstanding, but protections against hiring/employment discrimination are established by the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Equal Rights and Opportunity Commission, which enforces those protections in the workplace, also falls under that act, and wouldn't be disbanded without an act of Congress. Trump targeting this specific executive order (LBJ's EO 11246, which is specific to federal contractors and subcontractors) is a scary demonstration of his intentions. But, it does not remove the civil rights protections all workers (in any workplace) are entitled to, since that is codified law and has been for 60 years. Congress, not even now, is not overturning the CRA; even if all are somehow got behind it there wouldn't be enough votes. Still, I'd imagine that this administration will likely reduce civil rights enforcement efforts, hence this new executive order.

What's left of the civil rights act. It has been nearly gutted by the Supreme Court over the last several years. 

[Capris Groove]

I wouldn't be surprised if a civil war breaks out in the next four years. America really is two countries.

[Cruel Summer]

While the scope of the order is more narrow than it initially reads since it applies to the federal government and contractors, this is still genuinely ******* insane. The original executive order this "repeals," more or less, was opposed by the Reagan administration in the mid-80s and they didn't even amend it because of strong bipartisan support. The conservative movement in this country has run so far and so fast to the right that we're officially in "Reagan era Republicans were to the left of MAGA cultists" territory.

[MattieB]

57 minutes ago, velocity said:

wtf have democrats been doing all these years?

why wasn't it even codifyed

[NEUTRON]

1 hour ago, Dual Lips said:

I hope him and Elon get a terminal illness and they both die in agony

like THIS WEEK

[Vixen Eyes]

1 hour ago, Lagerfeld said:

OK - we need a megathread for Trump signage now, like Azealia Banks.

No this is different. Peoples literal lives are on the line here. With Azuzu banks it's just her meltdowns and internet dragging that get tired etc 

With politics, people NEED to know what's happening in real time. 

[wastedpotential]

16 minutes ago, Parachutes said:

 

I may be misunderstanding, but protections against hiring/employment discrimination are established by the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Equal Rights and Opportunity Commission, which enforces those protections in the workplace, also falls under that act, and wouldn't be disbanded without an act of Congress. Trump targeting this specific executive order (LBJ's EO 11246, which is specific to federal contractors and subcontractors) is a scary demonstration of his intentions. But, it does not remove the civil rights protections all workers (in any workplace) are entitled to, since that is codified law and has been for 60 years. Congress, not even now, is not overturning the CRA; even if all Republicans somehow got behind it there wouldn't be enough votes (and as backwards as this country is, going that far absolutely would be political suicide in most cases). Still, I'd imagine that this administration will likely reduce civil rights enforcement efforts, hence this new executive order.

The thought process here is that like 1/3 of all Fortune 500 companies (and a significant proportion of companies in general) are federal contractors, and thus were obligated to conform to EO 11246, and they do set the tone of the business climate in their respective fields. The CRA (and associated titles) will remain in force, at least until someone tries to challenge its constitutionality before the Supreme Court (recent tests heard by the current court, such as Groff v. DeJoy and Students v. Harvard have been a mixed bag), but there's absolutely no reason to think that someone in the Trump Admin couldn't shepherd a specific case up to them that's designed to force a ruling against the CRA's constitutionality (be it limited, or broadly). We'll just have to see 

[Parachutes]

11 minutes ago, jordanjm said:

What's left of the civil rights act. It has been nearly gutted by the Supreme Court over the last several years. 

From what I know recent Supreme Court cases have had more of a negative impact on the Voting Rights Act (e.g. Shelby County v Holder (2013)). I'll admit I'm not super knowledgeable about its legal history, but I know that some recent Supreme Court decisions (Bostock v Clay County, Harris Funeral Homes v EEOC) affirmed that discrimination against LGBT individuals fall under the scope of the act, so more positive developments. 

 

In any case, my main point is that workplace discrimination protections are codified into law (which some were bringing up) and can't be totally stripped through Executive action alone, so these headlines can be somewhat misleading. Still a very scary direction for his administration to go down. 

[Colmillo]

When only straight white men have the right to vote by the end of his term

 

 

Thank God I don't live in that **** hole, I feel sorry for y'all tho.

[ArtDeco]

madness

[Davidoff]

1 hour ago, Riverbank said:

At this rate he's gonna bring segregation back by next week

You're saying we haven't had segregation for the last 30 years? 

[Flanders]

1 hour ago, SmittenCake said:

 

 

 

 

 

The added context under these tweets was actually very helpful and at least somewhat relieving. 
 

but yeah this man is on a mission to basically set America back in time 

[Romova99]

1 hour ago, Dual Lips said:

I hope him and Elon get a terminal illness and they both die in agony

I feel like JD Vance is even worst for some reason 

 

Did you guys felt the same way back in 2016? It's truly concerning what is going on in America with this ******* and all of his people, I mean I don't know how the other half of the country can fight back these kind of stuff.

[Breathe On Moi]

56 minutes ago, Capris Groove said:

I wouldn't be surprised if a civil war breaks out in the next four years. America really is two countries.

kinda screaming at the idea of ATRL gays wearing cute outfits to go out and fight in the civil war 

[Raphy23]

2 hours ago, P!NK2LOVE said:

So what is his end goal here  what a ******* loser

white straight men are complaining they are being disadvantaged. So it's to get their votes.

 

and obviously they're not, they finally got a taste of what not being privileged feels like and threw a hissy fit.

[Communion]

2 hours ago, woohoo said:

No. Democrats had a 60 seat majority one time in 2009 for like 2 months

The EEOE was created by FDR via executive order in 1941, please. 

[NEUTRON]

41 minutes ago, Raphy23 said:

white straight men are complaining they are being disadvantaged. So it's to get their votes.

 

and obviously they're not, they finally got a taste of what not being privileged feels like and threw a hissy fit.

Sums it all up pretty much. They were scared they would become the minority and flipped the f**k out at the thought

[Aethereal]

3 hours ago, Reginald said:

The way the Project 2025 intends to undo the entire civil rights era  This m*****f***er made it clear that he intends to unravel the entire country, and 1/3 of voters were too unbothered to even try and stop him.

I wish I could get off this sinking ship that I never wanted to be on. 

Pretty much much he outdid his entire last term in less than a week. The wall is definitely getting done, he already did 25% of it last term.

[Devin]

correct me if im wrong but he cant do anything about legislation that already passed by congress. 

 

the part to be fearful of is this tells his supporters he is working towards renormalizing discrimination & employers will now assume he has the power to remove it completely and begin to violate employment laws left and right. and mfs believed project 2025 was a myth.

[bad guy]

3 hours ago, Parachutes said:

 

I may be misunderstanding, but protections against hiring/employment discrimination are established by the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The Equal Rights and Opportunity Commission, which enforces those protections in the workplace, also falls under that act, and wouldn't be disbanded without an act of Congress. Trump targeting this specific executive order (LBJ's EO 11246, which is specific to federal contractors and subcontractors) is a scary demonstration of his intentions. But, it does not remove the civil rights protections all workers (in any workplace) are entitled to, since that is codified law and has been for 60 years. Congress, not even now, is not overturning the CRA; even if all Republicans somehow got behind it there wouldn't be enough votes (and as backwards as this country is, going that far absolutely would be political suicide in most cases). Still, I'd imagine that this administration will likely reduce civil rights enforcement efforts, hence this new executive order.

Yeah this is important to note because the tweet and subsequent headlines were making it seem like he undid the Civil Rights Act which he simply can't do. Employers and companies still cannot infringe on civil rights protections in the workforce, nor does it infringe on hiring anyone regardless of sex, race, ethnicity, sexuality, etc. This reads to me as basically stripping the hiring quotas set in place federally, as Johnson's EO basically said you have to have certain amount of women and so on. Now I'm assuming who gets hired will be entirely up to the federal contractors/subcontractors, so in theory if they wanted to hire only men they could since there would be nothing in place to make them hire anyone else. 

 

I understand the reactionary responses regarding anything he does but I think people need to be extremely clear in what Trump is doing instead of going into hysteria mode. It's not a winning strategy. In order for anything he does to get properly challenged, people need to be specific and concise in what he's doing or it'll just get ignored as being "overdramatic" (which is what hurt Dems a lot this election cycle). The reality is the Constitution will not be ratified (specifically in revoking amendments) and isn't going anywhere. And as much flack the SC gets, they've shown that they can go against Trump when the law simply isn't on his side. I have trust in our institutions (somewhat), but that's just my own optimism. I guess the more frustrating aspect here is that there won't be any chances to codify any social advancements with the makeup of our current Congress, so great job at the Dem majority four years ago for sitting on their asses yet again.

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[gagacasanova]

[Gorjesspazze9]

2 hours ago, Raphy23 said:

white straight men are complaining they are being disadvantaged. So it's to get their votes.

 

and obviously they're not, they finally got a taste of what not being privileged feels like and threw a hissy fit.

They want to be oppressed so bad😭 I got Co-workers who voted Trump that talk like their comfy suburban rights were ever endangered. 

[MusicLoverDude]

3 hours ago, Capris Groove said:

I wouldn't be surprised if a civil war breaks out in the next four years. America really is two countries.

This is why that Civil War movie was so successful last year. People knew what was coming 

[loveisdead9582]

3 hours ago, Romova99 said:

I feel like JD Vance is even worst for some reason 

 

Did you guys felt the same way back in 2016? It's truly concerning what is going on in America with this ******* and all of his people, I mean I don't know how the other half of the country can fight back these kind of stuff.

It didn't quite feel this bad but it was close. Back then we didn't know what we were getting into and MAGA was just figuring out what they could get away with. Now, they've had 4 years to come up with the worst stuff they could think of. Sensationalist titles aside, the fact that he can do this and had a plan ready to execute though is alarming. How may layers can he get rid of until he's able to start changing the constitution altogether?

 

@Parachutes @bad guy thank you both for the analysis. Any thoughts as to the long term impact or if this might open up other things for him to repeal?