news Trump's anti-trans EO: ban passport changes + trans women in women's shelters/prisons

[Princess Aurora]

The Blame game makes no sense. I agree Kamala wasn't a great candidate, but many Americans didn't care that Trumpet won. Sadly all of us will be affected. 

[Illuminati]

2 hours ago, bunnyeyes said:

cheering on the potential genocide of trans people to "own the left" is not the serve you think it is. 

Cheering on the potential genocide of trans people to "own Kamala" is not the serve they think it is either.

 

Certain people here have been cheering on Trump's victory to "own" the rich democrats who will be the least affected by this for months. Some refused to even discuss the damage a second Trump presidency would cause, because all of this project 2025 stuff was just "liberal fearmongering"

 

This is a tragedy

[XDNA]

5 hours ago, suburbannature said:

The way we tried to warn several of you. 

I can't with these chronically online wannabe radical leftists pretending they were supporting Kamala. 

They were dragging her for months thus helping their boy Trump. 

 

Nah losers, reap what you sowed and wear your red hat as loud and proud as you did during the campaign season. 

[State of Grace.]

And of course the Liberals here did not learn anything after their big fat L in November.

 

You just know they'll spend the next years crying about how "the world failed Momala" instead of actually working on good policies and finding good candidates that WIN elections. That party is DOOMED.

[Cain]

5 hours ago, Rogue_Redux said:

This is about to be the LONGEST 4 years. Buckle up! 

4 years? Good one 

[MattieB]

I really want maga atrl's take on this, all i see is gay maga avoiding this, black and latino maga avoiding trump rescinding biden's executive order seeking to advance educational and economic equity for black and Hispanic people

So what exactly did they vote for?

[Communion]

2 hours ago, Illuminati said:

Cheering on the potential genocide of trans people to "own Kamala" is not the serve they think it is either.

This doesn't work as a role reversal because no one actually thinks "Democrats need to go back to popular left wing policies so they can crush Republicans and win elections" in any material sense could be "cheering" for Trump.

 

You don't have a material grasp on reality. You're cheering for politicians who purposefully lost and villifying the people who begged them to try and win. 

[Communion]

2 hours ago, XDNA said:

Nah losers, reap what you sowed

Again, no one shows this level of cruelty and enjoyment for the suffering of powerless people quite like liberals.

 

Liberals enjoy people's fear and suffering. Progressives organize to try and protect people from suffering. 

[satellites.™]

[Mr. Blue_Shirt]

I love when liberals talk about how leftists would fight liberals and Democrats rather than Republicans, but at the same time they would run on these types of threads and post passive-aggressive "But but but Kamala" "You reap what you sow." on the first page for the sole purpose of fighting with leftists

 

It's going to be the longest decade on this site, and I'm already tired of it

[Illuminati]

4 minutes ago, Communion said:

Progressives organize to try and protect people from suffering. 

Online American left has yet to join true progressives that organize and actually do something aside from complaining and harrassing trans people who voted for Kamala. The finger can be pointed at anyone (and certainly at the complacent democrats) but there's no denying that people like you, who only larp as progressives, have done very little to get the average voter to join the cause.

 

And it wouldn't even take much since left politics are beneficial to everyone. But instead the boldest hammer and sickle avatars opt to play like an exclusive club that anyone interested to partake in isn't pure enough to be a part of. They fragment, exclude, demonize, blame everyone, wait to be convinced to do something, promise to maybe vote next election, end up not voting anyway because everyone who votes is a "genocide enabler."

 

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Liberals here did not learn anything after their big fat L in November.

You guys don't even see yourselves as part of the society Like sure take these anti trans news as a win against those damn liberals I guess? The people who allegedly don't enjoy other people's fear and suffering have spoken.

[Communion]

4 minutes ago, Illuminati said:

there's no denying that people like you, who only larp as progressives

Again, this doesn't work. 

 

You are posting from Lithuania. You've never met a working class American. You have no knowledge of how America works or the material experience of being American. This isn't inherently an issue. It's when using that relative position of privilege to scorn the powerless and defend the powerful that makes this brand of affluent liberalism problematic. 

 

You resent not getting the end goal you wanted and which would be in your interests of American foreign policy and thus work backwards scapegoating those who had no role in these things happening.

 

That's how you get to claiming something like a 3rd party voter in a deep blue state (me!) somehow caused Harris to lose instead of interrogating what it means when a politician purposefully bleeds votes from their core base by actively pursuing policy that is at odds with what they want. 

 

You posture and hope people will somehow think middle class white Lithuanian voices somehow matter more because they're the first to punch left and scapegoat poor Americans, as opposed to the voices of the millions poor, black and brown Americans that Democrats intentionally silenced and ignored when asking for help. 

 

You hate and have contempt for the average working class Americans - millions of poor trans people - while carrying water for people who helped facilitate Trump's win. 

 

[cuteboyzay]

"Kamala didn't lose because of sexism or racism! It's because she was the worse candidate! "
 

Now imagine EVERYTHING f*cked up that Trump has said and did during his run and act as if KAMALA said that. Would she still have won the way he did? NO! 

 

I swear the way y'all are ALSO minorities and just ruined the lives of even MORE minorities because some of you sheltered bigots couldn't stop sucking his d***! 

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[cuteboyzay]

3 hours ago, XDNA said:

I can't with these chronically online wannabe radical leftists pretending they were supporting Kamala. 

They were dragging her for months thus helping their boy Trump. 

 

Nah losers, reap what you sowed and wear your red hat as loud and proud as you did during the campaign season. 

No because the way they kept pressuring people to vote for Kamala, and then the NEXT POST completely trash her. I had to call out one of my best friends (whose a leftist) for it and always questioned why he kept highlighting her shortcomings to his 2,000 followers but NEVER Trump. Yet would tell people to vote for her in the next post. 
 

I will say, I still will NOT blame the Democratic Party/Leftists for Kamala losing. That's just the Right trying to deflect from the real issue that their President clinged onto so strongly to get their vote: Racism, Sexism, Xenophobia and Classism.

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[cuteboyzay]

7 hours ago, Odette Violet said:

this is just the start. Wonder what those Pro Trumper gays are thinking now, yall next 

Thinking? That's quite optimistic of you for you to think that's what they were doing in the first place. 

[Reginald]

No guilt on my conscience! I wasn't one of the ones too busy arguing with strangers online about foreign wars, to support my trans friends and loves ones at HOME.

 

 

You say you want a revolution, and I say that you're full of s***

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[MattieB]

[Illuminati]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

Again, this doesn't work. 

 

You are posting from Lithuania. You've never met a working class American. You have no knowledge of how America works or the material experience of being American. This isn't inherently an issue. It's when using that relative position of privilege to scorn the powerless and defend the powerful that makes this brand of affluent liberalism problematic. 

 

You resent not getting the end goal you wanted and which would be in your interests of American foreign policy and thus work backwards scapegoating those who had no role in these things happening.

 

That's how you get to claiming something like a 3rd party voter in a deep blue state (me!) somehow caused Harris to lose instead of interrogating what it means when a politician purposefully bleeds votes from their core base by actively pursuing policy that is at odds with what they want. 

 

You posture and hope people will somehow think middle class white Lithuanian voices somehow matter more because they're the first to punch left and scapegoat poor Americans, as opposed to the voices of the millions poor, black and brown Americans that Democrats intentionally silenced and ignored when asking for help. 

 

You hate and have contempt for the average working class Americans - millions of poor trans people - while carrying water for people who helped facilitate Trump's win.

Diva, you love to make Lithuania sound like some far away imaginary (and apparently rich? as opposed to the US?) land. Europe isn't that far away, Americans are everywhere.

 

And once again bringing in the exclusion, "everyone who is not me is a liberal." I don't even pretend to be American, I rarely insert myself in these conversations and try to make it clear every time that my opinion is coming from outside.

 

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You hate and have contempt for the average working class Americans - millions of poor trans people - while carrying water for people who helped facilitate Trump's win. 

This is literally your position in this thread, the contempt is coming from inside the house. I am arguing against this.

[Vermillion]

The fight on these first 3 pages was ten times worse during the 2016 primary on here…

 

with a lot of the same arguments.

 

I don't see any of these divisions healing by 2028.

 

The only way that could happen is with a strong enough candidate to unite the various factions.

 

But our entire bench is abysmal and the DNC is going to be force feeding us all the worst of all of them,

 

Mr. IDF volunteer who covered up a murder, Josh Shapiro.

[Pinocchiho]

Leftists still arguing with liberals. Your beef is with the nazis now. Run along. 

[Vermillion]

6 minutes ago, Reginald said:

No guilt on my conscience! I wasn't one of the ones too busy arguing with strangers online about foreign wars, to support my trans friends and loves ones at HOME.

Oh! This argument!

 

Stop sending bombs to Israel whose IDF is lying about civilian casualty ratios and whose leader is lying about still wanting a two-state solution so we can support our trans friends at home with that money instead!

 

See how this works?

[Anthinos]

I will never understand people like Blaire White or Dave Rubin. We should be grateful that we have these rights in the West and defend them instead they sacrifice their rights for what?

 

It is sad what is happening in the USA and it affects us all. Here in Germany we always say that everything that happens in the USA will eventually come to us and it's true. This shift to the right affects the entire West. 

[Vermillion]

The only solid conclusion I'm getting from this thread is that Biden won solely on Covid in 2020.

 

And that Dems are going to lose in 2028 unless there's drastic changes between now and then in both domestic and foreign policy in the party's platform. And who they fundraise from.

[MattieB]

1 hour ago, Communion said:

Again, no one shows this level of cruelty and enjoyment for the suffering of powerless people quite like liberals.

 

Liberals enjoy people's fear and suffering. Progressives organize to try and protect people from suffering. 

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[Gaia]

8 hours ago, SmittenCake said:

I am immune from feeling any guilt for something that is out of my hands. You seem to cope by blaming everything on Leftists tho. lulz.

The exact same way you blame everything on "neolibs"