news Biden considered pardoning Trump, no longer speaking with Nancy Pelosi

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[KingWitch]

I ..The Golden Girls are fighting !

 

 

 

[ChooseyLover]

Is it me or is this article painting him as some kind of unsung hero? The nerve... 

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he privately mused about the idea of pardoning Trump as a magnanimous move

Ok if this happens then we DEFINITELY live in a simulation

[Communion]

[Arrows]

After 4 years I have zero idea who Biden is and what he stands for

[Princess Aurora]

No comment

[Chemist]

that would have been chaotic af

[Gladiator]

The real tragedy was him making it into the white house as president in the first place.

We would have voted anyone they put up in, and the landslide votes represent that.

The way that backfired.

We are in the position we are in today because of him.

He is by far the worst president in my eyes, and that includes Trump.

Biden the bozo.

The biggest lame duck.

Although, congrats to him. I guess not speaking to Nancy is a win.

 

 

Edited Friday at 02:08 PM by Gladiator

[John Slayne]

the two fossils. Trump being third 

[Blue Monday]

The ultimate LOSER , licking the boots of someone who disparaged his "beloved" son and sending a big "F YOU" to everyone who held their noses and voted for him after completely defaulting on multiple campaign promises and months of inaction. He deserves to leave office in disgrace, and is to blame for the next administration gaining power. Nancy isn't great either but her forcing him out was the right call, she should have done it much sooner. 

[rac7d]

1 hour ago, Gladiator said:

The real tragedy was him making it into the white house as president in the first place.

We would have voted anyone they put up in, and the landslide votes represent that.

The way that backfired.

We are in the position we are in today because of him.

He is by far the worst president in my eyes, and that includes Trump.

Biden the bozo.

The biggest lame duck.

Although, congrats to him. I guess not speaking to Nancy is a win.

 

 

It should have been Bernie 

[Dreajae]

More senseless babble in this thread. Despite what yall say, Biden has improved in the economy and yall have made far too many excuses on why a YT supremacist won with deliberate lies he was caught in on that very stage.

 

Yalls people are racist and looked for every reason to not vote Dem out of fear that another minority group would be prioritized. Alot of yall would rather stay close to the bottom as long as you can guarantee that black people have it the worst. This is literally embedded in American history. We wouldn't even have social security if Dems didn't frame it a certain way to make the white majority more comfortable by saying that sharecroppers and servers (black majority jobs at the time) wouldn't qualify.

[MattieB]

4 minutes ago, Dreajae said:

More senseless babble in this thread. Despite what yall say, Biden has improved in the economy and yall have made far too many excuses on why a YT supremacist won with deliberate lies he was caught in on that very stage.

 

Yalls people are racist and looked for every reason to not vote Dem out of fear that another minority group would be prioritized. Alot of yall would rather stay close to the bottom as long as you can guarantee that black people have it the worst. This is literally embedded in American history. We wouldn't even have social security if Dems didn't frame it a certain way to make the white majority more comfortable by saying that sharecroppers and servers (black majority jobs at the time) wouldn't qualify.

Can i ....Can I hug you for this? Effortless and surgically accurate read

[Vermillion]

The studies on cultural resentment support the reasoning being brought up here on Trump's win while completely ignoring the divisions in the Democratic party that were a bigger factor in Kamala's loss.

 

Trump's win and Kamala's loss were for entirely different reasons. 

 

Until the Democratic party is more unified and motivated to turn out on BOTH foreign and domestic policy this is going to continue being an issue.

 

Particularly because the Electoral College disadvantages for the left are going to continue getting worse due to NIMBY housing crisis policy. Texas and Florida are going to be gaining Electoral representation for moving patterns.

[Blue Monday]

40 minutes ago, Dreajae said:

More senseless babble in this thread. Despite what yall say, Biden has improved in the economy and yall have made far too many excuses on why a YT supremacist won with deliberate lies he was caught in on that very stage.

 

Yalls people are racist and looked for every reason to not vote Dem out of fear that another minority group would be prioritized. Alot of yall would rather stay close to the bottom as long as you can guarantee that black people have it the worst. This is literally embedded in American history. We wouldn't even have social security if Dems didn't frame it a certain way to make the white majority more comfortable by saying that sharecroppers and servers (black majority jobs at the time) wouldn't qualify.

He did himself no favors with the way these economic wins were communicated (or rather, weren't) to the American people. He allowed the other side to run the table messaging wise, not to mention his justice department completely dragged their feet on neutralizing Trump and rightfully punishing him for January 6th and the classified documents case. As a result, Trump was allowed to run and ultimately win. Perhaps his biggest sin is not stepping aside for the most recent election sooner, especially since it was clear to the people around him that he was not up to the task (I'm not even talking about the cognition part, he just could not keep up with Trump on that debate stage in general). For someone with a lifetime in politics and who painted themselves as a shrewd political operator, he had to have known the optics and the physical contrast was going to win the day. So while I give you that the rise of the right and resurgence of White Supremacy was something that not a lot of people were going to be able to successfully defeat, there was a lot of wasted time spent on ego and placating to the middle-right that could have given the Dems a bigger head start going into the election. 

[NEUTRON]

44 minutes ago, Dreajae said:

More senseless babble in this thread. Despite what yall say, Biden has improved in the economy and yall have made far too many excuses on why a YT supremacist won with deliberate lies he was caught in on that very stage.

 

Yalls people are racist and looked for every reason to not vote Dem out of fear that another minority group would be prioritized. Alot of yall would rather stay close to the bottom as long as you can guarantee that black people have it the worst. This is literally embedded in American history. We wouldn't even have social security if Dems didn't frame it a certain way to make the white majority more comfortable by saying that sharecroppers and servers (black majority jobs at the time) wouldn't qualify.

SAY IT AGAIN

[DAP]

How soon can we expect Dems and the media to rehab Trump as they did with the Reagans and the Bush family?

 

[makeme]

2 hours ago, Gladiator said:

 

He is by far the worst president in my eyes, and that includes Trump.

 

 

 

Y'all just say anything at this point 

[Ewan Chaos]

I wonder how Biden's stans would have twisted themselves into knots to paint Biden pardoning Trump as a good thing when they claim to hate Trump

[Marianah Adkins]

I- what will the resistlibtards do now 

[Relampago.]

2 hours ago, Dreajae said:

More senseless babble in this thread. Despite what yall say, Biden has improved in the economy and yall have made far too many excuses on why a YT supremacist won with deliberate lies he was caught in on that very stage.

 

Yalls people are racist and looked for every reason to not vote Dem out of fear that another minority group would be prioritized. Alot of yall would rather stay close to the bottom as long as you can guarantee that black people have it the worst. This is literally embedded in American history. We wouldn't even have social security if Dems didn't frame it a certain way to make the white majority more comfortable by saying that sharecroppers and servers (black majority jobs at the time) wouldn't qualify.

This argument made more sense in 2016 when POC weren't flocking to Trump. If a white supremacist who hates POC can win, how bad does that make Biden? 

 

I don't really see the argument here when Black-centered issues like BLM helped Biden win in 2020, but since he didn't really do much to improve quality of life for Black people, let alone most people, people fled to Trump again. 

We have to stop blaming everything on racism, sure, lots of Trump voters are racist. But let me tell you, lots of neoliberal Democratic voters are too and many policies that they support do, in fact, harm Black people. It really isn't that cut and dry. 

 

It's also not really as easy as saying Trump lied and is racist either. We just had a president who was anti-busing and worked closely with literal white supremacist in his time as a politician. He had total apathy for the suffering of Palestinian people. He actually said if you don't vote for him, you're not Black (probably just a senile thought, but, hey..) He lied about running the damn country, since his handlers had to take over for him while he was sundowning.

 

I get you're scared and upset about Trump, as many of us are, but I hope you open your eyes to the bigger picture here. Democrats aren't the pro-Black party you want them to be. This isn't the 1960s anymore, Black people, and everyone else deserve better than what both parties are offering now.

[Dreajae]

18 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

This argument made more sense in 2016 when POC weren't flocking to Trump. If a white supremacist who hates POC can win, how bad does that make Biden? 

 

I don't really see the argument here when Black-centered issues like BLM helped Biden win in 2020, but since he didn't really do much to improve quality of life for Black people, let alone most people, people fled to Trump again. 

We have to stop blaming everything on racism, sure, lots of Trump voters are racist. But let me tell you, lots of neoliberal Democratic voters are too and many policies that they support do, in fact, harm Black people. It really isn't that cut and dry. 

 

It's also not really as easy as saying Trump lied and is racist either. We just had a president who was anti-busing and worked closely with literal white supremacist in his time as a politician. He had total apathy for the suffering of Palestinian people. He actually said if you don't vote for him, you're not Black (probably just a senile thought, but, hey..) He lied about running the damn country, since his handlers had to take over for him while he was sundowning.

 

I get you're scared and upset about Trump, as many of us are, but I hope you open your eyes to the bigger picture here. Democrats aren't the pro-Black party you want them to be. This isn't the 1960s anymore, Black people, and everyone else deserve better than what both parties are offering now.

 

Are you serious with your first paragraph? Don't cast off POC and white poor people's thirst for power and proximity on Biden being a terrible candidate who had to convince you to stop voting against centuries worth of policies that never benefited the majority outside of being white and favored for mediocrity.

 

Yall are attributing everything to the surface level of BLM, Gaza and grocery prices when the majority have been doing this over the last 200 years, and allowed key Republicn figures to destabilize the economy and disenfranchise everyone else under the assumption that it didn't hurt them as much. Yall are going to suffer this term and I'm not here for yall crying about Biden being such a bad candidate that you needed more convincing to not jump off a building and hurt the collective of America. 

[Vermillion]

Seeing as this thread's getting completely derailed from the original subject even though it's a great discussion for the general politics thread, all I'll say is based on the data out so far the things to factor into Trump's win so far are, in this order…

 

1) Biden for lying about his original promise to not run for a second term

 

2) Transphobic Working Class Latino Men that couldn't be bothered to look up what a tariff was

 

3) Millennials and Gen Z that stayed home because we didn't institute an arms embargo on Israel

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everything this man is doing...