news YouGov: Nearly 30% of Biden 2020 voters that Harris lost cited Gaza as their #1 issue

[Communion]

 

[ImpressMeMuch]

No way!!!

[dman4life]

Kamala really played herself by not breaking with Biden. Sunny Hostin gave her an easy layup and she fumbled it hard!

[ZeroSuitBritney]

But GenocideTRL told us that no one cared enough about what's happening in Gaza for it to affect their decision to vote!?!?

[Chemist]

And as of now it seems that they were right!

[Cruel Summer]

So, you mean, then, when I was told that no people in real life would decide not to vote for her because of this…? Huh.

 

Well now we're all ******, but hey, at least we've got Liz Cheney on our side! 
 

Democrats, I swear to god 

[Bloo]

It’s also worth noting that, among these voters, they still preferred Harris to Biden by 4 points (even though they chose not to vote for her). This complicates the claim it was just because of abject sexism. No, voters had a legitimate policy concern Kamala chose to ignore. 

 

 

[Onyxmage]

Kamala was still Biden's vice president. Imagine if she broke with him on foreign policy during his administration then had to go out and still do things she disagreed with?  She was basically put in an impossible position but yes lets elect the man who used the term Palestinians as a slur.  

[Bloo]

Just now, Onyxmage said:

Kamala was still Biden's vice president. Imagine if she broke with him on foreign policy during his administration then had to go out and still do things she disagreed with?  She was basically put in an impossible position but yes lets elect the man who used the term Palestinians as a slur.  

So? What was Biden going to do at that point? Fire her? He’s the most disliked sitting presidential in modern history. If he started a public feud with her, it would have only served to help her re-election chances. Kamala disagreeing with Biden on genocide is a less tenuous relationship than Trump trying to have Mike Pence killed. I think a disagreement would have been alright in the grand scheme of things. 

[Onyxmage]

3 minutes ago, Bloo said:

So? What was Biden going to do at that point? Fire her? He's the most disliked sitting presidential in modern history. If he started a public feud with her, it would have only served to help her re-election chances. Kamala disagreeing with Biden on genocide is a less tenuous relationship than Trump trying to have Mike Pence killed. I think a disagreement would have been alright in the grand scheme of things. 

No sitting vice president would EVER go against the current presidents international agenda. That will never happen.   

[Bloo]

Just now, Onyxmage said:

No sitting vice president would EVER go against the current presidents international agenda. That will never happen.   

That’s not relevant.

 

Kamala should have done it because it could have won her the election. What she was likely to do or not do isn’t the point (everyone saying she should have distanced herself knew she likely wouldn’t). Her refusal to do so was empirically stupid and had no rational strategy behind it. People hated Biden. Refusing to distance yourself from a widely-hated president is bad strategy. This is basic logic. 

[Communion]

1 minute ago, Onyxmage said:

No sitting vice president would EVER go against the current presidents international agenda. That will never happen.   

 

KAMALA = PANNED FLOP !

[Onyxmage]

Just now, Bloo said:

That's not relevant.

 

Kamala should have done it because it could have won her the election. What she was likely to do or not do isn't the point (everyone saying she should have distanced herself knew she likely wouldn't). Her refusal to do so was empirically stupid and had no rational strategy behind it. People hated Biden. Refusing to distance yourself from a widely-hated president is bad strategy. This is basic logic. 

Like I said she was put in an impossible position. I can only imagine the pressure she faced from both sides. She still did amazing regardless. Now we will have an insane person in office that probably can't even spell Palestine good luck to them.

[Onyxmage]

2 minutes ago, Communion said:

 

KAMALA = PANNED FLOP !

She definitely flopped but I still support ha. 

[Fleahive]

There are more Christian democrats that would side with Israel. She wasn't winning either way on this issue. These polls mean nothing as we've seen every pre-election. 

[GraceRandolph]

1 minute ago, Fleahive said:

There are more Christian democrats that would side with Israel.

Any proof of this claim?

[Bloo]

1 minute ago, Fleahive said:

There are more Christian democrats that would side with Israel. She wasn't winning either way on this issue. These polls mean nothing as we've seen every pre-election. 

Wrong. 
 

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“Voters who were with Biden in 2020 and stuck with Harris in 2024 were asked if breaking with him on Gaza would make them more or less enthusiastic about voting for Harris. By a 35 to 5 margin, they said doing so would have made them more enthusiastic to vote for her, with the remainder saying it would have made no difference.”

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/kamala-harris-gaza-israel-biden-election-poll

 

No Kamala voter was voting for her because of her staunch support of Israel. Y’all need to turn off CNN if you still buy this nonsense. 

[Fleahive]

3 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

Any proof of this claim?

Anecdotal evidence but most Christian's side with Israel regardless "it's holy land" as my black female supervisor exclaimed when discussing the events of the October attack. And millions of white American Jewish people have been heavily pro Israel. I'm gonna trust what I see with my eyes vs another poll trying to cause discourse. 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by Fleahive

[Johnny Cash]

The "Kamala only lost because America is racist and sexist" narrative crumbling to dust the more details we learn about the election

[JC.]

That poll sample size is like 604 people as opposed to the possibly 6 million who didn't vote for Harris. I think that too small of a sample size and the percentage is lower 

[Happylittlepunk]

She needed to focus more on the economy. It's the only thing that mattered this past election anyway. That's why trump won. Yeah we hear a lot noise and barking about Israel and Gaza etc. but people turned out to vote based on the economy. 

[ultraviolence.xx]

1 hour ago, Fleahive said:

Anecdotal evidence but most Christian's side with Israel regardless "it's holy land" as my black female supervisor exclaimed when discussing the events of the October attack. And millions of white American Jewish people have been heavily pro Israel. I'm gonna trust what I see with my eyes vs another poll trying to cause discourse. 

 

global warming isn't real because it was cold today teas.

Edited 10 hours ago by ultraviolence.xx

[Princess Aurora]

Also, add the student debt. I agree she should have publicly shamed Netanyahu in public and exposed him as being buddies with Trumpet and mentioned several times what happened in 2017-2018 in Israel. Furthermore, her team should have invited her to Joe Rogan's podcast and answered the most uncomfortable questions just to debunk the weird deep-state conspiracy theory. It is what it is now and we're all effed 

[beautiful player]

Meanwhile Biden-Harris were hard at work negotiating a ceasefire behind the scenes. 

Leftists really shot themselves in the foot. 

[Havoc]

10 hours ago, Bloo said:

That's not relevant.

 

Kamala should have done it because it could have won her the election. What she was likely to do or not do isn't the point (everyone saying she should have distanced herself knew she likely wouldn't). Her refusal to do so was empirically stupid and had no rational strategy behind it. People hated Biden. Refusing to distance yourself from a widely-hated president is bad strategy. This is basic logic. 

There is no guranteee that throwing Biden under the bus would have worked. It's possible she  would have looked messy and an opportunistic.  

Edited 1 hour ago by Havoc