news Germany defends Greenland sovereignty. Hypocrisy with its stance on Palestine?

[brazil]

  On 1/9/2025 at 4:17 PM, MP3 said:

I never tried to explain why or how the Hamas is there. I'm stating the actual situation in Palestine versus the actual situation of Greenland. One is a religious-controlled authoritarian place and the other one is a fully democratic secular autonomous territory among a Western respected and full of allies Kingdom. The impact of a military invasion on Greenland would cause a global chaos way more intense and divisive due to a fully NATO interior invasion.

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Nobody is denying that geopolitically it's much more interesting for Germany to defend Greenland or that that it makes more sense, what people are arguing is the hypocrisy of  trying to use legal grounds for this defense while taking such approach as to not even recognize Palestine as a country. 

 

Your argument reeks of trying to justify crimes on the basis that the victims were not civilized. "That person can have their house invaded, they're not civilized enough" / "that person can be murdered he's brown". It's a very dangerous way of thinking.

[MP3]

  On 1/9/2025 at 7:59 PM, brazil said:

Nobody is denying that geopolitically it's much more interesting for Germany to defend Greenland or that that it makes more sense, what people are arguing is the hypocrisy of  trying to use legal grounds for this defense while taking such approach as to not even recognize Palestine as a country. 

 

Your argument reeks of trying to justify crimes on the basis that the victims were not civilized. "That person can have their house invaded, they're not civilized enough" / "that person can be murdered he's brown". It's a very dangerous way of thinking.

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Classic victimization behaviour when it comes to contradict an argument. There was no question of race in my responses, you're the one who brought it up two times in your argument. My only point was to highlight the fact that an invasion between members of NATO, moreover, advanced and politically stable countries, would be much more harmful to global stability than yet another attack on a region of the world where they are in perpetual conflict and never really seems to want to get out of it. The rhetoric of equalizing events on the basis of universality should not be taken seriously as it is factually devoid of verifiability.

[brazil]

  On 1/9/2025 at 8:14 PM, MP3 said:

Classic victimization behaviour when it comes to contradict an argument. There was no question of race in my responses, you're the one who brought it up two times in your argument. My only point was to highlight the fact that an invasion between members of NATO, moreover, advanced and politically stable countries, would be much more harmful to global stability than yet another attack on a region of the world where they are in perpetual conflict and never really seems to want to get out of it. The rhetoric of equalizing events on the basis of universality should not be taken seriously as it is factually devoid of verifiability.

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Oh no, I brought race to a subject where clearly race is a matter. 

 

You're the one who initially said that "Israel and Palestine are disputing a territory while there is no international consensus about their borders while Greenland is well known recognized by the international community to be an autonomous territory among the kingdom of Denmark. " 

 

And then tried to divert the discussion when I've pointed out that Israel's continous infringement of international law is undisputed and confirmed by international courts. Get out of here!

[Communion]

  On 1/9/2025 at 4:02 PM, MP3 said:

You compare a fully democratic kingdom with well established equal rights among all citizens

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And how exactly was Palestine when Zionist settlers began buying up land? 

 

Hypocrisy like this lowkey makes me as an American want to takeover Canada and Greenland. 

If you're not gonna ally with leftists Americans as they fight from inside the belly of the beast, **** it. Colonize that ass too so you get the America you actually want.

 

Congratulations as your citizenship status as a soon-to-be-American, sister. 

[stevyy]

  On 1/10/2025 at 12:44 AM, Communion said:

And how exactly was Palestine when Zionist settlers began buying up land? 

 

Hypocrisy like this lowkey makes me as an American want to takeover Canada and Greenland. 

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That's really sad. 

[ClashAndBurn]

The Rules-Based Order was only ever meant to benefit America and anyone it deemed as allies. When you have a political system as volatile and reactionary as the US, who those allies are can change within one election. Since the US elected and gave a popular vote mandate to a buffoon who idolizes autocrats and trashes traditional alliances, that's what you get. A far-right authoritarian government that only values its relationships with genocidaires and dictators like Netanyahu and Putin. Invading Ukraine wasn't consistent with Rules-Based Order under Joe Biden, but now it's permissible under Trump whose view is that might is right. Greenland was never under threat of invasion and annexation before, but now that the global community has more or less given up on mitigating climate change (due to the double election of Donald Trump, climate denier extraordinaire), the only option is to plunder and hoard as many natural resources as possible and secure newly-opening shipping lanes as early as possible while the ice caps and glaciers melt away.

 

Supporting Israel is bipartisan, so genocide is permitted under Rules-Based Order and is not subject to the whims of elections due to both US parties' enthusiastic support. The West also does not view Palestine as a sovereign country, nor do they view Palestinians as human beings. It's a very easy contradiction to accept when you frankly don't see it as one.

[Princess Aurora]

  On 1/9/2025 at 2:08 PM, MP3 said:

Israel and Palestine are disputing a territory while there is no international consensus about their borders while Greenland is well known recognized by the international community to be an autonomous territory among the kingdom of Denmark. 

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This is true because the Global community is split over Palestine. However, bombing and killing innocent children or civilians makes no sense. I agree about Greenland since it's a sovereign state just like Ukraine.