news Idaho Republicans planning to ask Supreme Court to overturn Gay Marriage

[Sergi91]

 

[Vixen Eyes]

are we surprised?

[a_d_22]

As far right as Idaho is, if this actually ever happened and it did get overturned there is a real possibility that there would be electoral consequences. Outside of the mormons in the southern part of the state, the vast majority of conservatives in Idaho (and most states out west) are really just libertarians who want their guns, are pro-choice, and support gay marriage. Montana overwhelmingly passing their abortion referendum is probably the strongest example of this, and no way would people in Boise and Idaho Falls let this happen.

[IsidoraMarí]

I told the Trump gays/lesbians that they will immediately attack gay marriage not trans people's rights to exist.

 

So many transphobic gays voted republican in an effort to cancel trans people as a whole, instead they're stopping prisoners from transitioning for free, which i agree with, and stopping puberty blockers for kids, which do render children infertile and I also think is unjust. I doubt they can go further against trans rights while the one issue the gays fought for decades is destroyed in a year with the help of the cis gays, stabbing themselves in the back thinking that they're slitting the throats of the trans community.

[Velvet Night]

It was obvious that gay marriage was next after Roe was overturned. 

I'm sure they will go after interracial marriage and birth control soon as well! 

[Scheissex]

I doubt this will get very far. If it does, it will just become another losing issue for republicans the way that abortion did. 

[Aston Martin]

This has been obvious since the day the Dobbs decision leaked. Now as to how I think the court would be split on it: 

 

Thomas and Alito (or whoever Trump replaces them with since I see one or both of them retiring soon) would want to overturn. I think Roberts would too since he opposed it initially. 

 

The 3 liberal justices wouldn't want to overturn it obviously. 
 

Of the three remaining justices, Gorsuch is the most likely to side with the liberals. ACB is the least likely. I think Cavanaugh would overturn but may be more persuadable than ACB. 

[Reginald]

Calling someone's life "Illegitimate" And people wonder why I am a rabid, obnoxious atheist who denounces religion at every opportunity. These bigots would kill us all, if the supreme court said it was okay.

[Beyonnaise]

I found it so interesting that JD Vance said that comment about aiming for the "normal gay guy vote" on Joe Rogan.

 

Republicans realize how unpopular going against gay marriage is with mainstream normies, but they are now trying to pretend that's not what they actually think, in the same way they pretended they wanted abortion "left up to the states" when they really just wanted it outlawed.

 

Rogan actually takes Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh to task on gay marriage and they usually just go silent because they know their actual views are out of step with their audience. But this is who the GOP really are, they think we're all disgusting degenerates and they want every gay marriage certificate delegitimized. The Gays For Trump will learn quick that they're not gonna pick them as one of the good ones to give a pass to.

[vuelve88]

28 minutes ago, Scheissex said:

another losing issue for republicans the way that abortion did. 

Losing where? Trump was reelected 

[Headlock]

55 minutes ago, IsidoraMarí said:

I told the Trump gays/lesbians that they will immediately attack gay marriage not trans people's rights to exist.

 

So many transphobic gays voted republican in an effort to cancel trans people as a whole, instead they're stopping prisoners from transitioning for free, which i agree with, and stopping puberty blockers for kids, which do render children infertile and I also think is unjust. I doubt they can go further against trans rights while the one issue the gays fought for decades is destroyed in a year with the help of the cis gays, stabbing themselves in the back thinking that they're slitting the throats of the trans community.

It sounds like you're one of the transphobic gays…

[superglowy]

1 hour ago, Scheissex said:

I doubt this will get very far. If it does, it will just become another losing issue for republicans the way that abortion did. 

They control all three branches of Government and have the Supreme Court. Where are they losing exactly?

[IsidoraMarí]

29 minutes ago, Headlock said:

It sounds like you're one of the transphobic gays…

I'm trans... lol

[woohoo]

This won't affect republicans in 2026. The straights and the gays for Trump won't care because it doesn't affect them and most straight people have an underlying covered up hatred for gay people they would never verbalize but will in the voting booth. This election proved white women and most men are out for themselves and themselves only. 

[Scheissex]

12 minutes ago, superglowy said:

They control all three branches of Government and have the Supreme Court. Where are they losing exactly?

 

45 minutes ago, vuelve88 said:

Losing where? Trump was reelected 

I said losing issue. 

 

If the right to an abortion can win a majority vote even in red states like a Florida and Ohio, then it's clear that republicans picked the wrong hill to die on. The same will happen with gay marriage. 

[vuelve88]

3 minutes ago, Scheissex said:

 

I said losing issue. 

Ummm okay  that will really show them 

 

[NoOneDiesFromLove]

Religion is such a stain in humanity like what the **** do you mean "illegitimate"????

[JennyWayne]

Asking as a non-American: how would this work exactly? Wasn't a bill that codifies same-sex marriage passed by Congress during the Biden administration?

[Rep2000]

2 hours ago, Scheissex said:

I doubt this will get very far. If it does, it will just become another losing issue for republicans the way that abortion did. 

You do realize that they won on their abortion front, right? Women are now dying before they can get an abortion that could save their life 

[GhostBox]

But I was told many times on this forum this wouldn't happen and we were all just fear mongering  💀

[Vermillion]

2 hours ago, JennyWayne said:

Asking as a non-American: how would this work exactly? Wasn't a bill that codifies same-sex marriage passed by Congress during the Biden administration?

It was but that's not stopping this SCOTUS.

[Cruel Summer]

2 hours ago, JennyWayne said:

Asking as a non-American: how would this work exactly? Wasn't a bill that codifies same-sex marriage passed by Congress during the Biden administration?

You're correct. They would have to have a legal challenge that includes that law. From my understanding, it would be difficult to legally justify a ruling that repeals the entirety of that law and also overrules the Obergefell decision that gave us marriage equality, and the law was made to be relatively robust; the most specific weakness I can find is that there's a provision that compels individual states to recognize marriages that are performed in other states. The part of the law that influences how marriage is defined federally is less susceptible to challenges of constitutionality than that part, but they'd essentially need to go after both. It's not impossible for this to come to pass. However, marriage equality is broadly quite popular in the US today, and it may not be a battle that Republicans pursue as fervently as abortion simply because, in all honesty, they have less of a complex about it because it's not as in-your-face obviously about the control of women's bodies (which, to be quite frank, is the impetus behind the entire modern conservative American ethos). It's still about that for them in a roundabout way, but because it's less obvious, their voter base doesn't really make that connection.

 

But in the end, if this court chooses to hear a challenge to that law, I don't have high hopes that it will survive. The law, the constitution, and precedent don't matter at all to the Roberts court - the six conservative justices simply want to remake America in the image of a Federalist Society dream, and they have the absolute power to do so because we refuse to hold them accountable and because Democrats have no power anymore to hold them accountable anyway.

[45seconds]

5 hours ago, a_d_22 said:

As far right as Idaho is, if this actually ever happened and it did get overturned there is a real possibility that there would be electoral consequences. Outside of the mormons in the southern part of the state, the vast majority of conservatives in Idaho (and most states out west) are really just libertarians who want their guns, are pro-choice, and support gay marriage. Montana overwhelmingly passing their abortion referendum is probably the strongest example of this, and no way would people in Boise and Idaho Falls let this happen.

If abortion didn't sway yhrm left...then no. At most they would vote for gay marriage in their state to be legal and move on. This would have to be coupled with economic turmoil for it to have a lasting impact. 

[Headlock]

5 hours ago, IsidoraMarí said:

I'm trans... lol

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 instead they're stopping prisoners from transitioning for free, which i agree with, and stopping puberty blockers for kids, which do render children infertile and I also think is unjust.

So am I reading this wrong then, why as a trans person would you promote right-wing transphobic talking points 

[Yog]

Well.. it's what y'all wanted