base talk LG7 NEXT MONTH: Gaga still quiet about it. Why?

[Florence Belch]

We are talking about the same woman and label that released Chromatica 20-21 days after revealing its new release date, not to be a party-pooper to all the conspiracists on here

 

Edited Tuesday at 07:13 PM by Florence Belch

[Giorgoc]

1 hour ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

yes, adding 4 songs to an album you created years ago and after the vinyls were already pressed is exactly the same as being too scared to announce your album you've been teasing for 7 months because your lead single flopped, there's no hype from the gp, and your label is forcing changes to avoid another bomb

 

Oh? You're in contact with her and know she's scared? That's crazy, tell us more.

Most albums are announced before the lead is even out, so if she didn't intend to wait a long while she would've announced it before Disease flopped.

 

50 minutes ago, Riverbank said:

She's clearly "recalibrating" after Disease barely made a dent on the charts. The video linked in the OP is basically just her boasting about the song's stats without any insight about the creative process or any kind of behind-the-scenes tidbits. She obviously cares about chart achievements more than artistic integrity despite what her fans want you to believe.

You heard it here folks! Whenever a singer doesn't release BTS of a song's creation it means the don't have artistic integrity.

Afaik she released a long ass video explaining how her flop lead was created, so what is the truth?

[toast]

I think she's just letting DWAS have its moment - maybe the massive success has delayed the rollout a bit. I have a hard time believing the entire album sound/concept hinged on one single that was released 1 month before the holiday freeze.

[JackOfHearts]

I bet the initial plan was to kickstart 2025 with a new single to go with the album announcement. She and her team probably did not anticipate DWAS to have such a slow burn, so I bet they've had to delay the next single to avoid it being cannibalized, and now that DWAS is on her album it's pretty much… well, they have 2 singles out already, so we might not get a third til the album drops.

[ScorpiosGroove]

40 minutes ago, Giorgoc said:

Oh? You're in contact with her and know she's scared? That's crazy, tell us more.

what else do you call the refusal of announcing an album that's supposed to come out next month ? 

 

43 minutes ago, Giorgoc said:

Most albums are announced before the lead is even out, so if she didn't intend to wait a long while she would've announced it before Disease flopped.

most albums don't have a random collab  the artist explicitly said wouldn't be on the album suddenly tacked on it bc the lead bombed, yet here we are 

[Giorgoc]

1 minute ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

what else do you call the refusal of announcing an album that's supposed to come out next month ? 

 

most albums don't have a random collab  the artist explicitly said wouldn't be on the album suddenly tacked on it bc the lead bombed, yet here we are 

As has been posted before, Chromatica announcement to original release date was 39 days, same as Joanne. She still has a couple weeks left to announce.

If she doesn't, then you're right and probably label pressure got to her.

[Riverbank]

33 minutes ago, Giorgoc said:

You heard it here folks! Whenever a singer doesn't release BTS of a song's creation it means the don't have artistic integrity.

Afaik she released a long ass video explaining how her flop lead was created, so what is the truth?

It might be me but when an artist gets to celebrate their success, the natural thing to do would be taking the opportunity to share the story behind the creation of the song instead of blabbing about Remy Ma records like "first female to score #1 hits in 3 decades"  It's tacky af and highlights how uninspired and insipid the whole thing really feels. And it's even more laughable when you remember she couldn't even achieve that record on her own.

 

Good thing that she felt differently about Disease, but she seemingly retracted those feelings really quick when she tried to revoke its lead single status in favor of Bruno's song

[RideOrDie]

Just now, Riverbank said:

It might be me but when an artist gets to celebrate their success, the natural thing to do would be taking the opportunity to share the story behind the creation of the song instead of blabbing about Remy Ma records like "first female to score #1 hits in 3 decades"  It's tacky af and highlights how uninspired and insipid the whole thing really feels. And it's even more laughable when you remember she couldn't even achieve that record on her own.

 

Good thing that she felt differently about Disease, but she seemingly retracted those feelings really quick when she tried to revoke its lead single status in favor of Bruno's song

y'all are insufferable, they shared the story of the creation of the song many, many times before. she's obviously proud of her record breaking achievement and wants to thank people and show her gratefulness. 

 

and no one breaks records on their own, there's always a team of producers, songwriters, fans, social media etc. behind a person's success. that doesn't take away from the fact that it's the artists' achievement, and this "solo" nonsense, while it started as a laugh, has crossed into the most insufferable, misogynistic way to undermine and undercredit women's successful moments. going on and on about how it's "Bruno's song" when she wrote, sang and is credited as the lead performer (these are facts, not vibes or opinions) is grossly misogynistic. your tone would be whole lot different if it was Ariana featured on the song.

[Shelter]

She is waiting to see what Beyoncé's Jan 14th announcement is. She wouldn't want Beyonce stealing her thunder 

 

[Giorgoc]

13 minutes ago, Riverbank said:

It might be me but when an artist gets to celebrate their success, the natural thing to do would be taking the opportunity to share the story behind the creation of the song instead of blabbing about Remy Ma records like "first female to score #1 hits in 3 decades"  It's tacky af and highlights how uninspired and insipid the whole thing really feels. And it's even more laughable when you remember she couldn't even achieve that record on her own.

 

Good thing that she felt differently about Disease, but she seemingly retracted those feelings really quick when she tried to revoke its lead single status in favor of Bruno's song

First off, it's not Bruno's song. It's their song. Bruno would be an idiot to just hand her this song on her channel and label. She contributed to the song. Second of all, Disease is obviously still the LG7 lead. Anything else you might've read is stan jokes.

[crymelanie]

6 minutes ago, RideOrDie said:

y'all are insufferable, they shared the story of the creation of the song many, many times before. she's obviously proud of her record breaking achievement and wants to thank people and show her gratefulness. 

 

and no one breaks records on their own, there's always a team of producers, songwriters, fans, social media etc. behind a person's success. that doesn't take away from the fact that it's the artists' achievement, and this "solo" nonsense, while it started as a laugh, has crossed into the most insufferable, misogynistic way to undermine and undercredit women's successful moments. going on and on about how it's "Bruno's song" when she wrote, sang and is credited as the lead performer (these are facts, not vibes or opinions) is grossly misogynistic. your tone would be whole lot different if it was Ariana featured on the song.

go off atrl khia RideOrDie

 

[crymelanie]

1 minute ago, Giorgoc said:

First off, it's not Bruno's song. It's their song. Bruno would be an idiot to just hand her this song on her channel and label. She contributed to the song. Second of all, Disease is obviously still the LG7 lead. Anything else you might've read is stan jokes.

it's Bruno's song and she made it the lead

deal with it ok?

[RideOrDie]

1 minute ago, crymelanie said:

go off atrl khia RideOrDie

 

watch your mouth flopmelanie

 

[crymelanie]

Just now, RideOrDie said:

watch your mouth flopmelanie

 

i wish you an ounce of luck bc i'll never shut up haha

[JayG]

All the theories in the world will not change the fact that Disease is a 20/10 song, artisically and metaphorically her best lead single and best music video, and most personal at that. It eclipses most of her own discography as well as what everyone else is currently releasing. This "flop" song will be looked back on in mere months and everyone will be writing their "it was ahead of its time and "its one of her best singles/songs" dissertations. Who gives a **** lmao. The song is a return to form and even better than what I expected. Not worried about the album, and neither is she lmfao. Girlie is rich, married, healthy, just had a number one single with Bruno and will drop an album on par with BTW and TFM. We won. She won.

 

The only gripe I have is she ****** up the promo and rollout. Where is the merch? Like... WHAT is Interscope doing?

Edited Tuesday at 09:07 PM by JayG

[Riverbank]

17 minutes ago, RideOrDie said:

y'all are insufferable, they shared the story of the creation of the song many, many times before. she's obviously proud of her record breaking achievement and wants to thank people and show her gratefulness. 

 

and no one breaks records on their own, there's always a team of producers, songwriters, fans, social media etc. behind a person's success. that doesn't take away from the fact that it's the artists' achievement, and this "solo" nonsense, while it started as a laugh, has crossed into the most insufferable, misogynistic way to undermine and undercredit women's successful moments. going on and on about how it's "Bruno's song" when she wrote, sang and is credited as the lead performer (these are facts, not vibes or opinions) is grossly misogynistic. your tone would be whole lot different if it was Ariana featured on the song.

Well from what we know, the song was originally Bruno's idea and he was the one to invite Gaga for a collab. You can cling on to meaningless formalities such as her name appearing first on the single cover but the actual backstory is already out there. Let's stop the delusion.

 

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One night, after a long day, Mars invited Gaga to his studio to listen to music he had been working on and presented the track to her. At this point, she was "blown away" when she heard what he was working on.^[4] The duo finished writing and recording the song on the same night. 

And  @ you making this about misogyny. If you really wanna go there: it's no coincidence that the top 2 most streamed songs on her last album are respectively Ariana Grande and BLACKPINK collabs (all females btw). Gaga hasn't been able to score a #1 hit on her own since 2011. Sorry for stating cold hard facts

[SweetOreosOfHeaven]

4 minutes ago, Riverbank said:

Well from what we know, the song was originally Bruno's idea and he was the one to invite Gaga for a collab. You can cling on to meaningless formalities such as her name appearing first on the single cover but the actual backstory is already out there. Let's stop the delusion.

 

And  @ you making this about misogyny. If you really wanna go there: it's no coincidence that the top 2 most streamed songs on her last album are respectively Ariana Grande and BLACKPINK collabs (all females btw). Gaga hasn't been able to score a #1 hit on her own since 2011. Sorry for stating cold hard facts

cry harder

[RideOrDie]

6 minutes ago, Riverbank said:

Well from what we know, the song was originally Bruno's idea and he was the one to invite Gaga for a collab. You can cling on to meaningless formalities such as her name appearing first on the single cover but the actual backstory is already out there. Let's stop the delusion.

 

And  @ you making this about misogyny. If you really wanna go there: it's no coincidence that the top 2 most streamed songs on her last album are respectively Ariana Grande and BLACKPINK collabs (all females btw). Gaga hasn't been able to score a #1 hit on her own since 2011. Sorry for stating cold hard facts

i don't know what's hard to understand that they are both lead singers, no one's saying Gaga created the song and invited Bruno. it is her song as much as his. but she is the one who created Rain On Me, Shallow and Sour Candy. and it is being misogynistic to Gaga when you say she has no contributions to those songs successes when she is the creator behind them. I hope that helps. 

 

ARUTW is over a billion streams btw, higher and more longevity than some #1s. and it wasn't even a single. so when Gaga does (and we all know she will) end up getting a solo #1, i'm sure OGHs will find something else to cry about.

 

[PrettyHurts]

Obviously some tweaks were made, starting with DWAS joining the tracklist 

[longjohn9898]

5 minutes ago, Riverbank said:

Well from what we know, the song was originally Bruno's idea and he was the one to invite Gaga for a collab. You can cling on to meaningless formalities such as her name appearing first on the single cover but the actual backstory is already out there. Let's stop the delusion.

 

And  @ you making this about misogyny. If you really wanna go there: it's no coincidence that the top 2 most streamed songs on her last album are respectively Ariana Grande and BLACKPINK collabs (all females btw). Gaga hasn't been able to score a #1 hit on her own since 2011. Sorry for stating cold hard facts

Just because Bruno invited Gaga to collaborate doesn't make the collaboration itself not a true melding of two artists and their talents including vocals and songwriting abilities. 
 

Of course the two most streamed songs on Chromatica are Rain On Me, a hit #1 single, and Sour Candy, and collaboration with Blackpink, one of the biggest groups out there today. Where is the drag? You trying to diminish Gaga's accomplishments simply because her collaborations just happen to be extremely successful and amazing songs isn't the drag you think it is 

[MP3]

She saw that DWAS went #1 and Disease did #27 so she scrapped the already finished dark pop album and went back to the studio with full soft rock ballads and it will be out late 2025

[MatiRod]

I really don't understand the dramatics about DWAS being included. She always had a ballad on her dance-pop albums, Chromatica was the first time she didn't. I also think Disease and DWAS wouldn't sound totally out of place, they are both basically rock songs one with electronic touches and the other more 70s, crisp production, similar lyrics all things considered, they could fit together just like "Aura" and "Dope" made sense on the same album.

[ChooseyLover]

10 minutes ago, MatiRod said:

I really don't understand the dramatics about DWAS being included. She always had a ballad on her dance-pop albums, Chromatica was the first time she didn't. I also think Disease and DWAS wouldn't sound totally out of place, they are both basically rock songs one with electronic touches and the other more 70s, crisp production, similar lyrics all things considered, they could fit together just like "Aura" and "Dope" made sense on the same album.

I think it's the fact that DWAS is the big single of the album, the missing piece; as opposed to a deep cut or a single with a moderate performance that only diehard fans know and appreciate. It's not really the same thing. And probably changes are being made rn as we speak to make the album a better companion piece to such a monster hit; since it seems unlikely it will come out next month. 

[Rotunda]

1 hour ago, JackOfHearts said:

I bet the initial plan was to kickstart 2025 with a new single to go with the album announcement. She and her team probably did not anticipate DWAS to have such a slow burn, so I bet they've had to delay the next single to avoid it being cannibalized, and now that DWAS is on her album it's pretty much… well, they have 2 singles out already, so we might not get a third til the album drops.

This makes sense tbh. I feel like they realize having DWAS, Harlequin, Joker 2, and Disease going all at once was a mistake.

[BlossomSoul]

 when i posted this i was attacked but now? 

Edited Tuesday at 09:52 PM by BlossomSoul