base talk Hikaru Utada is one of biggest genius in pop scene

[edutada]

5 hours ago, Graves said:

Everyone glazing Bad MODE, as they should ofc, but she's been making bangers since forever. Deep River, one of the greatest J-pop albums of all time, the collapse that you are...

 

 

The lead single was called traveling, and she really took us around the world on this one. Barely 19 years old and serving such a stellar collection: hugely varied pop and the most brilliant visuals to match the music.

 

 

 

Her mind! The only thing she can't really do is the elaborate sets on tour that Ayu does. But nobody's perfect!

The way traveling is about sex and they made a little joke with ENDLESS LIBIDO in the japanese pronunciation for ENDORESU RIPĪTO… QUEEN

 

[suburbannature]

3 minutes ago, edutada said:

Is just the truth sis 

I'm not even a JPop fan, but Namie is the one with the Madonna/Janet of JPop and Queen of JPop reputations for a reason. Utada fans always seem to be quite delusional about the subpar quality of their work prior to the last album. They've grown immensely as of late, but those original albums were quite mediocre. 

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4 hours ago, Cruel Summer said:

Not the immediate Science Fiction slander. I thought Science Fiction was excellent - it's fine if some listeners didn't, but I certainly don't know if terrible is fair. The new mixes had depth the originals didn't, particularly Goodbye Happiness, and while I can understand not enjoying her vocals on Hikari since they're quite different and seemingly a little outside her current healthy range, the new take on the production was fascinating and she did great with the other two re-recordings. On top of that, all three new songs were excellent. Gold especially shows that she should keep working with AG Cook for a full album. Their minds together make pure magic.

 

I won't comment on other women in the Japanese music industry since this thread isn't really about that at its heart - they all work hard and bring people together. What I will say is that Utada's music has incredible depth that I've rarely found in any other act from anywhere around the world. She a stunning sense of melody, musicality - these things coming from how deeply involved she is in the creative process, from composition to production to lyrics to instrumentation and everything in between. She puts in the work, and for those of us who connect with it, there's really no other experience like the music she creates.

 

I really, really hope she has a full studio album with AG on the way this year or early next. That would be among my most anticipated albums ever made - two fascinating minds creating something unique and singular.

Gold is a master piece i really love it

[Suilen]

Here for Nishino catching strays

 

[edutada]

Can we talk about how much they're serving FASHION ICON since Hatsukoi era?

I mean, they're looking extremaly good and beautiful is they peak of beauty since 2004

Edited Tuesday at 11:48 AM by edutada

[edutada]

3 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

I'm not even a JPop fan, but Namie is the one with the Madonna/Janet of JPop and Queen of JPop reputations for a reason. Utada fans always seem to be quite delusional about the subpar quality of their work prior to the last album. They've grown immensely as of late, but those original albums were quite mediocre. 

First of all: namie can't even write or produce her song, she's most like a IDOL not an artist 

Her albums are a mess with a lot of fillers she is literally a COMPILATION ALBUM ARTIST 

[JoeAg]

2 hours ago, Suilen said:

Deep River or Bad Mode would be a good start. If the language is a barrier, then maybe Exodus, though some find it challenging. This Is The One where that line is from may be campy but it's not the best representation of her artistry.

 

1 hour ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

They have several albums considered some of the best J-Pop music ever made. Not even exaggerating. They blend pop, R&B and rock perfectly in thier earlier work! Deep River is considered thier best by fans and critics. First 2 songs will literally make you a fan. 

Then follow up with ultra blue that has thier biggest Smash hit Sanctuary. You most likely have heard of it if your a millennial cuz of Kindgom hearts and Anime music video from the 2000's 

These are probably the most mainstream and accessible music for them. And then of course Utada's debut song and album that is actually still the biggest album of theirs, and one of the best selling in Japanese music history. Bad Mode is great if you want modern production. And I recommend it cuz it's pretty easy listening. Either way Utada is famous for producing or being heavily involved in all the songs. So they have a singer-songwriter sensibility and yet is still a Main Pop Girl. Thier English album is camp lyrically, but they still served bops. Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence is a must listen! 

just gave Deep River a first listen at work while the lobby was super quiet and the snow's been falling outside on these downtown Denver streets, and just watching the snow listening to this… WOW y'all  they truly are a pop genius! I particularly appreciated the baroque pop diva-ness of Tokyo Nights and the rock left turn of Usomitai Na I Love You! and obviously the first two songs on the album sound like two of the best pop songs of all time of course 

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52 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said:

How so? Namie consistenly sold more than NishiNO. 
 

Except for _tragic, which was an experimental record with no promo or pre-released singles which turned to be a dud

 

And where is Nishino now? No new studio album since 2017. She was already showing signs of decline even before Namie retired.

Consistently?

Did you forgot about To Love selling more than any namie Studio Album since GENIUS 2000?

For the digital we don't even need to talk about it 

[Graves]

11 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

I'm not even a JPop fan. 

…and that's all we needed to hear.

[ChooseyLover]

5 minutes ago, JoeAg said:

 

just gave Deep River a first listen at work while the lobby was super quiet and the snow's been falling outside on these downtown Denver streets, and just watching the snow listening to this… WOW y'all  they truly are a pop genius! I particularly appreciated the baroque pop diva-ness of Tokyo Nights and the rock left turn of Usomitai Na I Love You! and obviously the first two songs on the album sound like two of the best pop songs of all time of course 

You gotta listen to Exodus. For real.

 

It's their first English album and they released it under the name "Utada" instead. They let loose and started singing about different topics like sex and interracial relationships and prostitution and inner demons, fear of getting your partner to get to really know you, infidelity... and sonically it's really risky.

 

The album that had Elton John STANNING.

Edited Tuesday at 12:02 PM by ChooseyLover

[edutada]

Not namie fans coming for Utada when their fave was doing Utada covers back in the flop days during her tours

 

[Gorjesspazze9]

7 minutes ago, JoeAg said:

 

just gave Deep River a first listen at work while the lobby was super quiet and the snow's been falling outside on these downtown Denver streets, and just watching the snow listening to this… WOW y'all  they truly are a pop genius! I particularly appreciated the baroque pop diva-ness of Tokyo Nights and the rock left turn of Usomitai Na I Love You! and obviously the first two songs on the album sound like two of the best pop songs of all time of course 

Exactly! I remember first time hearing this as a teenager just wait till you get to the Heart Station Album

[suburbannature]

7 minutes ago, Graves said:

…and that's all we needed to hear.

And yet Namie transcended that because of the quality of her work and due to the journalistic consensus I've read regarding her status as the Janet/Madonna of Japan.

 

Utada serves Adele. Highly successful and consistent, but rarely explorative (until recently) or innovative. 

[edutada]

2 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

And yet Namie transcended that because of the quality of her work and due to the journalistic consensus I've read regarding her status as the Janet/Madonna of Japan.

 

Utada serves Adele. Highly successful and consistent, but rarely explorative (until recently) or innovative. 

???

Utada is probably the most versatile and experimental j-pop diva while more than a half of namie's discography smells like cheap r&b

[suburbannature]

Just now, edutada said:

???

Utada is probably the most versatile and experimental j-pop diva while more than a half of namie's discography smells like cheap r&b

This is why Utada fans have the reputation they do for being insanely delusional. 

[edutada]

Imagine talking that Utada is not innovative when Namie's producer said Utada ended his career with her debut album and she was just 15 

[edutada]

4 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

This is why Utada fans have the reputation they do for being insanely delusional. 

Show me your sources sis 

 

I really want to see where did you read people saying that Utada isn't versatile 

 

[Graves]

3 minutes ago, suburbannature said:

This is why Utada fans have the reputation they do for being insanely delusional. 

And you have the reputation of getting Namie WHACKED in every Utada thread, because you always come into throw a jab.  

 

Just own that you're a hater, mama.

[Fevesy]

Just commenting to praise one of the best songs of all time

 

[Space Cowboy]

27 minutes ago, edutada said:

Consistently?

Did you forgot about To Love selling more than any namie Studio Album since GENIUS 2000?

For the digital we don't even need to talk about it 

And Mai Kuraki's Delicious Way has outsold any of Ayumi Hamasaki's studio albums. Yet Ayu has always been ahead in terms of popularity and cultural impact.

 

Namie maintained far more consistent sales during the 2010–2017 period, averaging 400,000–600,000 sales per album (except _genic). In contrast, NishiNO never surpassed 400,000 sales again after To Love. 
 

And all of this is without factoring in Namie Amuro's Best Fiction era, which occurred just before Nishino's debut. That era alone is nearly half as big as Nishino's entire career.

 

When we consider the public respect Namie commanded and the fact that, as a veteran, she was consistently outselling newcomers and trendy new artists, her achievements are legendary.

[edutada]

37 minutes ago, Fevesy said:

Just commenting to praise one of the best songs of all time

 

One of their best ballads 

[edutada]

30 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said:

And Mai Kuraki's Delicious Way has outsold any of Ayumi Hamasaki's studio albums. Yet Ayu has always been ahead in terms of popularity and cultural impact.

 

Namie maintained far more consistent sales during the 2010–2017 period, averaging 400,000–600,000 sales per album (except _genic). In contrast, NishiNO never surpassed 400,000 sales again after To Love. 
 

And all of this is without factoring in Namie Amuro's Best Fiction era, which occurred just before Nishino's debut. That era alone is nearly half as big as Nishino's entire career.

 

When we consider the public respect Namie commanded and the fact that, as a veteran, she was consistently outselling newcomers and trendy new artists, her achievements are legendary.

Namie is a COMPILATION ALBUM artist nobody gives a **** for her studio albums you need to deal with this 

Kana was bigger digitally during her time while namie was selling 100k more in physical per album than Nishino or something like this 

 

Again: if Namie wasn't retired she would be selling less than Sheena Ringo

[Space Cowboy]

9 minutes ago, edutada said:

Namie is a COMPILATION ALBUM artist nobody gives a **** for her studio albums you need to deal with this 

Kana was bigger digitally during her time while namie was selling 100k more in physical per album than Nishino or something like this 

 

Again: if Namie wasn't retired she would be selling less than Sheena Ringo

I'm not sure why I'm even discussing this, considering Nishino's final and career-ending studio album performed like this:

 

Mon	Tue	Wed	Thu	Fri	Sat	Sun	Week Rank	Sales
-	2	2	2	2	2	2	2	79,834
4	9	7	3	4	2	3	6	18,468
3	14	10	6	6	8	4	7	9,320
5	33	21	11	13	11	12	16	6,148

 

Guess who blocked her 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 01:22 PM by Space Cowboy

[Evans]

Let's bring peace to this thread with this classiqué: 

 

When I'm alone at night, I sit and fantasize
And in my fantasies I love you long time
During my 9 to 5, I'm thinking 6 and 9s
I've gotta make you mine

Can you feel my
Dirty desire? (My)
Dirty desire? (My)
Dirty desire? (My)

 

[edutada]

2 hours ago, Space Cowboy said:

I'm not sure why I'm even discussing this, considering Nishino's final and career-ending studio album performed like this:

 

Mon	Tue	Wed	Thu	Fri	Sat	Sun	Week Rank	Sales
-	2	2	2	2	2	2	2	79,834
4	9	7	3	4	2	3	6	18,468
3	14	10	6	6	8	4	7	9,320
5	33	21	11	13	11	12	16	6,148

 

Guess who blocked her 

 

 

Studio album, namie wishes since her career ended with a best album