base talk Bad Bunny - what went wrong?

[305]

5 minutes ago, GentleEarthquake said:

I'm Latino and I think el no tiene ni una pizca de talento

Pues estas mal informado  

[prézli]

2 hours ago, Rush said:

Timothy next.

[JBJT2786]

Ima wait til Monday when the Spotify numbers come in to give my opinion ( don't try to delete the thread if the album  smashes OP btw)....

[VerdantHue]

He sort of sticks to one flow and it becomes uninteresting after 3 albums of the same thing, at least to me.

[HarleyWin]

3 hours ago, unclefloprry said:

Bad Bunny can fill stadiums on Drake's region while Drake can't even fill a festival in Latinamerica.

 

I dislike Drake with a passion and I can even admit this take is just delusional and wrong

 

Not a single Latin reggaeton artist can be compared to him in terms of numbers and longevity. All of them seek his success and lifestyle. He did what Benito did with UVST for 15 years straight... Benito is about to head back into the khia asylum after year 4.

[Bookmark99]

but Forbes magazine told us he's the new MJ!

 

lol i was waiting for atrl to make a thread about him flopping. the simple truth is that he was a fad which I said from the beginning and got dragged for it

[HarleyWin]

1 hour ago, Katamari said:

Yeah singing is in reggaeton is out! Thanks peso! 
 

bad bunny still run things tho so thread will age badly at some point

A year from now y'all are gonna start the same thread about Peso Pluma  

[JBJT2786]

1 hour ago, HarleyWin said:

I dislike Drake with a passion and I can even admit this take is just delusional and wrong

 

Not a single Latin reggaeton artist can be compared to him in terms of numbers and longevity. All of them seek his success and lifestyle. He did what Benito did with UVST for 15 years straight... Benito is about to head back into the khia asylum after year 4.

This is why I can't take yall seriously. BB has been in the business over 12 years. His first major hit was in 2017. So he's at least has been making bangers for almost 8 years. Yall act like he just blew up 2 years ago when its arguably his peak.

 

Yall cannot like an artist but to act like they haven't been around for a min is delusional.

[Holiest Dreams]

His rise and fall (a word I'm using loosely, because he's still big) reminds me a lot of Drake's. Obviously Drake had a much longer peak and bigger career in general, it's just the trends they have seen in commercial success that feel a bit similar. From being a successful streaming act but a bit niche (Drake to US rap, Bunny to Latam rap), to absolutely dominating streaming harder than anyone else at one point, to still being big but none of the new music is sticking and their musical reception going downhill. Drake's top spot on streaming was taken by Bad Bunny and his was taken by Taylor. 
 

This is irrelevant and has no correlation, unless you want to dive deep into the commercial trends of streaming era acts. But just thought it was interesting.

Edited Friday at 11:13 PM by Holiest Dreams

[MonsterNavy]

the last album was just okay and this new one is shaping up to be just the same

 

YHLQDMLG, X 100pre & Un Verano Sin Ti were just really great albums

 

[BrokenMachine]

He's a fad that lasted too long. He's a one-trick-pony, his talents are mediocre at best, and no one is here anymore for what he has to offer. Being the McDonalds of latin music can only get you so far 

[BrokenMachine]

3 hours ago, 305 said:

All the non Latinos in this thread thinking they have any say

But I thought he wasn't local to Latin countries anymore? What happened ?

 

Soy latino y concuerdo con que no tiene una pizca de talento 

[Gerardo]

5 hours ago, Devin said:

what went wrong is yall hyped this man like hes on 2010s drake/rihanna level. when in reality, hes an above average latin rapper that queerbaits and has a corny personality. 

 

Rihanna has no talent bffr and I say this as a fan, Benito does almost all the work in his records and all of them are better than her first 8 collections of songs she calls ¨albums¨ 

and what corny personality? hes very private and barely does interviews

Edited Friday at 11:44 PM by Gerardo

[Gerardo]

2 hours ago, Katamari said:

bad bunny still run things tho so thread will age badly at some point

quite literally this !

 

dragging his humbers rn is like dragging Taylor because evermore/fearless TV didnt do that good, he will be #1 on the Top Global Artists on Spotify on the Monday update lol

[JBJT2786]

22 minutes ago, Gerardo said:

quite literally this !

 

dragging his humbers rn is like dragging Taylor because evermore/fearless TV didnt do that good, he will be #1 on the Top Global Artists on Spotify on the Monday update lol

You would think by now ATRL will learn NOT to these threads before the release of a major artists album but I realize a bunch of them have a humilation kink so....

[HarleyWin]

38 minutes ago, JBJT2786 said:

This is why I can't take yall seriously. BB has been in the business over 12 years. He first major hit was in 2017. So he's at least has been making bangers for almost 8 years. Yall act like he just blew up 2 years ago when its arguably his peak.

 

Yall cannot like an artist but to act like they haven't been around for a min is delusional.

You have missed the point entirely it seems.. Drake was selling more than his other rapper peers and did almost 500K album units with his FIRST album in 2010. From the moment he came on the scene he was the big dog. The argument was about consistency, which you just admitted Benito never had since he "just peaked 2 years ago" and he is already flopping after this supposed 12 year grind. It was a slow rise and fast fall, unlike Drake who has been in the top 5 of the best-selling artists (of ALL genres) for 15 years straight. Even his last 2 duds did double Benito's numbers. 

 

To be as clear as possible this time, Benito never reached the heights of fame that Drake had for his fans to be getting this comfortable. The level where you could "flop" by your own standards and still sell more than 90% of artists in a calendar year (the other 10% of artists is literally just Taylor Swift in Drake's case). BB fans were just getting way too brave by comparing the two and that is all..

[Devin]

48 minutes ago, Gerardo said:

Rihanna has no talent bffr and I say this as a fan, Benito does almost all the work in his records and all of them are better than her first 8 collections of songs she calls ¨albums¨ 

and what corny personality? hes very private and barely does interviews

not u coming for fave like that oh ur punished. 

[Gerardo]

18 minutes ago, HarleyWin said:

You have missed the point entirely it seems.. Drake was selling more than his other rapper peers and did almost 500K album units with his FIRST album in 2010. From the moment he came on the scene he was the big dog. The argument was about consistency, which you just admitted Benito never had since he "just peaked 2 years ago" and he is already flopping after this supposed 12 year grind. It was a slow rise and fast fall, unlike Drake who has been in the top 5 of the best-selling artists (of ALL genres) for 15 years straight. Even his last 2 duds did double Benito's numbers. 

 

To be as clear as possible this time, Benito never reached the heights of fame that Drake had for his fans to be getting this comfortable. The level where you could "flop" by your own standards and still sell more than 90% of artists in a calendar year (the other 10% of artists is literally just Taylor Swift in Drake's case). BB fans were just getting way too brave by comparing the two and that is all..

First point, Benito is STILL selling more than all of his peers, he debuts higher and is currently outsreaming any latin artist, in fact hes even outstreaming Drake and The Weeknd daily

Second thing, his album numbers have been very consisting since 2018 since his debut album, every album has outdebuted the previous one, and NSLQVAPM debuted with the same number as UVST on Spotify, it simply was less succesful because its a trap album with a less commercial and barely did anything for the record

 

Also, ¨his last two duds did double Benitos numbers¨, you must not be good at math:

Spotify:

-NSLQVAPM: 4.84B (October 2023, no deluxe)

-FATD: 3.44B (October 2023, with deluxe)

-Honestly, Nevermind: 2.34B (June 2022)

 

I dont see the¨double Benitos numbers¨ that youre talking about

 

Lastly, UVST is bigger in streaming than any album by Drake, it quite literally is the most streamed album of all time 

 

[Brooklyn Baby]

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[unclefloprry]

4 hours ago, HarleyWin said:

I dislike Drake with a passion and I can even admit this take is just delusional and wrong

 

Not a single Latin reggaeton artist can be compared to him in terms of numbers and longevity. All of them seek his success and lifestyle. He did what Benito did with UVST for 15 years straight... Benito is about to head back into the khia asylum after year 4.

Drake is a non factor in the world since 2018 

Edited Saturday at 03:23 AM by unclefloprry

[305]

3 hours ago, Gerardo said:

First point, Benito is STILL selling more than all of his peers, he debuts higher and is currently outsreaming any latin artist, in fact hes even outstreaming Drake and The Weeknd daily

Second thing, his album numbers have been very consisting since 2018 since his debut album, every album has outdebuted the previous one, and NSLQVAPM debuted with the same number as UVST on Spotify, it simply was less succesful because its a trap album with a less commercial and barely did anything for the record

 

Also, ¨his last two duds did double Benitos numbers¨, you must not be good at math:

Spotify:

-NSLQVAPM: 4.84B (October 2023, no deluxe)

-FATD: 3.44B (October 2023, with deluxe)

-Honestly, Nevermind: 2.34B (June 2022)

 

I dont see the¨double Benitos numbers¨ that youre talking about

 

Lastly, UVST is bigger in streaming than any album by Drake, it quite literally is the most streamed album of all time 

 

Imagine trying to compare the numbers of a debut rap album in the US to a Latin reggaeton album? Acting as if rap was not the biggest genre at the time and as if Latin music performed anywhere close to that? That's the whole point of BBs success being so impressive. And then a few years later besting that same rapper in every metric  estos gringos se deben quedar callados

[Ricanaire]

He should've kept the UVST sound it was so good!!

 

 Didn't when the next album dropped he shitted on UVST and dragged people whom liked it?

[Eternium]

5 hours ago, HarleyWin said:

I dislike Drake with a passion and I can even admit this take is just delusional and wrong

 

Not a single Latin reggaeton artist can be compared to him in terms of numbers and longevity. All of them seek his success and lifestyle. He did what Benito did with UVST for 15 years straight... Benito is about to head back into the khia asylum after year 4.

Drake is probably the most overhyped artist here because you all tie 2010s nostalgia to him. His stats seemed larger than life because he was one of the first acts experiencing the digital era, so everything he did seemed record-breaking because there was no solid history to compare it to. Now that we've gotten a few more years under our belt, he no longer holds most of those records and he's resorting to streaming farms to push his middling hits.

 

Drake couldn't outsell Luke Bryan at their peaks in pure sales but we were supposed to believe he was on MJ's level  

 

OT: Bad Bunny is doing just fine. I'm not rooting for him, but he has a big enough catalogue that he's not in any danger.

[MusicFan98]

9 hours ago, 50thStateofMind said:

maybe I live in a bubble but I cannot name one song by this man

He is only big on latin america, spain and the US, can't believe some users are comparing him to THE SHAKIRA when he was never able to crack other main markets like the UK or Australia.

 

However he has lasted longer than many talentless acts from Latin America so props to him.

 

[BloodLuster]

11 hours ago, Devin said:

what went wrong is yall hyped this man like hes on 2010s drake/rihanna level. when in reality, hes an above average latin rapper that queerbaits and has a corny personality. 

 

now this is how you read some loud stans with weak ass numbers

 

 

OT: good luck to this 2-era-wonder trying to surpass Certified Lover Boy, Scorpion and Views streams and units