NoOneDiesFromLove Posted Friday at 07:57 AM Posted Friday at 07:57 AM Not another Austin Butler please I swear to god
Rv1709 Posted Friday at 08:03 AM Posted Friday at 08:03 AM So the old Ariana can't come to the phone right now? 3
Slap Posted Friday at 08:13 AM Posted Friday at 08:13 AM Her next year after awards season and the Trump presidency settles in: 4
Jay07 Posted Friday at 08:23 AM Posted Friday at 08:23 AM (edited) Why are people obsessed with this girls voice? I mean, lonely gay men hating on women for dumbass reasons is not new but this has to be a new low. I get being upset at her blackfishing but she got over that thankfully so what now? Edited Friday at 09:26 AM by Jay07 2
KillingYourCareer Posted Friday at 08:30 AM Posted Friday at 08:30 AM I wish her happiness but I miss her tu,n days where she was a certified tamarra I wish she'd kept this style through her 30s and beyond like J.Lo! 3
allforyou Posted Friday at 08:32 AM Posted Friday at 08:32 AM The improved enunciation is definitely something that I think most people hope that stays, it definitely makes her songs better 2
Just a Gay on ATRL Posted Friday at 09:23 AM Posted Friday at 09:23 AM She's not saying she's going to sing just like Glinda. If you actually listened to Eternal Sunshine, you will know what she's saying. She clearly had a ton of technical vocal training between Positions and Wicked and you can really tell on Eternal Sunshine. Her range had increased, her enuniciation dramatically improved (which people used to give herr a ton of **** about including on Positions), and overall it seemed like she really cleaned up her technique. 6 1
gloamingtheplain Posted Friday at 09:37 AM Posted Friday at 09:37 AM I mean we know from those few interviews where she gets too caught up in the conversation that it doesn't come naturally for her. So if it does stay beyond the Wicked era, that's kind of weird? Use the voice that comes naturally?
theboyismine Posted Friday at 12:49 PM Posted Friday at 12:49 PM 8 hours ago, RoseGold said: Is she talking about her singing style or her actual voice? she obviously meant her singing style but user spacecowboy has never been a very bright individual so i'm not surprised they didn't catch the actual meaning behind her words 1
Digitalism Posted Friday at 01:43 PM Posted Friday at 01:43 PM (edited) What is different about Ariana is you can clearly hear the change when she sings The others just say it for the awards Edited Friday at 01:44 PM by Digitalism
Marla Singer Posted Friday at 02:39 PM Posted Friday at 02:39 PM She'll now sing "yes" instead of "yuh" when performing her older songs. 3
BrokenMachine Posted Friday at 04:43 PM Posted Friday at 04:43 PM 10 hours ago, Tm4074 said: She was responding to her improved enunciation Her... what ?
BrokenMachine Posted Friday at 04:46 PM Posted Friday at 04:46 PM 8 hours ago, Jay07 said: Why are people obsessed with this girls voice? I mean, lonely gay men hating on women for dumbass reasons is not new but this has to be a new low. I get being upset at her blackfishing but she got over that thankfully so what now? It's just people pointing out her lack of authenticity. She switches her identity every two or three years, and with that, a new speaking voice comes. Some laugh at it, and others get worried
Jay07 Posted Friday at 04:59 PM Posted Friday at 04:59 PM (edited) 13 minutes ago, BrokenMachine said: It's just people pointing out her lack of authenticity. She switches her identity every two or three years, and with that, a new speaking voice comes. Some laugh at it, and others get worried She switches her identity? Do you know her identity? Just because she changes her clothes or tans less for a project doesn't mean she changes as a person. She didn't really change her voice (how do you even change your voice?) other than drop the cheesy accent (which everyone was begging her to do) and have a slightly higher placement because of extensive soprano training. Like I said, completely dumbass assumptions and projections. People are just trying to find things to hate about her and go with "fake" because she used to be kind of cringe and then became cringe in a theater kid way after being steeped in theater for 3 years. Like I'm sorry some people are incapable of change but for someone who is exposed to so many different intense experiences and people, it's actually kind of normal to grow and evolve. Edited Friday at 05:01 PM by Jay07 2
Nashe Posted Friday at 05:46 PM Posted Friday at 05:46 PM 11 hours ago, Breathe On Moi said: she saw that check and said hi my name is Glinda forreal uhm, this was really a dream for her. if it she was all about the money she would've continued judging The Voice or just do her beauty products where she easily makes more
Tm4074 Posted Friday at 06:03 PM Posted Friday at 06:03 PM 15 minutes ago, BrokenMachine said: It's just people pointing out her lack of authenticity. She switches her identity every two or three years, and with that, a new speaking voice comes. Some laugh at it, and others get worried You are misusing and misunderstanding the concept of identity. Vocal tone/inflections/vernacular are not rigid, they are fluid. That is expected to evolve and change due to socialization and how human beings socialize in society depending on the present cultural and social context they exist in. Boiling down a complex concept like identity to superficial means like how someone dresses or speaks is lazy logic and disingenuous. Quite frankly that flawed logic is why there is so much discrimination and prejudice in the world. Maybe stop doing that. Critical thinking and nuance is desperately needed. Regardless this is pop music and entertainment. Ever changing aesthetics, visuals, and presentation is quite literally part of the job. Y'all forgetting Madonna adopting a British accent in the 2000s for no god damn reason? It's not that deep and the think pieces about Ariana having identity issues and being concerned is peak jobless behavior and projection.
Breathe On Moi Posted Friday at 09:29 PM Posted Friday at 09:29 PM 3 hours ago, Nashe said: uhm, this was really a dream for her. if it she was all about the money she would've continued judging The Voice or just do her beauty products where she easily makes more ? the joke was more about her keeping the same voice, you really looked for something to be mad at here, I'm an Ari stan. happy new year Nashe lover sister
BrokenMachine Posted Friday at 09:58 PM Posted Friday at 09:58 PM 4 hours ago, Jay07 said: Do you know her identity? Just because she changes her clothes or tans less for a project doesn't mean she changes as a person. The voice tone, the clothing and the skin color are essential to people's identities, it's not my fault Ariana uses those as just costumes and not as part of her identity, because... well, blackfishing and that...
Communion Posted Saturday at 12:59 AM Posted Saturday at 12:59 AM (edited) 3 hours ago, BrokenMachine said: The voice tone, the clothing and the skin color are essential to people's identities, it's not my fault Ariana uses those as just costumes and not as part of her identity, because... well, blackfishing and that... It's unfortunate. I think there's stuff to criticize her for, but also that these observations ultimately feel inaccurate. As a disclaimer, I don't expect people to be deeply invested in any artist unless they're a stan. Like, I get why someone unfamiliar with Ariana would be swayed by TikToks creating narratives up about her like the bold... but at the end of the day, much of what's actually true about her shows otherwise. People used to literally discredit her music as lacking change lol. Even the tanning wasn't tied to some shift in 'character'. She tanned less for Yours Truly than during the EDM-dance filled My Everything. (We also can't contextualize away the impact of how the public perceives something like her tan, of course, but if people are psycho-analyzing her, the tanning long appeared as insecurity than deception.) Like, yes, things got tone-deaf, but the tan often felt incidental. People forget she was largely defended when some first said her tan was too dark in the "Thank U, Next" video. It wasn't until the video for 7 Rings and the circumstances of doing a trap song did people who once defended her go ".....you know what? I actually don't know if I like all of these components when arranged in this very specific way" ddd. All of these elements long existed in her career - her look, making r&b music, being inspired by black artists - to little controversy, but it was 7 Rings being the kind of braggadocious package it was, and ultimately hugely successful, that felt for many like a jump-the-shark moment of 'this is a little on the nose'. There's clearly an important discussion over the presence of white women - even those who give kudos to black women - and how they take up space in black female musical spaces, but that discourse feels largely removed from the online narratives that aim to pathologize Ariana's personality. 7 albums and 11 years later, the music she's making still largely shows a woman consistently as inspired by 90s r&b as she is musical theatre. The claim that she has no real identity is at odds with her latest album being herald as her best yet and finally putting all of her influences together. Edited Saturday at 01:02 AM by Communion 1 1
J-esper Posted Saturday at 03:44 AM Posted Saturday at 03:44 AM It will just depend on her career trajectory moving forward. She already mentioned doing things on a slower pace and focusing on acting. If she keeps working with her vocal coach, even when music isn't her priority. It probably will stay.
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