BrokenMachine Posted Wednesday at 10:54 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:54 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Colmillo said: Explain in pop terms This is the equivalent of Katy's Part Of Me music video Edit: well, tost1 already explained it Edited Wednesday at 11:01 PM by BrokenMachine 3
Truth Teller Posted Wednesday at 10:58 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:58 PM A strange move for "The War Is Over" chanteuse 5
BrokenMachine Posted Wednesday at 10:58 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:58 PM 44 minutes ago, KingWitch said: I'm sure most of you just think military=bad and start typing Would you think the same if this was done by other country, like Russia or China for example ? 1
Gov Hooka Posted Wednesday at 10:58 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:58 PM 6 minutes ago, Vermillion said: Good luck to the white Midwest and Southern soccer moms convincing their Gen Z sons (not so much daughters) that they're going to be fighting for anything other than maintaining oil conglomerate and weaponry shareholder prices Sis I 1000% agree with you and I hope that more of our younger generations continue to wake up to the lie that is the USA and amerikkkan imperialism
Communion Posted Wednesday at 11:00 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:00 PM (edited) 26 minutes ago, Vermillion said: This is bizarre as others have mentioned in terms of demographics. I mean, Kelly Clarkson for example. What's the ultimate goal? White working class moms in the Midwest whose sons aren't doing well in school? What the hell kind of segment could she pull off to make this work? Jennifer Hudson's clearly the inverse for those of color. I actually don't think demographics are too at-odds. Especially when seeing the kind of segments actually aired on the show over the last 4 years. It's basically just feel-good, soft propaganda. Talk shows also will fill segments with timely coverage and the reality of Veteran's Day, Memorial Day, etc. are things they schedule and book programming around. When searching on Youtube, her show looks to pump out a lot of military content each month of November. The PAAs probably act as subsidies/grants/kickback money that different media programs can get if they feature said segments. And the Pentagon or different branches are probably who is organizing all the logistical connections for the positive coverage, ie: someone in some media / PR wing of some government agency probably emailing the showrunner in October like "we have a few GREAT segment ideas for next month including a sergeant who helped his daughter re-home 100 puppies by running a lemonade stand after returning from service, can we get them on with Kelly for the 11th???". Lots of "humanity win!" / Facebook mom style content. "Look how much people's lives improve after being in the military/navy/marines and get to pursue their dreams after serving!!" Edited Wednesday at 11:04 PM by Communion 7
Gov Hooka Posted Wednesday at 11:00 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:00 PM Just now, BrokenMachine said: Would you think the same if this was done by other country, like Russia or China for example ? No these folks are the same ones to clown North Korea as a bunch of zombies when you can't go to any US major sports function without brazen military propaganda and interludes about vets every 10 min. Or when you see miss "pro-black" Beyonce twirling a bunch of US flags to a massive audience… 1
Qmhp Posted Wednesday at 11:05 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:05 PM That's what a business woman would do Americans are so hypocrites 2
Elusive Chanteuse Posted Wednesday at 11:08 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:08 PM Not seeing a huge issue or surprise here. Democrats support the military correct? What gave u all the idea a white woman from Texas was a leftist that hates the military? 2
Vermillion Posted Wednesday at 11:09 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:09 PM @Communion I was thinking of something much more on the nose. What you brought up's harmless
midnightdawn Posted Wednesday at 11:15 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:15 PM 1 hour ago, stochastic said: Why would the military even decide to partner with her and JHud's respective talk shows in the first place when the demographic the military is trying to court doesn't watch their programs? Seem like a poor ROI Well the moms watch the show, and if the mom thinks it's a good idea she will support her kid joining 1
Communion Posted Wednesday at 11:35 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:35 PM 1 minute ago, Vermillion said: @Communion I was thinking of something much more on the nose. What you brought up's harmless ddd I did just pick a random segment I could find outside of November. Some of it can be a bit more egregious: Though this is what a lot of media relations / soft media propaganda will look like, especially under liberal admins. See: How the military is inserted into Marvel movies. Kelly Clarkson is not gonna be like Fox News and have on some army general to explain why the Chinese need to be bombed, etc. So it'd be less about the media companies and more the question of why this funding even exists, if this is the purpose of it. I'm also just of course assuming the PAA funding starts and stops for this from what I can quickly find. If there's an active element to promoting sign-up's and recruitment via the various media platforms, then obviously there's an even bigger issue. 2
Sawk Posted Wednesday at 11:49 PM Posted Wednesday at 11:49 PM Mr Beast can't get any more evil… I hate his psychopath ass 3
stoopidjenna Posted Thursday at 01:02 AM Posted Thursday at 01:02 AM This is nothing new. Pretty much anytime you see the military represented in the media, there is probably a Production Assistance Agreement in place. Despite how the article frames it, I doubt the DoD went out of their way to form these partnerships as part of some master propaganda push. The more likely scenario is these programs were planning on doing military focused segments already, and entered PAAs to make the process of obtaining the necessary clearances easier in order to produce the content. 5
GraceRandolph Posted Thursday at 01:42 AM Posted Thursday at 01:42 AM I knew something was afoot when she tried way too hard to justify spanking her kids. 1
DAP Posted Thursday at 01:51 AM Posted Thursday at 01:51 AM The rich rats that incite these wars are more than welcome to enlist to fight themselves since they apparently feel so strongly about them. 2
Attaboy Posted Thursday at 01:59 AM Posted Thursday at 01:59 AM Mom "segments" are generally seen by advertisers as the influencer/voice of reason in the household. Even if the mom viewers have younger sons the point is to message subtly and with frequency to drive sentiment more broadly over time Thats literally the point of propaganda 5 1
Gojira Posted Thursday at 02:03 AM Posted Thursday at 02:03 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, stoopidjenna said: This is nothing new. Pretty much anytime you see the military represented in the media, there is probably a Production Assistance Agreement in place. Despite how the article frames it, I doubt the DoD went out of their way to form these partnerships as part of some master propaganda push. The more likely scenario is these programs were planning on doing military focused segments already, and entered PAAs to make the process of obtaining the necessary clearances easier in order to produce the content. That is exactly what it is. The problem is that most people don't even read the article and just make judgements from tabloid headlines. Edited Thursday at 02:05 AM by Gojira Combining posts. 1 1
Cherish Posted Thursday at 02:15 AM Posted Thursday at 02:15 AM 4 hours ago, Saintlor said: Why would anyone be surprised about Kelly? She reeks of Trump and pro gun etc No she doesn't 2
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted Thursday at 04:00 AM ATRL Moderator Posted Thursday at 04:00 AM This is not what most of the thread seems to think it is She just covers stories about veterans and military members on her show from time to time, and apparently gets funding from the Pentagon for in exchange for it (which is pretty much how it goes any time you see things about the military in the media). Her whole show is about feel good stories and ~bringing people together~, this is just one part of it. For the people in here saying "wbk she's a republican" She reeks of Trumpism" etc.....she's only ever spoken badly about Trump, literally performed at Obama's inauguration, gave Jill Biden's first televised interview as the First Lady, and covers stories like this on her show too: She uses her platform for a lot of good. 9 1
Vixen Eyes Posted Thursday at 05:03 AM Posted Thursday at 05:03 AM i genuinely dont have a clue what the text in the OP means, can someone dumb it down for me? or a tl;dr?
IVY Posted Thursday at 08:49 AM Posted Thursday at 08:49 AM That explains why that kelly's show kept running, never understood the praise & the critical acclaim her show kept getting. She is so annoying, doesn't let her guest speak and all she does is cover other artists' songs trying to act like she can do better than the original artist. 4
Radical Pessimism Posted Thursday at 09:00 AM Posted Thursday at 09:00 AM 10 minutes ago, IVY said: That explains why that kelly's show kept running, never understood the praise & the critical acclaim her show kept getting. She is so annoying, doesn't let her guest speak and all she does is cover other artists' songs trying to act like she can do better than the original artist. Oh wow where is this hidden anger coming from?
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