base talk Why did Ariana transition to movies so well while others failed?

[Body Talk]

50 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

Starring in ONE musical with a massive built-in audience -//- smooth transition to movies

 

Why are you acting as if she played in sth that wasn't her bread and butter?

She's the revelation of the film to many though, and has huge award buzz. It's not just that she got the role.

 

She's at the top of every studio's list right now, I guarantee it. Everyone is excited to see what she does next in this space. 

[Tm4074]

33 minutes ago, KasioKas said:

The way this girl keeps getting dismissed by you haters is so funny. She did extremely well acting wise, evidenced by her multiple critics award nominations and wins, and regardless of the "built-in" audience the film had from the musical, if casuals didn't like it, they wouldn't show up in droves like they did, making it the most successful movie-musical adaptation to-date. 

They keep moving the goalposts, it's hilarious. It used to be "Ariana is a horrible actress" and "Wicked is going to flop". Now it's "Glinda was made for her she was always going to do well" and "Wicked has huge fanbase it was always going to succeed". Anything to dismiss her talents and hard work. You would assume they would learn their lesson by now because they get proven wrong every single time lol. 

[bielneira]

Didn't she start her career as an actress instead of as a singer?

[Doctor Dick]

She is more like J.Lo in that she's an actress first that blew up in music while in her generation Lady Gaga has the most impressive jump because she was what your examples tried to become: A-list pop stars crossing over into A-list actors. Gaga's crossover is more impressive because she was only known as a pop star that tried acting while Ariana was already a household name from Nickelodeon before she even released her first song. 

[cuteboyzay]

Cause Ariana actually has an acting background. The girl was literally on BROADWAY LMAOOO!!! 

You can tell it's what she loves to do. The other girlies did it probably just for the experience and they didn't have any acting background at all.

 

Gaga managed to successfully do it too, but it seems as if lately it hasn't been translating that well. But, A Star Is Born kinda did set a new path for artists wanting to successfully transfer to film. Hence one of the reasons why Ariana was able to do it so well too.

[DanyelP23]

"She was an actress first". So was Miley Cyrus.

She transitioned to movies well because she put in the WORK & struck gold nu starring in a movie that ended up well liked & a huge box office smash (and part of that can be attributed to her as well).

[Katamari]

she acts as well as she sings 

Edited Thursday at 07:47 PM by Katamari

[Shelter]

It's a musical? A bit of a reach. Let's see what her next roles are 

[ArtDeco]

She went from being hood ratchet to pinterest girlie real fast, the branding was on point

[kaylejudicator]

2 hours ago, ArtDeco said:

She went from being hood ratchet to pinterest girlie real fast, the branding was on point

Stay mad because Taylor swift could not do this, her cat moment was a timeless embarrassment, and TTPD wish to have a We can't be friends. How Fortnight is doing ? Struggling to reach 800M on Spotify. 

[ArtDeco]

11 hours ago, kaylejudicator said:

Stay mad because Taylor swift could not do this, her cat moment was a timeless embarrassment, and TTPD wish to have a We can't be friends. How Fortnight is doing ? Struggling to reach 800M on Spotify. 

Wow did I trigger you, like. Taylor doesn't need to pretend to be black to succeed in her career, she does it by following the trend of attaining most streamed, which is now the gold spot for success. Also, she had one of the highest grossing tours of our generation.

 

Now while Ariana is stuck trying to decide which race or ethnic persona is going to help her get somewhere purely from clout. Let's see if she will get any roles other than playing a ditzy Sharpay Evans-esque blonde.

Edited Thursday at 02:25 PM by ArtDeco

[Soda Pop Queen]

[Stuart]

11 hours ago, ArtDeco said:

She went from being hood ratchet to pinterest girlie real fast, the branding was on point

 

8 hours ago, ArtDeco said:

Wow did I trigger you, like. Taylor doesn't been to pretend to be black to succeed in her career, she does it by following the trend of attaining most streamed, which is now the gold spot for success. Also, she had one of the highest grossing tours of our generation.

 

Now while Ariana is stuck trying to decide which race or ethnic persona is going to help her get somewhere purely from clout. Let's see if she will get any roles other than playing a ditzy Sharpay Evans-esque blonde.

Now, whose dupe is this ? @ATRL Administration 

[Selenasworld]

Well it's because is a musical/infantile/comedy 

[Eternium]

18 hours ago, Mr.X said:

Oh don't get me wrong, I can understand that she did really well in it. She does have great comedic timing but she isn't a great actress in it. She did well, for sure, but her acting doesn't necessarily scream 'actress' in it, sorry... It is the perfect role for her, but I sincerily doubt she will find much success in any other role, bless her.

Acting doesn't just mean playing a dramatic role. Ariana put on a literally perfect film interpretation of Glinda and did it in a way that had audiences laughing, singing-along and crying. I would love to see you explain how that isn't acting  

18 hours ago, BornUnbroken said:

It's a big budget film adaptation of arguably the most beloved Broadway musical of the 21st century. The film had everything going for it, including the fact that Ariana was a Broadway actress even before Nickelodeon.

Cats was the first Broadway mega musical and grossed almost $4B on Broadway. It held records for how long it lasted on Broadway and in the West End. The stage play was famously released to home video in 1999 and became one of the biggest ever for home releases. It was tied to Jennifer Hudson, Taylor Swift, Dame Judi Dench, Jason Derulo, James Corden, etc. and it still ended up losing Universal $113.2M! An established IP is not enough to guarantee film success if the movie doesn't get positive reception.

19 hours ago, ericcartman said:

With Wicked becoming a bonafide smash despite being a musical, Ariana has successfully transitioned into a successful Hollywood actress, a move coveted by many before her including legends Madonna, Mariah, Bey, plus other former pop girls such as Rihanna, a Britney, Xtina. Even the biggest pop girl Taylor Swift has failed at it. What does Ari have that the others don't? More charisma? Screen presence? More talent? Just the right role at the right time?

I would love to see you explain how Madonna, Bey, Britney and Xtina failed. All of their films were profitable and they had potential to go further if they chose to do so. Bey's actually surprisingly very successful as an actress and Madonna has four memorable films (Evita, Desperately Seeking Susan, Dick Tracy and A League of Their Own).

18 hours ago, ariananext said:

I would love to see her in Hercules or in Audrey Hepburn's biopic.

Both would be amazing. I've been wanting the same thing!

17 hours ago, KasioKas said:

The way this girl keeps getting dismissed by you haters is so funny. She did extremely well acting wise, evidenced by her multiple critics award nominations and wins, and regardless of the "built-in" audience the film had from the musical, if casuals didn't like it, they wouldn't show up in droves like they did, making it the most successful movie-musical adaptation to-date. 

Right? The film ended up overperforming expectations and setting longevity records left-and-right. You don't set a box office record in your 8th week if audiences aren't connecting to the actual film.

15 hours ago, cuteboyzay said:

But, A Star Is Born kinda did set a new path for artists wanting to successfully transfer to film. Hence one of the reasons why Ariana was able to do it so well too.

Girllllll  

15 hours ago, Katamari said:

She's an actress first and singer second 

This would be like saying Britney Spears is an actress first and a singer second just because she had some minor roles before launching her music career  

[Khal]

What a meaningless and premature thread  

[Jagger]

Idk if she did. Wicked isn't good

Edited Thursday at 03:02 PM by Jagger

[Katamari]

1 hour ago, Eternium said:

Acting doesn't just mean playing a dramatic role. Ariana put on a literally perfect film interpretation of Glinda and did it in a way that had audiences laughing, singing-along and crying. I would love to see you explain how that isn't acting  

Cats was the first Broadway mega musical and grossed almost $4B on Broadway. It held records for how long it lasted on Broadway and in the West End. The stage play was famously released to home video in 1999 and became one of the biggest ever for home releases. It was tied to Jennifer Hudson, Taylor Swift, Dame Judi Dench, Jason Derulo, James Corden, etc. and it still ended up losing Universal $113.2M! An established IP is not enough to guarantee film success if the movie doesn't get positive reception.

I would love to see you explain how Madonna, Bey, Britney and Xtina failed. All of their films were profitable and they had potential to go further if they chose to do so. Bey's actually surprisingly very successful as an actress and Madonna has four memorable films (Evita, Desperately Seeking Susan, Dick Tracy and A League of Their Own).

Both would be amazing. I've been wanting the same thing!

Right? The film ended up overperforming expectations and setting longevity records left-and-right. You don't set a box office record in your 8th week if audiences aren't connecting to the actual film.

Girllllll  

This would be like saying Britney Spears is an actress first and a singer second just because she had some minor roles before launching her music career  

Yes one of the biggest shows on nick is def a minor roles

[dumbsparce]

19 hours ago, Body Talk said:

She's the revelation of the film to many though, and has huge award buzz. It's not just that she got the role.

 

She's at the top of every studio's list right now, I guarantee it. Everyone is excited to see what she does next in this space. 

I just think it's way too early to tell that she has transitioned to movies well when her only gig so far has been sth tailor-made for her.

[ariananext]

5 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

I just think it's way too early to tell that she has transitioned to movies well when her only gig so far has been sth tailor-made for her.

How is it tailor-made when this role has existed for ages 

[dumbsparce]

2 minutes ago, ariananext said:

How is it tailor-made when this role has existed for ages 

So? It's sth that fits her perfectly.

[Laura Palmer]

She invented acting 

[UnusualBoy]

She started as an actress tho, also it's her first movie so it's too early to say she's transioned well to movies.

[genio]

I think she's a great actress in Wicked. I would love to see her more in more roles like this, maybe Hercules. 
 

There are many other great singers that found success in both industries like Beyoncé, J-Lo, Gaga, Madonna, Barbra and Cher.  

[Tm4074]

42 minutes ago, Katamari said:

Yes one of the biggest shows on nick is def a minor roles

The narrative before Wicked released was that Ariana would do a bad job because "a Nickelodeon show from 10 years ago isn't legit acting and she has no other experience outside kids TV". Now all of a sudden "she was always an actress!!!". Nah more like everyone who parroted that narrative got proven wrong big time and now they're pivoting. 

 

33 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

So? It's sth that fits her perfectly.

Glinda is nothing like the Ariana Grande pop persona or Ariana as a person hence why the internet/fans were having multiple meltdowns that the Glinda character was influencing too much of her music and pop star persona during the ES rollout. She fits the part because she's a good actress and a hard worker that wanted to do Wicked and the character justice. Let's just give credit where credit is due. She isn't getting acclaim and awards recognition because she's playing herself or a version of herself that people attribute to her. Not to mention the overwhelming discourse when she was cast was about how she was going to be like her pop persona and ruin the character which again is nothing like Glinda.