base talk Is Taylor's vocal mediocrity intentional?

[19SLAYty9]

The idea that she hasn't improved is ridiculous. Debut to fearless? Fearless to speak now? Speak now to red? Red to 1989 was a decline but that might've been the ED. Then 1989 to rep? And rep to folklore? And folklore to now? I mean cmon 

[Mariya Takeuchi]

Taylor Swift's success isn't because she's a genius, a visionary, or the greatest singer-songwriter of our time. Nope. Taylor Swift is the musical equivalent of vanilla ice cream; inoffensive, palatable, and a blank slate for everyone to project their feelings onto. Her mediocrity is her superpower, and y'all are eating it up like it's gourmet.

 

 

Lyrics That Say Nothing While Saying Everything -

 

She's built an empire on surface-level relatability that doesn't challenge or push boundaries. Her storytelling? Cute. Her metaphors? Basic. But it's the illusion of depth that hooks her fans.

 

Vocals That Don't Threaten - 

 

She's no Adele, Beyoncé, or Lady Gaga. Taylor's voice is as safe as a Hallmark movie—pleasant enough but not so powerful or unique that it intimidates. Mediocrity doesn't alienate, and that's her secret.

 

Perpetual Victim Narrative -

 

Taylor has mastered the art of being the perpetual underdog, despite being one of the most privileged, successful people alive. Every beef, every breakup, every perceived slight? She flips it into a moment of "poor me" that her fans rally around. It's marketing genius, but let's not pretend it's revolutionary.

 

Aesthetic Blandness as a Canvas for Projection -

 

Taylor's image morphs just enough to give fans the illusion of evolution without actually alienating her base. Her whole shtick is designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, ensuring she stays relevant while being everything to everyone.

 

 

Pop Feminism at Its Most Performative -

 

Yes, she speaks up about equality.. when it's convenient and trendy. But let's not confuse performative allyship with genuine activism. Her feminism is Diet Coke in a world that needs espresso shots.

 

 

In conclusion, Taylor Swift is wildly successful because she's mediocre enough to make the masses feel comfortable. She's the human equivalent of a pumpkin spice latte: a safe, sugary treat you consume because everyone else is doing it.

[Cruel Summer]

Just now, Mariya Takeuchi said:

Taylor Swift's success isn't because she's a genius, a visionary, or the greatest singer-songwriter of our time. Nope. Taylor Swift is the musical equivalent of vanilla ice cream; inoffensive, palatable, and a blank slate for everyone to project their feelings onto. Her mediocrity is her superpower, and y'all are eating it up like it's gourmet.

 

 

Lyrics That Say Nothing While Saying Everything -

 

She's built an empire on surface-level relatability that doesn't challenge or push boundaries. Her storytelling? Cute. Her metaphors? Basic. But it's the illusion of depth that hooks her fans.

 

Vocals That Don't Threaten - 

 

She's no Adele, Beyoncé, or Lady Gaga. Taylor's voice is as safe as a Hallmark movie—pleasant enough but not so powerful or unique that it intimidates. Mediocrity doesn't alienate, and that's her secret.

 

Perpetual Victim Narrative -

 

Taylor has mastered the art of being the perpetual underdog, despite being one of the most privileged, successful people alive. Every beef, every breakup, every perceived slight? She flips it into a moment of "poor me" that her fans rally around. It's marketing genius, but let's not pretend it's revolutionary.

 

Aesthetic Blandness as a Canvas for Projection -

 

Taylor's image morphs just enough to give fans the illusion of evolution without actually alienating her base. Her whole shtick is designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, ensuring she stays relevant while being everything to everyone.

 

 

Pop Feminism at Its Most Performative -

 

Yes, she speaks up about equality.. when it's convenient and trendy. But let's not confuse performative allyship with genuine activism. Her feminism is Diet Coke in a world that needs espresso shots.

 

 

In conclusion, Taylor Swift is wildly successful because she's mediocre enough to make the masses feel comfortable. She's the human equivalent of a pumpkin spice latte: a safe, sugary treat you consume because everyone else is doing it.

When the argument is so bad that you have to make ChatGPT write it for you 

[Badgalbriel]

1 hour ago, NEX said:

She lipsynced most of it. But if I make a thread about it with concrete evidence you all gonna cry that I'm obsessed. 

Do it

[Pinocchiho]

44 minutes ago, Mariya Takeuchi said:

Taylor Swift's success isn't because she's a genius, a visionary, or the greatest singer-songwriter of our time. Nope. Taylor Swift is the musical equivalent of vanilla ice cream; inoffensive, palatable, and a blank slate for everyone to project their feelings onto. Her mediocrity is her superpower, and y'all are eating it up like it's gourmet.

 

 

Lyrics That Say Nothing While Saying Everything -

 

She's built an empire on surface-level relatability that doesn't challenge or push boundaries. Her storytelling? Cute. Her metaphors? Basic. But it's the illusion of depth that hooks her fans.

 

Vocals That Don't Threaten - 

 

She's no Adele, Beyoncé, or Lady Gaga. Taylor's voice is as safe as a Hallmark movie—pleasant enough but not so powerful or unique that it intimidates. Mediocrity doesn't alienate, and that's her secret.

 

Perpetual Victim Narrative -

 

Taylor has mastered the art of being the perpetual underdog, despite being one of the most privileged, successful people alive. Every beef, every breakup, every perceived slight? She flips it into a moment of "poor me" that her fans rally around. It's marketing genius, but let's not pretend it's revolutionary.

 

Aesthetic Blandness as a Canvas for Projection -

 

Taylor's image morphs just enough to give fans the illusion of evolution without actually alienating her base. Her whole shtick is designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator, ensuring she stays relevant while being everything to everyone.

 

 

Pop Feminism at Its Most Performative -

 

Yes, she speaks up about equality.. when it's convenient and trendy. But let's not confuse performative allyship with genuine activism. Her feminism is Diet Coke in a world that needs espresso shots.

 

 

In conclusion, Taylor Swift is wildly successful because she's mediocre enough to make the masses feel comfortable. She's the human equivalent of a pumpkin spice latte: a safe, sugary treat you consume because everyone else is doing it.

We need a mop, there's been a spill here 

[Mariya Takeuchi]

51 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

When the argument is so bad that you have to make ChatGPT write it for you 

I added the cinnamon tyvm 

[Kingdom]

1 hour ago, The Music Industry said:

Say what you want but Taylor objectively got way better vocally over the years

I mean going from -0 to 0.1 isn't much sis.

[Kingdom]

LMAO....I can't with this question.

 

No its not intentional, she was born as a less than  mediocre singer. God did that intentionally, not taylor. 

[MissedTheTrain]

2 hours ago, Revolution said:

She should be a songwriter, not a singer, if she can't sing well.

She isn't going to be winning any singing competitions, but she sings well enough for her voice to be a vessel for the songs she writes about her life.  Her songs are her art, her perspective, and they're highly personal....I wouldn't want to hear anyone else singing songs like All Too Well, Anti-Hero, my tears ricochet, So Long London etc.  That's her story.

 

 

There have been many renowned artists throughout the decades whose strength was in storytelling/songwriting and they weren't known as great vocalists (Bob Dylan, as one example that comes to mind).  Taylor is just a unique case where she's brought a lot of it into the Pop realm.  And she's massively successful, so she's clearly doing fine.

[Mtjjproducer]

2 hours ago, The Music Industry said:

Say what you want but Taylor objectively got way better vocally over the years

But when your that bad to start is it really THAT impressive. 
 

we don't give jlo props from going from awful vocally to mediocre why should we give Taylor grace

[HarajukuPrincess]

lol I mean there are many better vocalists, but she's not that bad  at least she sings her own songs. 

[queenoftheclouds]

Maybe she wants to Talk after her Shows. Vocal Powerhouses have to be very strict on Tour to keep the voice. Otherwise they would loose the voice after a few Shows. Taylor doesn't have to Care too much because she doesn't over use her voice.

[unino]

1 hour ago, Dante Silva said:

I've never heard her strain her voice. Her voice is definitely better than Addison Rae's, Selena Gomez's, Sabrina Carpenter's, Jennifer Lopez's or Madison Beer's.

 

People once levelled the same accusation against Madonna, particularly in comparison to Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey but it didn't actually matter.

 

exactly, she DID THAT 

[BrokenMachine]

[The Music Industry]

1 minute ago, Mtjjproducer said:

But when your that bad to start is it really THAT impressive. 
 

we don't give jlo props from going from awful vocally to mediocre why should we give Taylor grace

OP said she didn't improve, which is just false. If you don't want to give her grace/don't like her voice, just don't listen to her music I guess? It's not like she needs your plays to be the biggest and most discussed artist on Earth

[MissedTheTrain]

Also, to act like Taylor hasn't improved vocally is insane   You can't work and train to magically become Celine Dion, it doesn't work like that, but Taylor has her style and it works for her.

 

 

 

 

[DevilsRollTheDice]

Is your lack of employment intentional?

[BrokenMachine]

1 hour ago, alexrex said:

Listen carefully, hater

 

 

Is this supposed to prove something? 

[Marla Singer]

No, she really is that bad.

[The Music Industry]

1 hour ago, Mariya Takeuchi said:

Taylor Swift's success isn't because she's a genius, a visionary, or the greatest singer-songwriter of our time. Nope. Taylor Swift is the musical equivalent of vanilla ice cream; inoffensive, palatable, and a blank slate for everyone to project their feelings onto. Her mediocrity is her superpower, and y'all are eating it up like it's gourmet.

If "inoffensive palatable vanilla" was the reason for Taylor's unparalleled success, then you'd expect the likes of Meghan Trainor, Shawn Mendes, Katy Perry, Alessia Cara, Charlie Puth, Anne-Marie to dominate the music scene as well, no?  The idea that people are looking for "basic, inoffensive, palatable" music just does not reflect actual consumption in 2024. Lots of MPGs released albums that are way more "palatable" and easy to consume this year than TTPD, a 31-track album full of slow songs that sound nothing like the top hits you'd see on the Hot 100 right now. 

 

You're quite literally a stan of mainstream pop artists, so for you to act pretentious and above "palatable basic" music is just laughable too. 

[Rep2000]

2 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

If "inoffensive palatable vanilla" was the reason for Taylor's unparalleled success, then you'd expect the likes of Meghan Trainor, Shawn Mendes, Katy Perry, Alessia Cara, Charlie Puth, Anne-Marie to dominate the music scene as well, no?  The idea that people are looking for "basic, inoffensive, palatable" music just does not reflect actual consumption in 2024. Lots of MPGs released albums that are way more "palatable" and easy to consume this year than TTPD, a 31-track album full of slow songs that sound nothing like the top hits you'd see on the Hot 100 right now. 

 

You're quite literally a stan of mainstream pop artists, so for you to act pretentious and above "palatable basic" music is just laughable too. 

Most of the time this is just them projecring their own taste.

Because what revolutionary, edgy music are they consuming? And what are they doing on a pop forum?

They sound exactly like those r/music literal boomers frfr 

[tshwark]

bayonce uses pre-recorded vocals, Ariana's enunciation is awful, in Taylor's case her voice is plain, you can't enjoy notes and depth, no inflections, but she does what she can.

[Mariya Takeuchi]

1 minute ago, tshwark said:

bayonce uses pre-recorded vocals, Ariana's enunciation is awful, in Taylor's case her voice is plain, you can't enjoy notes and depth, no inflections, but she does what she can.

And Rihanna can't stay on key 

[emailmyhearts]

No, I don't think so, hence the huge improve of her vocals over the years. I genuinely think she wanted to get better and did so but at the same time it was never her biggest goal, same as improving her dancing skills. It just wouldn't change anything about her career which was built on being a singer-songwriter first, except take away the right of some stan twitter teenagers and atrl users to make Taylor can't sing/perform posts.

 

That being said I think she'd like to be a Mariah powerhouse vocalist, as in if she found someone to make her wishes magically come true but then again who wouldn't?

[burninredhot]

2 hours ago, NEX said:

She lipsynced most of it. But if I make a thread about it with concrete evidence you all gonna cry that I'm obsessed. 

Imagine trying to threaten people on ATRL of all places  Do it and let's see if it effects anything besides your mental health