news Leaked 2022 Biden memo: Latinos don't ID as "community of color", favor class issues

[Communion]

 

 

 

[Vermillion]

The irony of this being delivered by Chuck Todd of all people is also glaring.

[Onyxmage]

Was this before or after Trump said he wanted to toss them all back across the border and rescind birthright citizenship?  

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[Marianah Adkins]

The 2020 election was already an omen for 2024. Latinos were starting to shift right despite Trump's overt racism and COVID mismanagement.

It was only a matter of time before they flipped to the GOP. It's clear they got tired of the virtue signaling and liberal hysteria after 2016. 

[Dancehall Queen]

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If nothing else I hope this is the end of 'Latinx'.

People really run with this as their one issue.  I haven't heard anyone genuinely use it in like six years. It's just something people use to jerk each other off when complaining about virtue signaling. 

 

OT: People care about their financial situation? 

[Communion]

27 minutes ago, Dancehall Queen said:

People really run with this as their one issue.  I haven't heard anyone genuinely use it in like, 6 years. It's just something people use to jerk each other off when complaining about virtue signaling. 

 

OT: People care about their financial situation? 

Yeah, oddly only a conservative commentator is for some reason sharing the clips of Chuck Todd saying this and thus I think their weird jab at Latinx is silly. 

 

From trying to do some context clue searching, the clips appear taken from Facebook from a post-election panel on 12/13/24 held by the Dole Institute with Todd, Molly Ball, etc.

[Raver]

1 hour ago, Dancehall Queen said:

People really run with this as their one issue.  I haven't heard anyone genuinely use it in like six years. It's just something people use to jerk each other off when complaining about virtue signaling. 

 

The colleges around my work area definitely use that term. 

[LittleStarmen]

Its true though

Latinos can be spanish, italians, blonde white blue eyed... most never crossed the border either....

8 minutes ago, Raver said:

The colleges around my work area definitely use that term. 

It still used in corporate stuff

[BOOMBAYAH]

I feel like the term "POC" is just such an odd label. Many wealthy non-white people don't even associate themselves with non-white individuals who are not wealthy. Additionally, there are numerous "POC" demographics in America—from the Middle East, Africa, South America, and Asia—who are generally well-off.

 

As someone pointed out earlier, categorizing all Latinos under the "POC" umbrella doesn't make much sense. For instance, Anya Taylor-Joy is Latina, yet she could easily pass as Norwegian.

 

In my opinion, the group of "POC" who suffer the most directly due to their skin color are African Americans. While other groups undoubtedly face struggles in a racist America, they are often less targeted and tend to align more with class-based struggles than identity-based ones. I've even seen many Black individuals on Twitter distancing themselves from the "POC" label, saying they don't feel a sense of solidarity from other non-white groups.

[PoisonPill]

4 hours ago, Onyxmage said:

Was this before or after Trump said he wanted to toss them all back across the border and rescind birthright citizenship?  

He never said that  

[JanStan]

The problem with the left is that they are OBSESSED with race and gender in a way that doesn't reflect the real world AT ALL. In reality, a majority of minorities can't relate to the white supremacy, misogyny, transphobia, homophobia, etc etc that is the foundation of the Democratic Party. There is no space for discussion of things that a majority of Americans actually care about. And it's not each subject alone that is so detrimental (i.e. the use of Latinx, the gender issue, etc) but the fact that those things are even discussed on the same level as housing, immigration and the economy as reasons to vote. The left needs to accept that as much as they refuse to accept it, the country isn't as racist and problematic as they WANT and NEED it to be. 

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[sparrowblue]

that's what happens when you don't know the difference between nationality, ethnicity and race. latino is not a race joseph and whoever else is confused.

[Onyxmage]

1 hour ago, PoisonPill said:

He never said that  

He absolutely said that. Are you insane? Where the hell did all these Trump apologists come from?

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[Onyxmage]

1 hour ago, JanStan said:

The problem with the left is that they are OBSESSED with race and gender in a way that doesn't reflect the real world AT ALL. In reality, a majority of minorities can't relate to the white supremacy, misogyny, transphobia, homophobia, etc etc that is the foundation of the Democratic Party. There is no space for discussion of things that a majority of Americans actually care about. And it's not each subject alone that is so detrimental (i.e. the use of Latinx, the gender issue, etc) but the fact that those things are even discussed on the same level as housing, immigration and the economy as reasons to vote. The left needs to accept that as much as they refuse to accept it, the country isn't as racist and problematic as they WANT and NEED it to be. 

Kamala was telling people that they deserved dignity,  respect, the right to housing and a well paying job regardless of race, gender and sexual orientation. Trump was calling anyone that voted Democrat or was a leftist VERMIN and SCUM.

[PoisonPill]

6 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

He absolutely said that. Are you insane? Where the hell did all these Trump apologists come from?

Not an apologist, I just like when we all use the same set of facts. He never said that all Latinos should be deported and have their citizenship revoked.

[JanStan]

14 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

Kamala was telling people that they deserved dignity,  respect, the right to housing and a well paying job regardless of race, gender and sexual orientation. Trump was calling anyone that voted Democrat or was a leftist VERMIN and SCUM.

But that wasn't specific to Trump. We know what the left called Trump voters as well and minorities STILL shifted right. The name calling was a non factor for both sides. But that's my point. The reason pretty much the WHOLE country shifted right (including minorities) is because of the lefts obsession with identity politics and wanting to fight racism, misogyny and white supremacy that a lot of minorities couldn't relate to. Of course those things exist, but those weren't the reasons that people felt were why groceries were so expensive and they couldn't get housing. It's time for the left to move on from that failed game plan. 
 

[Breathe On Moi]

only a little under two weeks until we start getting daily threads about Republicans and Trump and that administration right?…..right?? 

[Capris Groove]

You mean to tell me that, contrary to what we've all been told for the last 10 years, the #1 issue to people of colour is not the colour of their skin? And that other things might take precedent like affording the food on their table and the roofs over their heads?

[Onyxmage]

6 minutes ago, JanStan said:

But that wasn't specific to Trump. We know what the left called Trump voters as well and minorities STILL shifted right. The name calling was a non factor for both sides. But that's my point. The reason pretty much the WHOLE country shifted right (including minorities) is because of the lefts obsession with identity politics and wanting to fight racism, misogyny and white supremacy that a lot of minorities couldn't relate to. Of course those things exist, but those weren't the reasons that people felt were why groceries were so expensive and they couldn't get housing. It's time for the left to move on from that failed game plan. 
 

Since when was fighting racism, misogyny and white supremacy a bad thing? What specific policies did republicans offer Americans that would make them vote for them? At least Kamala talked about tax breaks for small businesses and taking on corporate price gouging and expanding housing. All Trump did was bash immigrants at every rally.   There are MANY reasons why less people voted for Kamala and none of them have to do with Democrats fighting to preserve the rights for minorities.  

[Onyxmage]

34 minutes ago, PoisonPill said:

Not an apologist, I just like when we all use the same set of facts. He never said that all Latinos should be deported and have their citizenship revoked.

Trump aims to end birthright citizenship, says American citizens with family here illegally may be deported

 

[JanStan]

7 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

Since when was fighting racism, misogyny and white supremacy a bad thing? What specific policies did republicans offer Americans that would make them vote for them? At least Kamala talked about tax breaks for small businesses and taking on corporate price gouging and expanding housing. All Trump did was bash immigrants at every rally.   There are MANY reasons why less people voted for Kamala and none of them have to do with Democrats fighting to preserve the rights for minorities.  

Wow. You couldn't be more wrong and are completely ignorant to the reasons why minorities are unhappy with the dem party. ILLEGAL immigration (for one) has been an objective and unmitigated disaster for American minorities and has done nothing to preserve their rights. It has actually done the exact opposite. When the party supports illegal immigration to the point of shutting down schools and parks for space to house illegals, especially those in low income and minority neighborhoods, YOU ARE NOT PRESERVING THE RIGHTS OF MINORITY GROUPS, YOU ARE EXPLOITING THEM. But you wouldn't know that, because you have been led to believe that if you do take issue with it you are racist and xenophobic. Minority groups are starting to realize (hence the shift to the right) that they have been used and that they don't have to accept it any longer. 

[PoisonPill]

26 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

Trump aims to end birthright citizenship, says American citizens with family here illegally may be deported

 

Thank you for confirming that he never said he wants to deport all Latinos. It sounds like you read "illegal" and your mind automatically jumped to "Latino"

[Onyxmage]

25 minutes ago, JanStan said:

Wow. You couldn't be more wrong and are completely ignorant to the reasons why minorities are unhappy with the dem party. ILLEGAL immigration (for one) has been an objective and unmitigated disaster for American minorities and has done nothing to preserve their rights. It has actually done the exact opposite. When the party supports illegal immigration to the point of shutting down schools and parks for space to house illegals, especially those in low income and minority neighborhoods, YOU ARE NOT PRESERVING THE RIGHTS OF MINORITY GROUPS, YOU ARE EXPLOITING THEM. But you wouldn't know that, because you have been led to believe that if you do take issue with it you are racist and xenophobic. Minority groups are starting to realize (hence the shift to the right) that they have been used and that they don't have to accept it any longer. 

Thats ironic considering REPUBLICANS shut down an immigration bill that would have strengthened the border, added more resources to the asylum system and eased the burden of illegal immigration all across the country. Why? because Trump told them to. The fact that you keep blaming Democrats for everything the republicans are doing just shows how easy it is to manipulate people in this country. Oh but we are nearing the FAFO stage in a few months and the minorities that voted for Trump are about to find out just where Republicans and Trumps loyalties lie. I cant wait. 

[JanStan]

17 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

Thats ironic considering REPUBLICANS shut down an immigration bill that would have strengthened the border, added more resources to the asylum system and eased the burden of illegal immigration all across the country. Why? because Trump told them to. The fact that you keep blaming Democrats for everything the republicans are doing just shows how easy it is to manipulate people in this country. Oh but we are nearing the FAFO stage in a few months and the minorities that voted for Trump are about to find out just where Republicans and Trumps loyalties lie. I cant wait. 

Trump did do that. In late 2024 during elections. When Biden actually pretended to care about the communities that HIS immigration policies were destroying. Obviously no one fell for it. 

[Onyxmage]

5 minutes ago, JanStan said:

 When Biden actually pretended to care about the communities that HIS immigration policies were destroying. Obviously no one fell for it. 

That literally makes NO sense. The immigration bill was Bipartisan and Republicans were fully on board before Trump destroyed it. So as you can see congress was actually working to fix the problem until Republicans turned their backs on the American people to satisfy Trump but keep telling me how Democrats are the problem. 

 

 Anyway, its clear you have some bias against Democrats no matter what the facts are so ill just let you live in your delusion just like the Hispanic Trumpers do. The next few years are gonna be full of karma for them and ill be here laughing the entire time.  

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