celeb news BBC: Katy's comeback, Joker 2 biggest flops of 2024

[Joaco95]

but-but dwas 

[ImpressMeMuch]

The way OP left the article link out because they know how wrong they are for how they positioned this 

 

7 minutes ago, Joaco95 said:

but-but dwas 

is not discussed by the article, just explicitly joker 2 and 143

[Femininomenon]

16 hours ago, lauvender said:

Gaga did

Flop Movie

Flop Soundtrack

Flop Jazz Album

Flop Demoted Lead Single 

The fact that the media doesn't even care about her flops anymore is sad, she's just not that interesting, not even for clicks

[Richie]

8 hours ago, Mariano said:

I love how you think somehow the GP who are currently consuming Gaga's smash hit DWAS with Bruno, a song that is bigger than any Katy song since 2014 and any Britney song since at least 2004, are thinking of Gaga and Katy and Britney as equal. Are thinking of Katy or Britney at all...   

 

By your logic the GP thinks of Billie Eilish and Ava Max as the same thing, cuz they are both releasing music. OGH mental gymnastics are just...  

 

Con Britney no te metas culera, reportada 

 

[dumbsparce]

Katy obviously bombed harder but Gaga's floppage is more shocking. She has the updated LG7 lead though which is bigger than Katy's last 20 singles combined.

[Magno]

16 hours ago, Mirkomonster said:

Now lets compare small talk too 😭

Disease alone outcharting every Katy Perry's album and single since 2020 combined 💀

Small talk didn't last so longs on TTHs as disease, Gaga's song spended more than one month inside top 15 TThs, at great positions like #10 ,#1 , #15. Small talk got out way faster

[Bubble Tea]

Who gives a F, 143 was jam packed with bops and the girlies who get it get it and have fun. 

 

Sad the rest of y'all couldn't get on board the fun silly bop express.

[Magno]

14 hours ago, Aston Martin said:

Spotify streams yesterday:

• Die with a Smile: 10,087,625
• Every song in Nicki's discography put together: 10,018,240

If Gaga's flopping, then what does it say that one song in her discography is outstreaming all of your fave's combined?

 

Disease spent 7 weeks on the Billboard Hot 100, you're just making **** up  and it'll probably re-enter after Christmas too. And I'm not sure TTH would've helped Katy that much seeing as Small Talk was given the #1 spot on TTH yet it still couldn't crack the top 80 on the Hot 100 and it's stalled at 125 million streams 5 years later  

 

ot: 143 and J:FaD were both bombs but the article not mentioning Gaga by name in the Joker section kind of proves that it wasn't the career ender that 143 was. It helps that DWAS is one of the biggest songs of the decade too. 

Lot of sense. 143 is really proving to be "career ender" since the tour is selling well .You all put too much drama in everything that hasn't.

Also, you can't say anything about tth's not work for one song using #1 from Small talk since the #1 from disease and many great spots didn't help it in anything since it's still inside top 35 doing 600k. 

 

We are going nowhere about that, both them have #1 songs on TTHs that bombed (Small talk) and it's bombing now (Disease).

So we can't say nothing to eachother in the topic.

 

But my point is Disease is having a bigger investment in playlist than songs like Never really over had, and it's not even in the first feet of never really over performance. So in fact, there is not even a song of Katy to compare to Disease level of investment here , maybe CTTR that also wasn't #1 in TTHs but did better than Disease. Never really over did worlds better with less investment. Daisies did similar or better than Disease in terms of spot positions, will very very very less investment.

I really can't accept defending that poor performance even me as katycat heaving small talking in Curriculum, simply because we have less investment songs bigger than that.

I can't even accept comparing 143's singles to disease, non even one of them had 10% of desease investment.

But even Happy mistake entering today's top hits , that one stopped being stomped by any single of Katy, and non single too like Smile and hih

 

Ok that small talk was 1, but didn't last in the playlist like Dua's songs.

[Magno]

13 hours ago, unison stan said:

disease will outstream whole 1432 album. so good luck making them look like "boat mates"

They aren't boat mates really, I agree, because Gaga has people from big ships to throw her always one string and giving her a monumentum. But remember , the ship isn't hers , and in the moment she gets out (releasing Harlequin , disease or any solo flop), she must unfortunately to you all come back to the boat to accompany her friend.

 

 

And it's not one songs that bought a house in today's top hits "eventually" outstreaming one album without investiment in only one platform that will make her boat turn into a raft

Edited yesterday at 03:12 AM by Magno

[Magno]

Just now, Magno said:

They aren't boat mates really, I agree, because Gaga has people from big ships to throw her always one string and giving her a monumentum. But remember , the ship isn't hers , and in the moment she gets out (releasing Harlequin , disease or any solo flop), she must unfortunately to you all come back to the boat to accomplish her friend.

 

 

And it's not one songs that bought a house in today's top hits "eventually" out streaming one album without investiment in only one platform that will make her boat turn into a 

 

1 hour ago, dumbsparce said:

Katy obviously bombed harder but Gaga's floppage is more shocking. She has the updated LG7 lead though which is bigger than Katy's last 20 singles combined.

At the same time she has Happy Mistake that's minor than any single by Katy including Woman's world , lifetime and IHHM.

That's so weird 

[Magno]

17 hours ago, Mariano said:

Not that person ignoring that Disease is outstreaming entire 143 album + it's brand new 4 tracks deluxe version and talking about Daisies  

You're ignoring that the whole 143 didn't have playlist investment not a Little bit close to disease.

Not even joining all songs .

 

Disease #1 TTHs

143 any song not even in spot 50

[Miss Fortune]

Why is this thread title allowed despite Lady Gaga not being mentioned in the article? 

[BrokenMachine]

I'm gonna stay quiet and watch from the distance 

[BrokenMachine]

9 minutes ago, Miss Fortune said:

Why is this thread title allowed despite Lady Gaga not being mentioned in the article? 

It's ATRL lingo, equating Zootopia with Shakira, The Lion King with Beyoncé, and for this example, The Joker 2 with Gaga 

[Aston Martin]

22 minutes ago, Magno said:

Lot of sense. 143 is really proving to be "career ender" since the tour is selling well .You all put too much drama in everything that hasn't.

Also, you can't say anything about tth's not work for one song using #1 from Small talk since the #1 from disease and many great spots didn't help it in anything since it's still inside top 35 doing 600k. 

 

We are going nowhere about that, both them have #1 songs on TTHs that bombed (Small talk) and it's bombing now (Disease).

So we can't say nothing to eachother in the topic.

 

But my point is Disease is having a bigger investment in playlist than songs like Never really over had, and it's not even in the first feet of never really over performance. So in fact, there is not even a song of Katy to compare to Disease level of investment here , maybe CTTR that also wasn't #1 in TTHs but did better than Disease. Never really over did worlds better with less investment. Daisies did similar or better than Disease in terms of spot positions, will very very very less investment.

I really can't accept defending that poor performance even me as katycat heaving small talking in Curriculum, simply because we have less investment songs bigger than that.

I can't even accept comparing 143's singles to disease, non even one of them had 10% of desease investment.

But even Happy mistake entering today's top hits , that one stopped being stomped by any single of Katy, and non single too like Smile and hih

 

Ok that small talk was 1, but didn't last in the playlist like Dua's songs.

The fact that you have to go all the way back to the last decade to find solo Katy songs that do better than Disease really says it all  It's interesting how you want to compare Disease to Never Really Over (a song that's almost 6 years old) instead of comparing it to Gaga's biggest solo single that's also 6 years old, Always Remember Us This Way. I wonder why that is-

• ARUTW: 1,446,116,620 (+612,569)
• NRO: 709,649,204 (+50,124)

Oh   and Disease can stay on bigger playlists since Gaga has one of the biggest songs of the year (DWAS) that's bringing in a good bit of money to both Spotify itself and Interscope. Maybe if Katy had a DWAS-sized hit some time between now and 2015, Capitol would've spent more on her playlisting. But whenever they've done that, it hasn't really paid off. For example: 

• Katy Perry's duet When I'm Gone had a playlist reach above 100 million for 5-6 months yet peaked at #90 on the H100
• Lady Gaga's solo song Disease had a playlist reach above 100 million for 3 months (less time) yet peaked at #27 on the H100

Capitol and Spotify have given Katy multiple chances with good playlisting, both solo and collabs. The songs just kept not connecting. And the sad thing is that Katy might have done a lot better if she didn't run back to Luke this time around, but that was a completely avoidable (and disrespectful) thing to do. Either way, Disease will end up outstreaming every song on 143 combined and chart longer than every song on 143 combined. 

[Magno]

31 minutes ago, Aston Martin said:

The fact that you have to go all the way back to the last decade to find solo Katy songs that do better than Disease really says it all  It's interesting how you want to compare Disease to Never Really Over (a song that's almost 6 years old) instead of comparing it to Gaga's biggest solo single that's also 6 years old, Always Remember Us This Way. I wonder why that is-

• ARUTW: 1,446,116,620 (+612,569)
• NRO: 709,649,204 (+50,124)

Oh   and Disease can stay on bigger playlists since Gaga has one of the biggest songs of the year (DWAS) that's bringing in a good bit of money to both Spotify itself and Interscope. Maybe if Katy had a DWAS-sized hit some time between now and 2015, Capitol would've spent more on her playlisting. But whenever they've done that, it hasn't really paid off. For example: 

• Katy Perry's duet When I'm Gone had a playlist reach above 100 million for 5-6 months yet peaked at #90 on the H100
• Lady Gaga's solo song Disease had a playlist reach above 100 million for 3 months (less time) yet peaked at #27 on the H100

Capitol and Spotify have given Katy multiple chances with good playlisting, both solo and collabs. The songs just kept not connecting. And the sad thing is that Katy might have done a lot better if she didn't run back to Luke this time around, but that was a completely avoidable (and disrespectful) thing to do. Either way, Disease will end up outstreaming every song on 143 combined and chart longer than every song on 143 combined. 

You trying again repeating always the same "Disease will out streaming 143" to show some "effect"  but you can't bring me a Gaga's recent solo song that didn't hae TTHs that can do it, uhmmm I bring you Happy mistake once more , since you love to repeat things.

Why isn't happy mistake outstreaming 143 too? Wouldn't be because it hasn't a top 40 decent run in TTHs including privilege positions like #10 and #1 , while 143 whole album didn't have?

 

And You're just wanting making laugh, are kidding or are joking  bring me the FUCKIN Alesso here to compare to Gaga's Collab. I think you're smarter enough to see that Alesso's Collab don't have a Ariana Grande's or Bruno Mars weight, can't you see really?

 

In a real world like ours makes a lot of sense When I'm gone dies in #90 while ARIANA'S Collab get #1 and BRUNO'S Collab get #2.

Seriously, I'm not believing here that you used when I'm gone as an argument to show that Capitol had a whole projection about Katy's capacity in a Collab with high playlist range .

 

I know you all can say that you all aren't blame she doesn't get strong names to Collab, but also be fair, and not compare one "Alesso" to Ariana and Bruno.

 

Also you brought always remember us this way to compare with NRO to end better, so I imagine that you consider that Disease will be better than Never really over inside 5 years, ok I get it , but the point is not the difference of time to accumulate , the difference is that NRO is the song that more approximates to disease when it comes to TTH'S performance with the difference disease got #1 and NRO not.

 

To finish my thinking, I really don't know what monsters expect using that narrative that disease will outstreaming 143 like if was something fenomenal.

We can find a lot of singles that had strong tth's investiment outstreaming álbuns that didn't have not even 1 song there and/or had significant less investiment;

 

Taste /PPP/.Expresso (they all lives till today in tth's) outstreaming the non investment C Xoxo

 

Birds of a feather (lives in.tths) outstreaming Radical optism EVEN 3 songs in TTHS 

 

Ghost by bieber (lived more than one year in tth's)  outstreaming autumn variation by Ed Sheeran and Shawn by Shawn Mendes both with no song in tth's.

 

Calm down by Selena outstreaming Dancing with the devil and Holyfuck by Demi.

 

 

So, it's really common one song full of investment in playlists outstreaming an whole album that didn't have investiment.

 

So I really can't understand why you all repeat this like a huge milestone.

 

 

 

[lgaga1fan]

4 hours ago, Magno said:

You're ignoring that the whole 143 didn't have playlist investment not a Little bit close to disease.

Not even joining all songs .

 

Disease #1 TTHs

143 any song not even in spot 50

Troye Sivan is outstreaming Katy in the current year it's time to stop keeping Gaga's mouth in some of y'alls mouthes

Edited 23 hours ago by lgaga1fan

[Sannie]

Quote

Making a sequel to 2019's Joker, which grossed more than $1bn (£790m), was something Hollywood found simply irresistible.

Unfortunately, the resulting film, Joker: Folie à Deux, was something audiences found entirely resistible.

Making the film a musical was a bold swing, but the tonal handbreak turn alienated the fans and critics who adored the Oscar-winning original.

Folie à Deux managed to scrape over the $200m (£158m) mark, but that was barely enough to cover its production budget, let alone marketing costs.

Where is any mention of Gaga? I know reading is hard for a lot of stans, but Joker 2 was not a movie Lady Gaga made.   Gaga was paid to play a role and that's what she did. She lost nothing with Joker 2 flopping.

 

Edited 19 hours ago by Sannie

[Magno]

4 hours ago, lgaga1fan said:

Troye Sivan is outstreaming Katy in the current year it's time to stop keeping Gaga's mouth in some of y'alls mouthes

Katy's always outstreaming Beyonce, THAT little things it's not that important at all 

[Magno]

On 12/26/2024 at 7:08 AM, Mariano said:

Not that person ignoring that Disease is outstreaming entire 143 album + it's brand new 4 tracks deluxe version and talking about Daisies  

Not you ignoring happy mistake tths song being outstreamed by every 143's not tths flopped songs.

This thing you all kept in secret

[Phaunzie]

22 hours ago, AvadaKedavra said:

My main main faves are Gaga,Katy Perry,Kesha and Rihanna. Love them since 2007-2008-2009
All of em are a flop or retired. 
Bring me back to the year of 2010-2011 when they were all smashing
Pray 4 me sistrens.

Me too :D. You will be in my thoughts and pray

[AvadaKedavra]

1 minute ago, Phaunzie said:

Me too :D. You will be in my thoughts and pray

Thank u hennie. Im still livin in that california gurls, only girl, telephone and tiktok loop. 
Put your drinks Up. Swag Swag. Lets watch jersey shore 

[Solar]

poor Todd Philips, good to know the acting was praised by the critics.

[bliaz]

On 12/25/2024 at 8:20 PM, lauvender said:

Gaga did

Flop Movie

Flop Soundtrack

Flop Jazz Album

Flop Demoted Lead Single 

Bruno really saved her 

[DoubleRainbow!]

Flops of a feather, we should flop together