news Zulock Couple Sentenced To 100 Years in Prison Each For SA Adopted Children

[Beyonnaise]

They deserve to die.

 

Christ, it's really unsettling how many people were waiting for a horrific story like this to unleash their homophobia  Obergefell will fall because of these scum.

Edited 21 hours ago by Beyonnaise

[iiswhoiis_max]

I hope everyone in jail finds out what they did. For... reasons. 

[Contessa]

You know what they say about when ppl go to prison for SAing minors…

 

I feel so badly for the victims 

[Cheers]

I want them tortured daily. Death is too easy of an escape for these PIGS!

[Park Jinyoung]

Evil pigs. Death can't come soon enough for them.

[Letters From Adi]

People like these make adoption harder for gays in the end

[Onyxmage]

Straight adoptive parents have been abusing their children since the beginning of time. This has NOTHING to do with them being gay. Some people are just monsters. 

[Rep2000]

So this is what the conservatives are choosing to spread the news on instead of keeping Gaetz accountable for his pedophilia.

[Chris]

Jesus Freaking Christ.

 

These stories get worse by the day.

 

I feel so bad for those children.

 

[1000 forms of queer]

2 hours ago, Onyxmage said:

Straight adoptive parents have been abusing their children since the beginning of time. This has NOTHING to do with them being gay. Some people are just monsters. 

I think you're missing the point. Homophobes love to use this kind of pedophilic material as ammunition against gays bc a lot of them see us as sexually perverted (specifically gay men). And we know that's not true - but that's the stereotype we get. Stories like this make it easy for them to say 'See what we mean?'

[Peroxide]

Evil in its purest form.

 

And like others have said… this just gives conservatives more ammunition to call us perverts and does active harm to the wider community.

 

I hope these gross, gross people rot in prison for the rest of their lives.

[Onyxmage]

34 minutes ago, 1000 forms of queer said:

I think you're missing the point. Homophobes love to use this kind of pedophilic material as ammunition against gays bc a lot of them see us as sexually perverted (specifically gay men). And we know that's not true - but that's the stereotype we get. Stories like this make it easy for them to say 'See what we mean?'

Who cares what homophobes think? Theres a thousand cases of STRAIGHT men abusing their adoptive children. Its actually extremely prevalent in the foster care system. That doesnt mean that straight people shouldnt be able to adopt. So like I said, perverts are perverts but if you want to stereotype then straight couples are far more dangerous than gay couples and the numbers dont lie. 

[ikiru]

15 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

Who cares what homophobes think? Theres a thousand cases of STRAIGHT men abusing their adoptive children. Its actually extremely prevalent in the foster care system. That doesnt mean that straight people shouldnt be able to adopt. So like I said, perverts are perverts but if you want to stereotype then straight couples are far more dangerous than gay couples and the numbers dont lie. 

You're still missing the point. Of course, there are many cases of straight men abusing children—no one would deny that—but unfortunately, that's not the focus of this discussion.

The concern here is about these men providing ammunition to homophobes, further fueling arguments to restrict LGBTQ rights, marriage, or adoption. The comments on Twitter are already filled with homophobes and Trump supporters.

[Onyxmage]

22 minutes ago, ikiru said:

 

You're still missing the point. Of course, there are many cases of straight men abusing children—no one would deny that—but unfortunately, that's not the focus of this discussion.

The concern here is about these men providing ammunition to homophobes, further fueling arguments to restrict LGBTQ rights, marriage, or adoption. The comments on Twitter are already filled with homophobes and Trump supporters.

Im not missing your point im disagreeing with it. Learn the difference. Twitter is an alt right website. What a great source for common sense responses.   These men dont represent all gay adoptive parents just like abusive straight couples dont represent all straight adoptive parents. I dont know how much simpler I can make it for you. 

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[Trash]

Seven ******* terabytes, what the hell, electric everything

[Peroxide]

4 hours ago, Onyxmage said:

Who cares what homophobes think? Theres a thousand cases of STRAIGHT men abusing their adoptive children. It's actually extremely prevalent in the foster care system. That doesnt mean that straight people shouldnt be able to adopt. So like I said, perverts are perverts but if you want to stereotype then straight couples are far more dangerous than gay couples and the numbers dont lie. 

Girl what's with the confused reactions to every post here?

 

The concern is legitimate.

 

Conservative media WILL MILK THIS STORY because it fits their narrative of gays being inherently demonic, perverted deviants.

 

Stories like this have wider ramifications for the larger community. It's an unfortunate reality.

[Contessa]

33 minutes ago, Peroxide said:

Girl what's with the confused reactions to every post here?

 

The concern is legitimate.

 

Conservative media WILL MILK THIS STORY because it fits their narrative of gays being inherently demonic, perverted deviants.

 

Stories like this have wider ramifications for the larger community. It's an unfortunate reality.

Onyx is pointing out that we need to actively push against the narratives the right will paint about being LGBT from this terrible story that is in no way representative of the LGBT community at large, while the posts seemingly getting mad at them (?) read more like complacent acceptance of these dangerous narratives as fact and offering "thoughts and prayers" rather than providing anything concrete to defend ourselves. Pointing out the obvious that the conservatives will have a field day about it is not enough, we need to stand our ground and fight against the dangerous and untrue narratives being thrust upon us.

[Cheers]

1 hour ago, Peroxide said:

Girl what's with the confused reactions to every post here?

 

The concern is legitimate.

 

Conservative media WILL MILK THIS STORY because it fits their narrative of gays being inherently demonic, perverted deviants.

 

Stories like this have wider ramifications for the larger community. It's an unfortunate reality.

Exactly. Especially now that conservatives are in complete control of the government.

[Peroxide]

1 hour ago, Contessa said:

Onyx is pointing out that we need to actively push against the narratives the right will paint about being LGBT from this terrible story that is in no way representative of the LGBT community at large, while the posts seemingly getting mad at them (?) read more like complacent acceptance of these dangerous narratives as fact and offering "thoughts and prayers" rather than providing anything concrete to defend ourselves. Pointing out the obvious that the conservatives will have a field day about it is not enough, we need to stand our ground and fight against the dangerous and untrue narratives being thrust upon us.

I understand to a point but we can fight against these narratives whilst still acknowledging they exist.

 

I'm failing to see how berating/challenging people for "stating the obvious" is conducive. And it's going to happen regardless of whether we're actively discussing it or not.

 

We know LGBTQ people aren't perverted, demonic pedophiles - ATRL is generally considered a safe space for us to share our thoughts and feelings on topics like this without having to filter ourselves for non queer people.

 

Obviously if I was discussing this news story with my family etc I'd express myself differently in an effort to not reinforce any stereotypes…

[Onyxmage]

5 hours ago, Peroxide said:

Girl what's with the confused reactions to every post here?

 

The concern is legitimate.

 

Conservative media WILL MILK THIS STORY because it fits their narrative of gays being inherently demonic, perverted deviants.

 

Stories like this have wider ramifications for the larger community. It's an unfortunate reality.

Theres NO confusion. Any case by ONE gay couple can be thrown back in their face with TEN cases of straight adoptive parents abusing their kids. Like i said the numbers dont lie. I dont care what MAGA or conservatives or what people who believe in fairy tales and Demons think. If they ever try to bring any type of case to court citing this incident a halfway decent lawyer can shut it down with multiple cases of straight people being just as abusive.  

Foster Care Abuse Statistics | Penny Lane Centers

[Contessa]

3 hours ago, Peroxide said:

I understand to a point but we can fight against these narratives whilst still acknowledging they exist.

 

I'm failing to see how berating/challenging people for "stating the obvious" is conducive. And it's going to happen regardless of whether we're actively discussing it or not.

 

We know LGBTQ people aren't perverted, demonic pedophiles - ATRL is generally considered a safe space for us to share our thoughts and feelings on topics like this without having to filter ourselves for non queer people.

 

Obviously if I was discussing this news story with my family etc I'd express myself differently in an effort to not reinforce any stereotypes…

Eh there are plenty of questionable members on this site already, and i'm sure a lot of impressionable members too that are facing challenges in real life and looking to civics threads for clarity and strength. Of course you can express your unfiltered thoughts about how ppl like this couple can shape the narratives regarding lgbt folk, and ppl can equally express their frustration over the festering of these narratives and lend an active voice to push against them. Having other members then jump on these voices and tell them they're "missing the point" is, whether knowingly or not, as equally damaging to the community as the conservatives spewing hatred. It's the same talking points the right will use against our active voices when we point out the obvious... Us: "You can't generalize the entire community by the actions of the few." Them: "You're missing the point... We are furious that lgbts like these are corrupting our children..."

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[Peroxide]

1 hour ago, Onyxmage said:

Theres NO confusion. Any case by ONE gay couple can be thrown back in their face with TEN cases of straight adoptive parents abusing their kids. Like i said the numbers dont lie. I dont care what MAGA or conservatives or what people who believe in fairy tales and Demons think. If they ever try to bring any type of case to court citing this incident a halfway decent lawyer can shut it down with multiple cases of straight people being just as abusive.  

Foster Care Abuse Statistics | Penny Lane Centers

Girl I'm not arguing with the data or the statistics or the reality that straight people are far more likely to be perpetrators of abuse than queer people.

 

Simply expressing frustration with how factions of society will use this story to embolden their own bigotry is legitimate