news Trump: day 1 will ban trans people from military, schools and gender affirming care

[808dream]

Good aim would have spared us from this nightmare 

[makeme]

American voters are stupid wbk 

[Communion]

Just now, loveisdead9582 said:

Once again, you have managed to take my words out of context. Literally one post up from the very small snippet you quoted I said "I don't think that many of us truly wanted Biden or Kamala to take office." Of the choices that we were forced to pick from, there was a lesser of two evils. 

You either genuinely don't get how the Democratic Party operates (and thus genuinely think this is a conversation where either you're being blamed as an individual voter or you pivot and blame other individual voters) or are defending elected Dems in bad faith. And of course leftists are gonna assume the latter when centrist electeds just blew $1b and yet you or others are still defending them by refusing to acknowledge them as the sole and only problem for why they lost. 

 

Leftists don't care about how individual people vote. Leftists are interested in material power. Harris didn't lose cause of voters - she lost cause donors and the chattering class who rule the Democratic Party pivoted it into a vehicle to enrich themselves and the affluent.

 

"Well I didn't want Biden" - no one is alleging anything over who you may or may not have wanted. But going "-yet *I* still voted for the lesser evil" shows an act of still trying to place the onus on the voter. It's like people are refusing to have their egg-crack moment where they finally realize the Democratic Party serves the interests of the rich and needs critical dismantling and rebuilding. 

 

The Democratic Establishment hand-selects unpopular candidates who appease their donors. The Democratic Establishment allows itself to lose elections on purpose because they're not interested in winning elections. No one who reluctantly votes for a lesser evil is going to catch heat unless they're also throwing themselves in front of their Dem electeds and defending them from being held accountable for their failures. 

[Communion]

16 minutes ago, a_d_22 said:

The reason Kamala lost is because most of the US is economically illiterate

I mean, this is exactly why Donald Trump won. Because voters rejected the sentiment they are too stupid to feel and recognize when they are suffering and their families are in pain.

 

The actual economic data would point to the voter being right. 

 

Wages have largely been stagnant and Americans' purchasing power has only stayed at being at least the same or having improved in specific areas because - ironically - the immense amount of what is now produced over the last decade in China cutting into production costs and thus keeping prices low. You can buy a 55" TV for basically pennies now at this point. 

 

Except the immense price cut in such commodities over the last decade didn't change the continued increases in how much people have to pay for revolving costs like housing/rent, transportation, insurance, etc. People began taking out immense levels of debt to survive during the pandemic and that debt still requires being paid off even as the prices of commodities like technology or other consumable goods like groceries fall back down post-COVID. 

 

Republicans told voters that they can't afford their rent or to go see a doctor because of undocumented trans prisoners. Is that insane? Sure. But Dem electeds also never once gave voters an alternative enemy to blame. Because they also can't blame their very same dobirs. 

 

Either trans people and migrants get sacrificed or health insurance CEOs get sacrificed. Pick one. 

[FameFatale]

He literally ran on that and mentioned it in all his stump speeches. People are shocked?

[BrokenMachine]

10 hours ago, Blade Runner said:

Lefties couldn't be happier, I guess. They told us both sides are equally evil. 

You're implying there's 'both sides' when in practice both 'sides' are right-leaning. One is just way more extremist that the other. None of them are left, so I don't get why you blame 'lefties' about it. 

[BrokenMachine]

3 hours ago, Minto said:

why is the average left voter being blamed for the candidate they voted for losing, am i missing something  

As others said in here, the average American voter doesn't have great thinking skills 

[Suilen]

Using this to point fingers is in poor taste. Donate to trans charities, HRT funds etc.

[Dera]

42 minutes ago, 808dream said:

Good aim would have spared us from this nightmare 

that was staged boss, I'm so certain

 

I don't doubt that the Trump team would move money and sacrifice a human life or two for strategic press

[BOOMBAYAH]

Lowkey, the right are the ones obsessed with the "woke" stuff. People are saying they're struggling to buy food, there's a homelessness crisis, a mental health crisis, people are struggling to or can't afford to have kids, and people can't pay for healthcare. Yet, your main focuses are trans people in bathrooms and race theory taught in schools lol.

[brazil]

9 hours ago, Gov Hooka said:

 

You all have brain rot. If you're still so mad about the fact that your trash candidate lost an election and are STILL blaming regular ppl instead of your total FAILURE of a candidate who ignored the demands of her base, then go donate $$$ to alleviate her campaign debt from all those pop concerts.  
like seriously seek help but idk if y'all can since youre permanently stuck in the shitlib echo chamber that cost your party the election 

They cant accept just how bad Kamala did, plus how bad old senile Biden was. 

[bunnyeyes]

10 hours ago, RoseGold said:

LMAO but transgender "activists" were on tiktok saying to not vote or vote for 3rd party because Kamala is JuST aS BaD. Same for the pro-Palestine performers on tiktok and twitter.

What the **** are you talking about? Statistically trans and queer people voted for Kamala overwhelmingly despite her campaign throwing trans people under the bus. Anecdotally, every single trans person in my circle was panicking trying to get their loved ones to vote for her ticket despite her center right campaign. We can acknowledge Gaza and still recognize she was the lesser of two evils. This isn't even mentioning that Kamala would have still lost even if she got the share of the third party vote. Laughing and rooting for how trans people are going to be harmed and how many could lose their lives in the next couple of years to "own the left"… you are evil if this is funny to you when the community still supported her.

Edited 8 hours ago by bunnyeyes

[Démodé]

2 hours ago, loveisdead9582 said:

I agree with just about everything you said in the bolded text. It's not just Trump that's the issue. It's the people around him who have far worse agendas and will now be in a position to actually try and make those agendas come to pass. It's the judges his administration will appoint having a long lasting negative effect on the country and our rights. It's the boldness that people felt to be openly hateful and engage in hate crimes and even an attempted coup/treason - some of whom will likely be pardoned and allowed to walk amongst society again. There hasn't really been a great option since Bernie was running in the democratic primary in 2016 and we saw how the DNC messed that up.
 

That said, there was a clear lesser evil here where things would either a) have stayed the same or b) might have seen some of the more troublesome individuals age out. Trump had said he wouldn't run again if he lost. Glitch McConnell and many others like him were getting to the point where they aren't going to physically be able to continue to stay in politics. 

I'm sorry but I cannot be optimistic about what a Democratic administration could have done if elected, while they clearly avoid ALL of those issues for the past 4 years. 

 

1 hour ago, a_d_22 said:

This is exactly the problem with the way the far left has gone in this country. Acting morally superior and being on your high horse isn't ever going to work. This alienates normal people and makes them roll their eyes, so in turn you get people wanting to kill the woke agenda cause it goes too far.

The fact that you (and other users here and people irl in general) label principles as moral superiority is far more telling than anything I'm gonna comment. 

 

Also, the comment about "normal" people...if by this you mean apolitical citizens, they'd better take a stance, or a stance is always imposed to them by governments and states. 

[Gottasadae]

but but economy... but but groceries will be less expensive ... 

 

Can't wait to hear dat mp3 in a few months 

 

[Orsay]

"Ban gender affirming care" how total is that part? Like he can't take that all the way no way

[XDNA]

7 hours ago, Communion said:

You forced onto the party someone who had rapidly worsening dementia as early as spring 2021 all because you hate socialism and didn't want to share doctor office waiting rooms with poor people. 

 

This is the legacy of centrism. 

 

Dafuq I nor anyone single-hadidly have that kind of power. At the end of the day, we all have to live with the consequences of he election.

 

 Also, you have no idea about my life or where I have lived. I have no problem with any of that and you're just reflecting and projecting as usual.

 

[XDNA]

7 hours ago, Fleahive said:

Not to be optimistic but Trump says a lot and never actually does much. He just likes to hear the crowd roar. His entire 2016 campaign was about building a huge wall. What happened to that? He doesn't know what he wants he just likes power and attention. Hopefully he spends most of his presidency golfing. 

I hope you're right. I'm concerned because it does seem like his transition team is working ahead this time so they can move quickly after inauguration. 

 

[XDNA]

6 hours ago, Cesar said:

The Libs in here still can't take any accountability. It's always other peoples fault other than their own. Your candidate sucked. Kamala couldn't even win the popular vote with the 1 BILLION dollars she had behind her.

 

Y'all need to grow up and take some accountability. 

And the people that attacked Kamala every day leading up to the election should take accountability for supporting Trump (directly or indirectly). Thus leading to this outcome in the nation. All the online performative purists have blood on their hands from the rise of suicide attempts by trans people and LGBTQ youth.

Edited 6 hours ago by XDNA

[cuteboyzay]

Let's thank AALLL the LGBTQ voters that based their vote solely on matters in the Middle East (which is STILL important as well) and not the BS we have to deal with here in the U.S.!!! 
 

All of y'all that voted third-party/Trump JUST BECAUSE you thought Kamala was "sketchy" and because she wasn't answering questions to the specificity that you guys thought she should've, just goes to show y'all were critical af with her from the start. Now look at what y'all did! 

[cuteboyzay]

11 minutes ago, XDNA said:

And the people that attacked Kamala every day leading up to the election should take accountability for supporting Trump (directly or indirectly). Thus leading to this outcome in the nation. All the online performative purists have blood on their hands from the rise of suicide attempts by trans people and LGBTQ youth.

I tried explaining this to one of my YT Gay friend (granted he's half Syrian but grew up very wealthy). And he seemed to not understand that his constant whining/demonization of Kamala although he was a leftist, is what helped Trump win. And I stand by that. He later understood what I meant, but that was after Trump won and EVERYTHING. 

[Independence]

Trans individuals in the military get their transitions covered from tax payer coins they just want their money being used elsewhere than something like that. 

[Superbitch]

Water is wet wbk…

[woohoo]

We all made our choices based on what we thought was good whether it did harm or not is up for debate, but now every choice has led us to dealing with this. And this is just the start. I left my shopping cart in the store because I looked around at people just living in bliss without a clue as to what is going to come over the next four years and had the feeling of despair and kinda wondering if I am losing grip on reality or if they simply hadn't grasped it yet. If we end up in a Gillead-esque country by 2026 it won't shock me one bit at this point. I mean we already see corporations bitching about birth rates and the rise of these religious nut cases. I hope yall voted because it was probably the last time 

[ABeyBraith]

Notice how they just want to ban trans people from things but are not offering 'solutions' to the so called problem. It's not 'we want to work with people who identify as trans to see if we can help them with their mental health and identities' it's 'WE ARE BANNING YOU SICK PERVERTS! TROONS!' It's beyond ******* cruel. 

[Bhabylon]

It's awful seeing how trans people are even being othered by people in the LGBT community  

I've heard comments from different (white) gays I know, and it's clear they're trying to distance themselves from trans issues, siding with the conservatives on this point as to try to prove that they're "normal"