Virgos Groove Posted Saturday at 10:08 PM Posted Saturday at 10:08 PM Quote Iran has paused the implementation of a new, stricter law requiring women to wear the hijab, an official said, with many observers believing that the bill could have sparked mass protests similar to those that erupted after the 2022 death of Mahsa Amini. The controversial law, approved by Iran's parliament in September 2023, will not be sent to the government this week as planned, according to Shahram Dabiri, vice president in charge of parliamentary affairs. The development effectively means that Iran has halted enacting the legislation. Quote Had the bill passed to the government, Iran's reformist President Masoud Pezeshkian would have had little room to manoeuvre. By law, he's required to endorse bills within five days, after which they take effect in 15 days. The president has no authority to veto bills. Pezeshkian could potentially appeal to Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has the ultimate authority on state matters, to intervene. If the bill had been enacted, the president could have also refused to act on the law or instructed police not to enforce it, potentially triggering a constitutional crisis that hard-liners might exploit to weaken his position. Pezeshkian earlier described the legislation as having "many questions and ambiguities". Euronews Maybe an Iranian ATRLer (are there any?) will be able to give some insight, but I assume the bombings by Israel and the fall of Assad hapenning right after he got inaugurated will have diminished his manouevering room. I hope he - and the Iranian people - can find a way to stop this bill, but it'll be impossible with the hard-liners being so emboldened.
Popular Post MidnightsAtPeace Posted Saturday at 11:36 PM Popular Post Posted Saturday at 11:36 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Virgos Groove said: Maybe an Iranian ATRLer (are there any?) will be able to give some insight. As someone who lives in Iran, I can say that no woman in my circle wears a hijab and at least 75% of women on the streets don't either. It's currently too much for them to handle and they obviously can't stop this huge wave of women fighting against oppression and forced hijab. Edited Saturday at 11:40 PM by MidnightsAtPeace 4 12
TiaTamera Posted Sunday at 01:42 AM Posted Sunday at 01:42 AM 2 hours ago, MidnightsAtPeace said: As someone who lives in Iran, I can say that no woman in my circle wears a hijab and at least 75% of women on the streets don't either. It's currently too much for them to handle and they obviously can't stop this huge wave of women fighting against oppression and forced hijab. Do you mind me asking why don't you guys were a hijab? I'm Muslim. Do y'all not want to because y'all just don't feel like it, do y'all think because it's not one of the 5 pillars that it's not "that big of the deal", or are y'all doing it because y'all don't want to subscribe to Islam? Or is it just a mixture of a bunch of things?
TiaTamera Posted Sunday at 01:43 AM Posted Sunday at 01:43 AM I find it interesting that there are some countries banning women wearing a hijab and then there are some countries forcing women to wear one. I don't think either is good because both take away the choice. Womanhood is so politicized. 2 2
aadrl1 Posted Sunday at 02:49 AM Posted Sunday at 02:49 AM 51 minutes ago, TiaTamera said: Do you mind me asking why don't you guys were a hijab? I'm Muslim. Do y'all not want to because y'all just don't feel like it, do y'all think because it's not one of the 5 pillars that it's not "that big of the deal", or are y'all doing it because y'all don't want to subscribe to Islam? Or is it just a mixture of a bunch of things? During the Ottoman Empire it was only a fashion sense that covers hair. And the coverings vary drastically among different social classes as representation of social status. Most of the 20th century sees the majority of Islamic females with no coverings at all. Only up untill the 1970s, Iran became the first country that codify such mandate into their law following their revolution. And the 80s witness consolidation of their political power structure and the intensifying oppression of female through hijab mandate. In the 21st century Iran ramp up their morality police cracking down on rule breaker with more advanced technology such as surveillance systems. Obviously defiance grew with oppression 1
aadrl1 Posted Sunday at 03:09 AM Posted Sunday at 03:09 AM 1 hour ago, TiaTamera said: I find it interesting that there are some countries banning women wearing a hijab and then there are some countries forcing women to wear one. I don't think either is good because both take away the choice. Womanhood is so politicized. France (the one that bans hijab in sports) is easily the country with the greatest anti-Islam sentiment, because they were also the country that has been through the most terrorist attacks among all Western countries. Since the Charlie Hebdo massacre, there are also the Jewish supermarket attack, the beheaded teacher, and the Nov 2015 attack (which is the largest scale with 6 attacks at the same time, passing 4 on 9/11 and London 7/7) But also note, Hijab ban is only applying to sports competitions, not for appearance in the public. Also abayas is banned from public schools
808dream Posted Sunday at 07:28 AM Posted Sunday at 07:28 AM I hope they'll set them free and let them wear what they want, it's 20f25 for God's sake!
TiaTamera Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago On 12/21/2024 at 11:09 PM, aadrl1 said: France (the one that bans hijab in sports) is easily the country with the greatest anti-Islam sentiment, because they were also the country that has been through the most terrorist attacks among all Western countries. Since the Charlie Hebdo massacre, there are also the Jewish supermarket attack, the beheaded teacher, and the Nov 2015 attack (which is the largest scale with 6 attacks at the same time, passing 4 on 9/11 and London 7/7) But also note, Hijab ban is only applying to sports competitions, not for appearance in the public. Also abayas is banned from public schools An abaya is just a dress tho, so I don't know why that got banned. I studied abroad in France and that's when they were in talks about wearing hijabs. if these "terrorists" attacks are "justification" for the ban, then African countries need to just go ahead and ban white people altogether. It's the men that are doing thr terrorizing, not the women. Why not ban kuffis or something? Or something associated with the men? Again, punishing women for men's actions. And the Charlie Hebdo incident was dumb because why even draw a cartoon of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) when they know it's widely disrespectful? Target did it intentionally. They shouldn't have killed people's but it's foolish to think they wouldn't retaliate. 1
aadrl1 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 6 hours ago, TiaTamera said: An abaya is just a dress tho, so I don't know why that got banned. I studied abroad in France and that's when they were in talks about wearing hijabs. if these "terrorists" attacks are "justification" for the ban, then African countries need to just go ahead and ban white people altogether. It's the men that are doing thr terrorizing, not the women. Why not ban kuffis or something? Or something associated with the men? Again, punishing women for men's actions. And the Charlie Hebdo incident was dumb because why even draw a cartoon of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) when they know it's widely disrespectful? Target did it intentionally. They shouldn't have killed people's but it's foolish to think they wouldn't retaliate. You're talking about freedom of dress code and then next thing you call freedom of journalism dumb So maybe France interprets Freedom in the opposite way
SlowGinFizzzz Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 15 hours ago, TiaTamera said: And the Charlie Hebdo incident was dumb because why even draw a cartoon of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) when they know it's widely disrespectful? Target did it intentionally. They shouldn't have killed people's but it's foolish to think they wouldn't retaliate. Calling the brutal murder of a dozen journalists an "incident" is crazy. If anyone can be triggered to the point where they straight up kill people just because of a cartoon (no matter how distasteful or disrespectful it may be considered, and no matter if it depicts a god, prophet, supernatural entity, sky daddy or the Pokémon Arceus), then clearly they're the problem, not the cartoon.
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