Dante Silva Posted February 10 Posted February 10 34 minutes ago, Vermillion said: Blind links please It causes too much drama if a source is not left wing and I don't need the drama of risking that they might not be.
Vermillion Posted February 10 Posted February 10 14 minutes ago, Dante Silva said: It causes too much drama if a source is not left wing and I don't need the drama of risking that they might not be. Fair. I mean, in the context of celeb news the New York Post, TMZ and the Daily Mail are posted here all the time. If it's from a political pundit like Candace Owens who seems so invested in this though then don't bother.
bjorn Posted February 10 Posted February 10 6 hours ago, Rico Shameless v2 said: Girl the whole website is in chronological order. But now we know you used ChatGPT it makes sense this doesn't line up with you actually reading it. Justin does welcome collaboration over the one scene she asked for specifically. Blake (i.e. Ryan) asked to leave notes on the rooftop scene injecting more of her own personality. Justin tells her he likes it but that he has to run it by the scriptwriter and that he himself envisions a mix of both their version and the original. Blake (Ryan) doesn't like this so they have the first intimidation meeting, disregarding what he said. Justin tells her she didn't have to have Ryan (and Taylor) gush over her version, that he welcomes ideas without the hoorah. Blake basically admits that it was an intimidation tactic by saying how they (Ryan & Taylor) are her titans. How everyone listens to them and how they stand up for her when she (Blake) is unable to. So the meeting definitely became a gang up on Justin ruse to make him fold to her changes. They didn't like that he called that out (kindly at that) so then came the second meeting (not even 2 weeks later) where she used Ryan to intimidate Justin over the whole weight thing and threatened to leave the film. And it's very clear from their communication that he respects her and wouldn't inquire about her weight negatively. The convos between Heath and the producer obviously come about after Justin had expressed privately that he was feeling ambushed and pressured (my own observation). And he is walking on eggshells at this point so he won't aggressively tell Blake to stand down. He essentially admits this when he has the meeting with her about how she's taken over the wardrobe (by saying in text to Heath that he ignored his gut feelings from previous interactions with her). But it's too late. Now, admittedly he dug his own grave by being a ***** and not telling her to sit the **** down but that's neither here or there at this point, he allowed it to happen and the manipulation was too great (along with Ryan being a juice head and Taylor's influence over the project/Blake's desires). I wouldn't call this "two-faced". He was in an impossible situation of his leading lady being manipulative / nice-nasty and was navigating expressing his concern with producers + keeping her "happy". Again, had he been more stern about that process it wouldn't have gotten there but he was trying to be a "different" director to what she claims to have experienced her entire career. She unfortunately used his kindness for her own gain. It's at this point it's noted she has been changing the script daily. This is very different from having notes on the one scene, but again he didn't stand up for himself so. That's pretty much all that needs to be said about that without turning this into a novel. As for the rest, after the grievances you're (or ChatGPT) actually misinformed about them having "moved forward". Firstly, they barely texted each other directly after the Sony reach out and in the short time that they did it was either "keep the peace" messages or her increasingly demanding access to film edits/dailies, etc. As at this point she feels completely emboldened to do and ask for whatever she wants, knowing that she has the upper hand as filming had begun. When we get to the list of protections, she still demands to have access to the script and make changes that have nothing to do with her alleged concerns. They have their first contact in months (via email) about meeting after she delayed production 2 more months. At that meeting, instead of discussing production she REHASHES things they had already considered resolved. Ryan is present here again and is again acting like he eats steroids for breakfast, lunch and dinner. You're completely lying about them still communicating happily in February 2024, because this is when she reached via her attorneys threatening that if she didn't have the ability to be in the editing room and actively putting the film together she couldn't promise to promote the movie. Justin had all but ceased communication with Blake the Summer 2023 because of the way she was manipulating things. He hated her by February 2024 and was just happy the film was done shooting and (sadly) thought the worst was behind him. Any messages between them at this point is Justin trying to maintain order and not delve into chaos because Blake has already put fear and retaliation on the table as her negotiations. Nothing more or less. So either you are not the brightest, your ChatGPT needs an update or you're a Blake stan. No one had to "tell" Blake she wasn't welcome. She was going to make herself welcome either way. There's plenty of instances in these messages of them telling her how things had to or needed to go and she responded with attorneys or threats. I hope her defense lawyer thinks the same as you so this can wrap quickly during trial and he can move on while her career remains the same as it was. scalp that robot 2
bjorn Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Not the judge DENYING Blake and Ryan's extension of their amendment 3 2
Aiya Posted February 12 Posted February 12 43 minutes ago, bjorn said: Not the judge DENYING Blake and Ryan's extension of their amendment Really?
bjorn Posted February 12 Posted February 12 9 minutes ago, Aiya said: Really? From Candace latest TikTok. Couldn't find anywhere else. 2
GiselleBeyince Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) Using AI to formulate a thought is crazy when there's a literal website with summaries and a timeline. This is my issue, Blake supporters are not reading these filings or are too illiterate to understand them. Everytime I see one of her stans saying anything about the facts or receipts in this matter, it's always wrong. Simple ass points that they would already know if they had read even an inch of the filings. Lol at Blake and Ryan requesting an extension until March from the judge, yet, he only gave them an extra business day; their deadline was Feb 14, now it's Feb 17. I thought her stans said she has a big smoking gun and that she'll drop in court? Why are they still delaying and begging for more time? Must be going rabid behind the scenes to conjure up something now. It's hilarious to see how this all backfired but they are in it far too deep now to admit the truth. I'm sure both sides have been trying to negotiate a deal, but the lie was so harmful to Justin's career that a "recollections may vary" would not be enough here. Bryan Freedman said they would have to say it was an outright lie, which is only fair.... Can we ever see them releasing a statement saying it was made up and they apologize, move on, etc? That's the only path. Edited February 12 by GiselleBeyince 10
Vermillion Posted February 12 Posted February 12 14 hours ago, bjorn said: Not the judge DENYING Blake and Ryan's extension of their amendment 13 hours ago, bjorn said: From Candace latest TikTok. Couldn't find anywhere else. You'll have to go to the actual court docket site to get access to the letter, but here's the quote: 4
Trent W Posted February 13 Posted February 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, GiselleBeyince said: Using AI to formulate a thought is crazy when there's a literal website with summaries and a timeline. This is my issue, Blake supporters are not reading these filings or are too illiterate to understand them. Everytime I see one of her stans saying anything about the facts or receipts in this matter, it's always wrong. Simple ass points that they would already know if they had read even an inch of the filings. Lol at Blake and Ryan requesting an extension until March from the judge, yet, he only gave them an extra business day; their deadline was Feb 14, now it's Feb 17. I thought her stans said she has a big smoking gun and that she'll drop in court? Why are they still delaying and begging for more time? Must be going rabid behind the scenes to conjure up something now. It's hilarious to see how this all backfired but they are in it far too deep now to admit the truth. I'm sure both sides have been trying to negotiate a deal, but the lie was so harmful to Justin's career that a "recollections may vary" would not be enough here. Bryan Freedman said they would have to say it was an outright lie, which is only fair.... Can we ever see them releasing a statement saying it was made up and they apologize, move on, etc? That's the only path. I seriously can't think how is it possible that Blake has "defenders" or "stans" defending her online in February 2025 after everything There were a lot of swifties who were on her side in the last few weeks, which that was extremely evil and demonic, but at least they were pretending to be on her side because they were trying to protect Taylor from being shitted all over, and well s-hit already got to her face. Now that Taylor has distanced herself, they all evaporated from these conversations So what's left to defend? Who is on Blake's side? Edited February 13 by Trent W 2 2
Walk_Away21 Posted February 13 Posted February 13 1 hour ago, GiselleBeyince said: Using AI to formulate a thought is crazy when there's a literal website with summaries and a timeline. This is my issue, Blake supporters are not reading these filings or are too illiterate to understand them. Everytime I see one of her stans saying anything about the facts or receipts in this matter, it's always wrong. Simple ass points that they would already know if they had read even an inch of the filings. Lol at Blake and Ryan requesting an extension until March from the judge, yet, he only gave them an extra business day; their deadline was Feb 14, now it's Feb 17. I thought her stans said she has a big smoking gun and that she'll drop in court? Why are they still delaying and begging for more time? Must be going rabid behind the scenes to conjure up something now. It's hilarious to see how this all backfired but they are in it far too deep now to admit the truth. I'm sure both sides have been trying to negotiate a deal, but the lie was so harmful to Justin's career that a "recollections may vary" would not be enough here. Bryan Freedman said they would have to say it was an outright lie, which is only fair.... Can we ever see them releasing a statement saying it was made up and they apologize, move on, etc? That's the only path. Everything points to Blake attempting a smear campaign but there's still that doubt in the back of my mind that she's innocent. Because it's legit sociopathic and double career ending if her and her husband faked these stories and sexual harassment. 4 2
Acuminatus Posted February 13 Posted February 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, Walk_Away21 said: Everything points to Blake attempting a smear campaign but there's still that doubt in the back of my mind that she's innocent. Because it's legit sociopathic and double career ending if her and her husband faked these stories and sexual harassment. It is possible Blake is delusional and truly thinks she was harassed, even if in actuality it was maybe an uncomfortable moment or two with Baldoni. In which case she wouldn't be faking everything. And Ryan just went along with what she said. However, based on the evidence so far, Blake needs to come out with some big smoking gun piece of evidence for me to be convinced that something happened. Edited February 13 by Acuminatus 4
bjorn Posted February 13 Posted February 13 https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNd18cSUY/ not the Forbes official TikTok posting this now just to add fuel to the fire 4
GiselleBeyince Posted February 13 Posted February 13 (edited) 9 hours ago, Trent W said: I seriously can't think how is it possible that Blake has "defenders" or "stans" defending her online in February 2025 after everything There were a lot of swifties who were on her side in the last few weeks, which that was extremely evil and demonic, but at least they were pretending to be on her side because they were trying to protect Taylor from being shitted all over, and well s-hit already got to her face. Now that Taylor has distanced herself, they all evaporated from these conversations So what's left to defend? Who is on Blake's side? I've noticed the Swifties have let up and slowly left the chat. But there are a couple of Amber Heard and Believe ALL Women feminist accounts on X & Bluesky pushing for Blake hard. They all went so hard in December after her first complaint that they can't admit being wrong. We always say sexµal harassment/assault allegations never affect men, but this might be the first time Hollywood turned on a famous man (Depp never got dropped, Brad Pitt is fine, Majors still books jobs, Trump is President). SAG, WME, Sony, social media, big legacy media, and Blake's Hollywood colleagues all rebuked him. He faced actual consequences from the accusations. Something we haven't seen recently. It was also cathartic because of the summer 2024 press tour where she was vilified for the marking campaign while he came out smelling like roses. Her supporters from then got their lick back. A lot of feminist, esp (some) White feminists are trying hard to hold on to the glory days of the MeToo movement. Blake Lively is too famous and has too much proximity to power/influence to go down for them. She has all the makings to be the new face of the MeToo movement and to dispel a lot of myths. Blake as a true victim in this matter would strengthen an important point of there being no perfect victims. A once hated woman that actually beat the rhetoric and won? It would be a nice narrative to have in these times. Being the wife of a rich, powerful, and famous man doesn't protect women from the violence of other men. Married to guy's guy Ryan Reynolds and he would leverage his fame and fanbase against her accuser -- to them -- this was an easy victory for Liberal feminists. MeToo's redemption. A lot of us/them are still bitter at Amber losing the PR and legal battle in the US. We know Depp utilized bots to do it, but AH didn't have access to Blake's wealth, proximity to power, and fame to fight the battle. No big celeb connection or powerful man in her corner. She was basically left for dead w/ the power imbalance she had w/ Johnny. Lively is the perfect vassal to expose the Depp media strategy; abusive men using social media disinformation campaigns to destroy victims. I also realize how political this has gotten. Even in this very thread, if anyone posts a Candace Owens video, they are rebuked in the strongest of terms. Blake used the New York Times as her conduit. The NYT is the biggest legacy media in the world. Got a popular and well respected journalist to write the piece targeting Baldoni. The journalist in question? The same woman that won a Pulitzer prize for the most famous Me Too takedown, Harvey Weinstein. Blake's team was smart. They knew their audience and went directly to them while using every buzzword, dogwhistle, and progressive rhetoric they could find incite outrage from the sheep. I give them their flowers for the December complaint/article (even though they wholefully underestimated JB). This was only a month after America elected a convicted rapist and misogynist in Trump, the mansophere and rightwing gym/tech bros holding significant space in our culture, and the Left's hatred of male feminists. No one likes male feminists because of the alarming correlation between famous men that carry that title and the high rates of them being accused/convicted of sexual assault. This is a legit skepticism to have imo. Justin Baldoni considers himself to be one (MF) and his team also hired Melissa Nathan, Depp's old crisis PR lady. Are you noticing the trends here? it's lowkey the perfect story for chronically online, political factions in this country. That's exactly why this story is so big and a thread like this has 49 pages. It's big on every platform amongst a wide range of demographics. Male podcasters are covering it, straight males are now forming opinions, and the True Crime/YT creators are making bank off of it because of the legal angle. Liberals are fighting for their ideological credibility and cultural identity. We are losing a lot of ground. Blake Lively's case is too big to fail for our demographic. Personally, I'm not going down w/ the ship if this Blake Lively case is steering it. I understand that we're in a bad place rn, but this is not the hill we should die on. Still defending her when we have evidence to believe that she is lying or mischaracterizing their interactions is not okay. It's dangerous and idc if Justin is backed by a billionaire. There is a clear power imbalance between Baldoni and Lively/Reynolds. It wasn't a fair fight. So many feminists online question why women support JB by arguing we are closer to Blake's position societally than his, but I find the comparison ridiculous. Cuz wouldn't Justin be closer to Amber in this dynamic? Am I suppose to believe that Justin is the one that carries Depp's cultural and professional leverage over Blake/Ryan et al? They forget that people's connection to their identity lessens the futher up they climb the wealth and social ladder. Blake has long passed (and probably never had) the arch of professional sufferation many women 9-5ers are experiencing in the workplace. Be forreal....sis is now an extension of her rich, a$$hole husband's corporate persona. Another billion dollar entity that has stepped on everyone and anyone to reach to the top in a ruthless, scheming industry. Do we really believe Blake was gonna cede her privilege to a former CW actor no one knew when she has access to her husband's cruel (unlimited) industry apparatus to weaponize against him? Women like Blake only remember they're women when they can use it as tools for influence, whether romantically or professionally. Using it as a shield to victimize themselves and curry favor w/ the lowerclass foot soldiers and virtue signalers in their ideology group. (Sorry for the long post) Edited February 13 by GiselleBeyince 8
MattieB Posted February 13 Posted February 13 11 hours ago, Trent W said: I seriously can't think how is it possible that Blake has "defenders" or "stans" defending her online in February 2025 after everything There were a lot of swifties who were on her side in the last few weeks, which that was extremely evil and demonic, but at least they were pretending to be on her side because they were trying to protect Taylor from being shitted all over, and well s-hit already got to her face. Now that Taylor has distanced herself, they all evaporated from these conversations So what's left to defend? Who is on Blake's side? I do tbh, radical leftists who believe the woman can do no wrong and an accusation on the man is very much damning. Everything they do tracks, from refusing to listen to what Justin and his team out, even if they do they immediately deflect and use an excuse to discredit him. They even blamed Taylor's TMZ PR piece on him You don't reason with people like that, they're the MAGA of the left, Justin was guilty THE MOMENT Blake accused him of SA, all of a sudden people who have been on the internet for decades are questioning why negative videos about unpopular celebrities are going viral when they begin to trend. 4
Trent W Posted February 13 Posted February 13 4 hours ago, GiselleBeyince said: I've noticed the Swifties have let up and slowly left the chat. But there are a couple of Amber Heard and Believe ALL Women feminist accounts on X & Bluesky pushing for Blake hard. They all went so hard in December after her first complaint that they can't admit being wrong. We always say sexµal harassment/assault allegations never affect men, but this might be the first time Hollywood turned on a famous man (Depp never got dropped, Brad Pitt is fine, Majors still books jobs, Trump is President). SAG, WME, Sony, social media, big legacy media, and Blake's Hollywood colleagues all rebuked him. He faced actual consequences from the accusations. Something we haven't seen recently. It was also cathartic because of the summer 2024 press tour where she was vilified for the marking campaign while he came out smelling like roses. Her supporters from then got their lick back. A lot of feminist, esp (some) White feminists are trying hard to hold on to the glory days of the MeToo movement. Blake Lively is too famous and has too much proximity to power/influence to go down for them. She has all the makings to be the new face of the MeToo movement and to dispel a lot of myths. Blake as a true victim in this matter would strengthen an important point of there being no perfect victims. A once hated woman that actually beat the rhetoric and won? It would be a nice narrative to have in these times. Being the wife of a rich, powerful, and famous man doesn't protect women from the violence of other men. Married to guy's guy Ryan Reynolds and he would leverage his fame and fanbase against her accuser -- to them -- this was an easy victory for Liberal feminists. MeToo's redemption. A lot of us/them are still bitter at Amber losing the PR and legal battle in the US. We know Depp utilized bots to do it, but AH didn't have access to Blake's wealth, proximity to power, and fame to fight the battle. No big celeb connection or powerful man in her corner. She was basically left for dead w/ the power imbalance she had w/ Johnny. Lively is the perfect vassal to expose the Depp media strategy; abusive men using social media disinformation campaigns to destroy victims. I also realize how political this has gotten. Even in this very thread, if anyone posts a Candace Owens video, they are rebuked in the strongest of terms. Blake used the New York Times as her conduit. The NYT is the biggest legacy media in the world. Got a popular and well respected journalist to write the piece targeting Baldoni. The journalist in question? The same woman that won a Pulitzer prize for the most famous Me Too takedown, Harvey Weinstein. Blake's team was smart. They knew their audience and went directly to them while using every buzzword, dogwhistle, and progressive rhetoric they could find incite outrage from the sheep. I give them their flowers for the December complaint/article (even though they wholefully underestimated JB). This was only a month after America elected a convicted rapist and misogynist in Trump, the mansophere and rightwing gym/tech bros holding significant space in our culture, and the Left's hatred of male feminists. No one likes male feminists because of the alarming correlation between famous men that carry that title and the high rates of them being accused/convicted of sexual assault. This is a legit skepticism to have imo. Justin Baldoni considers himself to be one (MF) and his team also hired Melissa Nathan, Depp's old crisis PR lady. Are you noticing the trends here? it's lowkey the perfect story for chronically online, political factions in this country. That's exactly why this story is so big and a thread like this has 49 pages. It's big on every platform amongst a wide range of demographics. Male podcasters are covering it, straight males are now forming opinions, and the True Crime/YT creators are making bank off of it because of the legal angle. Liberals are fighting for their ideological credibility and cultural identity. We are losing a lot of ground. Blake Lively's case is too big to fail for our demographic. Personally, I'm not going down w/ the ship if this Blake Lively case is steering it. I understand that we're in a bad place rn, but this is not the hill we should die on. Still defending her when we have evidence to believe that she is lying or mischaracterizing their interactions is not okay. It's dangerous and idc if Justin is backed by a billionaire. There is a clear power imbalance between Baldoni and Lively/Reynolds. It wasn't a fair fight. So many feminists online question why women support JB by arguing we are closer to Blake's position societally than his, but I find the comparison ridiculous. Cuz wouldn't Justin be closer to Amber in this dynamic? Am I suppose to believe that Justin is the one that carries Depp's cultural and professional leverage over Blake/Ryan et al? They forget that people's connection to their identity lessens the futher up they climb the wealth and social ladder. Blake has long passed (and probably never had) the arch of professional sufferation many women 9-5ers are experiencing in the workplace. Be forreal....sis is now an extension of her rich, a$$hole husband's corporate persona. Another billion dollar entity that has stepped on everyone and anyone to reach to the top in a ruthless, scheming industry. Do we really believe Blake was gonna cede her privilege to a former CW actor no one knew when she has access to her husband's cruel (unlimited) industry apparatus to weaponize against him? Women like Blake only remember they're women when they can use it as tools for influence, whether romantically or professionally. Using it as a shield to victimize themselves and curry favor w/ the lowerclass foot soldiers and virtue signalers in their ideology group. (Sorry for the long post) This is a very perfect analysis of how politically deep this case has become. Honestly this case will be hurting feminists in a major way, the best thing is just to drop Blake at this point, any blog, podcast, content creator on her side will burn their reputation Hell even Candace has rebuild her reputation among people that hate her, just by posting facts. Her politics suck but posting pure facts will always her anyone, the truth is the ultimate re-builder. I think the MeToo movement is over, it has been infiltrated by people like Blake and radical extremists like Believe all Women. Its over because they don't follow the truth, they just want to take down any men. 2
BionicWooHoo Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Honestly never heard of Justin Baldoni before this movie but glad that I did, he's so hot tbh and seems like a much nicer person than Blake
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