news And just like that, Elon Musk kills bill that would've prevented government shutdown

[XDNA]

And just like that, Republican Unelected Co-President Elon Musk has killed the bill to keep the government from shutting down on Friday. All he had to do was make a few social media posts. 

Trump said he'd empower working people, all he's done is empower the ultra wealthy.

https://bsky.app/profile/maxwellfrost.bsky.social/post/3ldmchrizp223

 

Sequence of Events:
-House Republicans and put forward a spending bill that Speaker Johnson has the majority to pass
-Musk tells them to oppose it
-House Republicans begin to oppose
-Musk says voice of god prevails
-then Trump says he's opposed to it, undermining Johnson along the way

 

 

[Hector]

Genuinely hate this timeline. 

[RoyalT]

Sza's impact 

[RihRihGirrrl]

Welcome to the President Musk era

[IsidoraMarí]

Yeah I agree with Elon and Trump. That 40% raise for Congress.... no ma'am

[Communion]

Still feels odd that liberals want to convince me that it's a bad thing that China regularly imprisons and disappears their billionaires.

Edited 3 hours ago by Communion

[jadeabove]

I really think Elon is underestimating the impact that of his actions. He is setting a precedent, and whenever wind will start blowing in a different direction, and it will inevitably with how much of a shitbag he and this administration is, he will be receiving the heat. Basically, he will be the scapegoat that Trump needs to avoid further consequence. He doesn't know he is the butt of the joke yet, but he will learn it the hard way. 

[Onyxmage]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

Still feed odd that liberals want to convince me that it's a bad thing that China regularly imprisons and disappears their billionaires.

This topic having ZERO to do with liberals. 

 

You: buT LiBeRALz. 

[Communion]

11 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

This topic having ZERO to do with liberals. 

I mean, it does. It has to do with America and liberals define the political tone in America.

 

Liberals suggest pragmatic reform and democracy are the main avenues to protect norms in America, yet clearly it's not working.

 

Seeing a billionaire completely uproot the so-called norms of America despite the alleged rail-guards in place makes me as an American more open to authoritarianism as a viable option of something different to try. If this was China, Musk would probably be gone already and all of his assets expropriated without compensation by the government. Maybe the government is more effective when it can strip people of their rights if such includes the rich.

Edited 3 hours ago by Communion

[Gov Hooka]

1 hour ago, Hector said:

Genuinely hate this timeline. 

The timeline has been put in place since all levers of the democrat party decided to squash out the movement/figures in and of that movement that was opposed to billionaires and their interests. This is the end result 

but I guess the billionaires running the Dem party, squashing out any progressive legislation and opposition to ISISrael, etc. are acceptable enough but when a "bad" billionaire wields the same power and control out in the open, suddenly it becomes unacceptable 

[Illuminati]

7 minutes ago, Communion said:

I mean, it does. It has to do with America and liberals define the political tone in America.

 

Liberals suggest pragmatic reform and democracy are the main avenues to protect norms in America, yet clearly it's not working.

 

Seeing a billionaire completely uproot the so-called norms of America despite the alleged rail-guards in place makes me as an American more open to authoritarianism as a viable option of something different to try. If this was China, Musk would probably be gone already and all of his assets expropriated without compensation by the government. Maybe the government is more effective when it can strip people of their rights if such includes the rich.

If the US was a dictatorship like China, but under Trump, how do you think he would use his authoritarian powers and who would be the ones most likely to be disappeared?

[James_Dean]

I had no idea we elected Musk into office 

[Communion]

7 minutes ago, Illuminati said:

If the US was a dictatorship like China, but under Trump, how do you think he would use his authoritarian powers and who would be the ones most likely to be disappeared?

Trick question because people like Trump don't come into power in a system like China's where the social contract relies on maintaining a basic economic sense of norm and their billionaires end up being imprisoned for life for doing something as common in America as grave financial deception and crime.

 

"You want to consolidate power but what if.... the BAD people had the power????" as a liberal proverb doesn't work. Girly, they already have the power!

 

Too busy fear-mongering over centrally-planned economies that you've missed America already becoming a Russian oligarchy. 

 

Really not seeing the downsides the government having the total power to lock up people for the act of simply being too rich! Really thinking we should give it a try!

 

Let's keep cranking that class war dial up!! Let's normalize the idea that the government's job is to imprison and torture people who become too rich!

Edited 2 hours ago by Communion

[Pheromosa]

so...what now?

[Cesar]

3 minutes ago, Communion said:

Let's keep cranking that class war dial up!! Let's normalize the idea that the government's job is to imprison and torture people who become too rich!

Sounds like America has been doing the reverse, with the way homelessness is criminalized, and now detention centers are gonna add more ways to 'legally' enslave people

[CandyCoatedClouds]

I didn't realize that Elon was also voted in when they voted for Trump /s

 

 

 

[Communion]

4 minutes ago, Cesar said:

Sounds like America has been doing the reverse, with the way homelessness is criminalized, and now detention centers are gonna add more ways to 'legally' enslave people

"But have you considered voting to stop the unelected billionaire oligarch???"

[Illuminati]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

Trick question because people like Trump don't come into power in a system like China's where the social contract relies on maintaining a basic economic sense of norm and their billionaires end up being imprisoned for life for doing something as common in America as grave financial deception and crime.

 

"You want to consolidate power but what if.... the BAD people had the power????" as a liberal proverb doesn't work. Girly, they already have the power!

My point was that The good people don't get that kind of absolute power because authoritarian control can only be consolidated through brutal measures and keeping the public afraid/suspicious/fragmented/fighting each other.

 

If Trump was a dictator the billionaires wouldn't be the ones to end up in camps. Your wish to turn to dictatorships for a better life hinges that the good guy will murder the most people to get to the top before others seize power.

 

26 minutes ago, Communion said:

Too busy fear-mongering over centrally-planned economies that you've missed America already becoming a Russian oligarchy. 

You're getting way ahead of yourself making assumptions that I was unaware that Trump equals bad, something I've been saying from the beginning hot mama!

 

You were the one downplaying the consequences of this election and attacking anyone who brought up Trump... because dems, blue maga, etc!!!

[XDNA]

21 minutes ago, Pheromosa said:

so...what now?

They probably will work something out (but worse), because Repubs will have less house seats in the upcoming congress. The alarming thing here is how shamelessly Musk is able to whip Repubs to his whim. 

[Communion]

22 minutes ago, Illuminati said:

My point was that The good people don't get that kind of absolute power because authoritarian control can only be consolidated through brutal measures and keeping the public afraid/suspicious/fragmented/fighting each other

And I'm saying this liberal ideal you have is wrong and not working. 

 

You feign concern over what social abuses happen when government exerts its force yet 1) can't answer to how such abuses already happen under liberal democracy and 2) that the point and efficacy of a broad, expansive government is in its ability to subjugate businesses forces. Clutching your pearls and inventing specters of the government subjugating powerless people to distract from the need of society to subjugate the figures and forces of business and commerce just epitomizes the problem.

 

The point of referencing China is to be a bit antagonistic - because it shows how easily questions liberalism can't answer appear to have solutions in what America vilifies.

 

Even your doubling-down on not having any answers reverts to the kind of whining liberalism has become known for.

 

"People would have to die!!" lol girl?? They already do! Just the poor ones! You're exemplifying the problem in fear-mongering over "authoritarianism" and the need for liberals to begin to understand much of what they fear as "authoritarianism" is simply the rich not wanting to be controlled by a centralized government force. Reminder, in America, Citizens United stood because unlimited political spending by the rich is based on the principle of "free speech". 

 

An effective government would have never allowed for Elon to buy Twitter (our government forced him to go through with buying it). An effective government would not hesitate to stop billionaires from amassing the power they have. An efficient government would not hesitate to strip Musk of his wealth for the greater stability of society. Liberal democracy is clearly an inefficient form of governance. Trump's win itself shows people have little worry over protecting democratic institutions and want radical change to provide stability to their lives. Liberal fear-mongering simply gets in the way for politicians to ride cultural currents they need to.

 

We should, in fact, have Democratic politicians who run on subjugating the rich and playing into the joy common people feel over slamming the hammer down on the swamp of billionaires.

Edited 1 hour ago by Communion

[Breathe On Moi]

56 minutes ago, Pheromosa said:

so...what now?

literally nothing, we do nothing, we get to sit back and continue watching the descent, all while clutching to those ATRLers' words that said "nothing will happen."

[Pheromosa]

14 minutes ago, XDNA said:

They probably will work something out (but worse), because Repubs will have less house seats in the upcoming congress. The alarming thing here is how shamelessly Musk is able to whip Repubs to his whim. 

I can't believe they switched just because he tweeted. We're cooked but whatelse is new

[PoisonPill]

Elon's hunger for presidential power is going to start making Trump feel threatened. Trump wants loyal hype-men and minions, not co-stars who he has to share the spotlight with. My guess is that Trump turns on him fairly soon into his term and cuts him out of the administration.

[Gov Hooka]

26 minutes ago, Breathe On Moi said:

literally nothing, we do nothing, we get to sit back and continue watching the descent, all while clutching to those ATRLers' words that said "nothing will happen."

Go join your local org and help the people in your immediate era. That's what you do. 

[BOOMBAYAH]

lol, now I see why the CCP stays locking up Chinese billionaires who step out of line. This is crazy.