news EPA grants California permission to ban gas cars by 2035, Trump to attempt block

[Vermillion]

 

[Pheromosa]

forcing electric cars on people yuck

[KillingYourCareer]

Will EPA give Californians the money to buy expensive and inconvenient electric cars too?  

[schnetzka]

Are there enough electric car charging stations around the place for this?

[Attitude]

The infrastructure isn't there. Invest in more public transportation instead of wasting our time on this.

 

[Princess Aurora]

I'm wondering what Elon Musk thinks of this 

[Anthinos]

We need to switch to electric cars. Climate change is no joke. I personally prefer public transportation like subways etc. but the reality is that the majority of people want cars. Then they should at least switch to electric cars.

[CottageHore]

Mandating this would be 1. A huge governmental power overstep and 2. Completely ignorant of how this would impact marginalized groups and people of low SES. I drove an electric rental car on vacation last month and absolutely hated it. The car held a charge so poorly and locating a car charger that could charge the car in less than 4 hours was nearly

impossible. They can't mandate anything that we don't yet have the infrastructure for. We would need a car charger to be available and affordable or free of charge at every single parking lot in existence. This ignores so many socioeconomic disparity issues too like how most people can't afford electric vehicles nor can they afford charging them. What's more- what do people in rural areas do?

[Euiwoong]

The mandate should be for hybrid vehicles in my opinion. An EV mandate is too much too soon.

 

That being said, the state should have the right to do this without consulting the federal government in my opinion. There's been too much of a power grab by the Feds.

[Gui Blackout]

Doing this without having big subsidizing plans for electric cars and massive new public transportation investments is just ridiculous 

[Azulito]

If California was serious about wanting to reduce emissions they'd be fully funding and expediting approvals for high speed rail and metro systems across the state. Electric cars are an improvement over gas cars, but at the end of the day this does nothing to address the issue of car-reliance in the first place. You can also reduce emissions by just... not building unsustainable suburban sprawl.

[XDNA]

Cheap EVs already exist for $10k. The problem is that they're Chinese EVs and Musk is doing everything he can to prevent them from entering the US.

[Sawk]

But conservatives told me they're all for states' rights 

[Into The Void]

Maybe they should build more charging stations for electric cars if they want people to convert 

[Into The Void]

5 hours ago, XDNA said:

Cheap EVs already exist for $10k. The problem is that they're Chinese EVs and Musk is doing everything he can to prevent them from entering the US.

Who makes a cheap EV?

[PoisonPill]

7 hours ago, Anthinos said:

We need to switch to electric cars. Climate change is no joke. I personally prefer public transportation like subways etc. but the reality is that the majority of people want cars. Then they should at least switch to electric cars.

How about we can all make that decision for ourselves?

[bad guy]

Focusing on more production of electric cars that mostly run on lithium batteries, which require mining to produce, is amazing for the environment. It's also very convenient when a trip from one major city to another is between 4-8 hours where there's an abundance of charging stations in the middle of the hundreds of miles of farmland between them for people to sit around for hours getting their cars all charged up 

 

Since there's no big corporation lobbying for accessible public transit the most realistic and effective option isn't on the table unfortunately.

Edited Thursday at 02:34 AM by bad guy