MP3 Posted December 15 Posted December 15 (edited) Federal elections will take place in Canada in 2025. The legal date is October 20, 2025, but they may take place before that.   Projection of popular vote and seats projection. (172 seats is needed for a majority)   Evolution of the popular vote projection since January 1, 2022   JUSTIN TRUDEAU Liberal Party of Canada  Centre to centre-left Canadian Liberalism, Social Liberalism  In office since 2015, the Liberal Party has collapsed in the polls since the summer of 2023 in favor of the Conservative Party. After a promising start, the party quickly lost its pedals and fell into irrecoverable ideological drifts that led to its probable loss. After two minority elections, the Liberal Party of Canada will probably suffer a historic defeat.   PIERRE POILIEVRE Conservative Party of Canada  Centre-right to right-wing Canadian Conservatism, Economic Conservatism  The opposition party since 2015, the Conservatives have been leading in the polls for the past year and a half by substantial margins. Voters' fed up with the Liberals' erratic and irresponsible management of finances and the grip of woke ideology will give the Conservatives a likely landslide majority in the next election.   YVES-FRANÇOIS BLANCHET Bloc Québécois  Centre to Centre-left Quebec Nationalism and Sovereigntism  The only provincial party represented at the Federal level, the Bloc Québécois has seen its support explode since the election of Justin Trudeau in 2015. Looking out for the interests of Quebec only while waiting for a hypothetical referendum on Quebec sovereignty, if the Liberals continue their descent, the Bloc could well become the official opposition party in Canada, a first since 1993.   JAGMEET SINGH New Democratic Party of Canada  Centre-left to left-wing Social Democracy  Having become an ally of the Liberals by creating an alliance to keep them in power, the NDP tore up that deal in 2024, opening the possibility of an election before the legal deadline. The NDP is seeing its support slowly declining and could suffer its worst score since 2004.     Edited December 15 by MP3
Mezik Posted December 15 Posted December 15 Terrified for Pierre coming in power, and just destroying everything there is left. Those who think Justin is bad (which he is) don't realize Pierre is 10x worst. Â 2
Pikachoo Posted December 15 Posted December 15 omg I thought an election had been called and I was terrified that PP would be voted in at the WORST possible time. Â Â
MP3 Posted December 15 Author Posted December 15 2 hours ago, Kamil24 said: Time for Justin to leave Totally and time for the LPC to re-center themselvesÂ
MP3 Posted December 15 Author Posted December 15 2 hours ago, Mezik said: Terrified for Pierre coming in power, and just destroying everything there is left. Those who think Justin is bad (which he is) don't realize Pierre is 10x worst. Â With the right rising up in Western countries we need a solid Prime Minister that will give Canada its power again because for now we are a joke in front of every nations in the world. Trudeau and his government destroyed our country, every major countries are well recovered from COVID except us, our economy is falling apart, we lost any control on immigration, the middle class percentage is diminishing every year, we really need someone who can fix that because other wise we are going to our lost 1
MP3 Posted December 15 Author Posted December 15 2 hours ago, Pikachoo said: omg I thought an election had been called and I was terrified that PP would be voted in at the WORST possible time. Â Â I think a late spring election is probable
Pikachoo Posted December 15 Posted December 15 7 minutes ago, MP3 said: I think a late spring election is probable I don't think NDP or the Bloc are going to vote for a vote of no confidence. I thought so, but with Trump now looming over us, they may want to stall the CPC coming in
MP3 Posted December 15 Author Posted December 15 4 minutes ago, Pikachoo said: I don't think NDP or the Bloc are going to vote for a vote of no confidence. I thought so, but with Trump now looming over us, they may want to stall the CPC coming in With Trump taking office in January, the pressure will be huge on Canada's politic to elect a popular Prime Minister rather than to keep a falling one that still have a couple of months left. The NDP will try to keep them as long as possible because they don't have any ressources to go in election sooner but the Bloc is ready and wait only for that
midnightdawn Posted December 16 Posted December 16 If Trudeau resigned would his replacement have a chance at improving their result much or is it too far gone at this point?
Mezik Posted December 16 Posted December 16 Just now, midnightdawn said: If Trudeau resigned would his replacement have a chance at improving their result much or is it too far gone at this point? Too far gone at this point.  The issue is our Conservative leader, Pierre P, is going to sweep - and he is 10x worst than JT (believe it or not) who will just exacerbate everything. Unfortunately a lot of folks in Canada (and on this forum) are illiterate when it comes to Canadian politics and think the PC party is the party of reason / fiscal responsibility, when in reality they are usually the most costly because of everything they destroy (look at Ontario's & Alberta's Premier right now ).  Really the only hope is that after this next election the NDP put a really strong Jack Layton-esque contender as the leader... because the Liberals are gonna be destroyed for a few election cycles. 1 1
MP3 Posted December 16 Author Posted December 16 10 hours ago, Mezik said: Too far gone at this point.  The issue is our Conservative leader, Pierre P, is going to sweep - and he is 10x worst than JT (believe it or not) who will just exacerbate everything. Unfortunately a lot of folks in Canada (and on this forum) are illiterate when it comes to Canadian politics and think the PC party is the party of reason / fiscal responsibility, when in reality they are usually the most costly because of everything they destroy (look at Ontario's & Alberta's Premier right now ).  Really the only hope is that after this next election the NDP put a really strong Jack Layton-esque contender as the leader... because the Liberals are gonna be destroyed for a few election cycles. You can't complain in the same response that conservatives spend too much while rooting for a NDP government, it's just non-sense. 1
MP3 Posted December 16 Author Posted December 16 10 hours ago, midnightdawn said: If Trudeau resigned would his replacement have a chance at improving their result much or is it too far gone at this point? Maybe if it is someone completely new, that doesn't have any link with the Trudeau government whatsoever and is way more on the center spectrum than the party is currently, but I can't see it happen honestly. The polls will probably get tighter along the campain but Poilievre will win a majority 1
Pikachoo Posted December 16 Posted December 16 Freeland resigned. apparently she disagreed with the GST holiday break. Â Guess an election is coming sooner than we think 1
Mezik Posted December 16 Posted December 16 5 hours ago, MP3 said: You can't complain in the same response that conservatives spend too much while rooting for a NDP government, it's just non-sense. This is just ignorance talking.  NDP's spend on social programming, Conservatives spend on privatization and cutting programs that increase overall costs. You are simply pulling every right-winged individuals tool set and acting as if investing in proper social securities is wrong, when study after study shows by ensuring the people are protected and accounted for, outcomes are better.  Pierre has promised nothing that will benefit the working class. Saying I am spewing nonsense when my education is in social policy and government, and I have front line experience seeing how devastating PC polices are in Ontario, and how similar rhetoric spewed by the federal PC party will further exacerbate this does not make any sense. Believe me sweetie, I am not dumb, nor ignorant to government policy in Canada and you should not be saying I'm 'non sense' without taking a moment to recognize I know a thing or two. 1
Kamil24 Posted December 16 Posted December 16 The PCs in Ontario are much better than the previous corrupt government and would still win a majority if another election was held today, after 6 years in power  The federal liberal government falling apart Â
MP3 Posted December 16 Author Posted December 16 51 minutes ago, Pikachoo said: Freeland resigned. apparently she disagreed with the GST holiday break.  Guess an election is coming sooner than we think It's really bad for the Liberals The Vice Prime Minister and the Finance Minister resigning just before the holidays and an électoral year is a very bad sign for the following
Pikachoo Posted December 16 Posted December 16 27 minutes ago, Mezik said: This is just ignorance talking.  NDP's spend on social programming, Conservatives spend on privatization and cutting programs that increase overall costs. You are simply pulling every right-winged individuals tool set and acting as if investing in proper social securities is wrong, when study after study shows by ensuring the people are protected and accounted for, outcomes are better.  Pierre has promised nothing that will benefit the working class. Saying I am spewing nonsense when my education is in social policy and government, and I have front line experience seeing how devastating PC polices are in Ontario, and how similar rhetoric spewed by the federal PC party will further exacerbate this does not make any sense. Believe me sweetie, I am not dumb, nor ignorant to government policy in Canada and you should not be saying I'm 'non sense' without taking a moment to recognize I know a thing or two. I don't like PP at all, but one thing I will give him is he was one of the first to speak up about unaffordable housing. I don't expect him to do **** all about it, but he at least made an attempt to address it while the Liberals were twiddling their thumbs. 1
Mezik Posted December 16 Posted December 16 Just now, Pikachoo said: I don't like PP at all, but one thing I will give him is he was one of the first to speak up about unaffordable housing. I don't expect him to do **** all about it, but he at least made an attempt to address it while the Liberals were twiddling their thumbs. NDP and Green Party (both better options than PP) have been speaking about unaffordable housing for eons, and have expressed how it impacts those who are the most vulnerable in society more. Â PP will do jack-**** for affordable housing and be Doug 2.0 making sure private development companies win. Â Â PP is a life-time politician with no real-world experience, and the fact PC voters are foaming at the mouth for him when he's a career politician and nothing else (and if you look at this voting record, he's voted against abortion, LGBTQ+ rights, various aid packages for social services, and just about anything that would benefit the average Canadian). I mean, he was the one having coffee with the COVID Convoy protestors saying they were the ones who were misunderstood as they were holding downtown Ottawa hostage. Â Â There is nothing PP brings to the table, that will benefit Canada. We know he's gonna win, but if people think Canada is bad now wait till he's in. 1
MP3 Posted December 16 Author Posted December 16 34 minutes ago, Mezik said: This is just ignorance talking.  NDP's spend on social programming, Conservatives spend on privatization and cutting programs that increase overall costs. You are simply pulling every right-winged individuals tool set and acting as if investing in proper social securities is wrong, when study after study shows by ensuring the people are protected and accounted for, outcomes are better.  Pierre has promised nothing that will benefit the working class. Saying I am spewing nonsense when my education is in social policy and government, and I have front line experience seeing how devastating PC polices are in Ontario, and how similar rhetoric spewed by the federal PC party will further exacerbate this does not make any sense. Believe me sweetie, I am not dumb, nor ignorant to government policy in Canada and you should not be saying I'm 'non sense' without taking a moment to recognize I know a thing or two. What costs the taxpayer are social programs precisely. These are expensive because they are multiplied by either the entire population or by a part of it. And these costs only grow because they follow the evolution of the population and the change in demographics. Everyone is for a social safety net but when this safety net becomes too big, it creates a dependency and makes a part of the population more inclined to a reduction in productivity. These safety nets that the left wing are very fond of are supposed to be of a fixed duration so that then the people benefiting from them return to social contributions. This same safety net that caused a large part of our historical deficit.
Pikachoo Posted December 16 Posted December 16 8 minutes ago, Mezik said: NDP and Green Party (both better options than PP) have been speaking about unaffordable housing for eons, and have expressed how it impacts those who are the most vulnerable in society more. Â PP will do jack-**** for affordable housing and be Doug 2.0 making sure private development companies win. Â Â PP is a life-time politician with no real-world experience, and the fact PC voters are foaming at the mouth for him when he's a career politician and nothing else (and if you look at this voting record, he's voted against abortion, LGBTQ+ rights, various aid packages for social services, and just about anything that would benefit the average Canadian). I mean, he was the one having coffee with the COVID Convoy protestors saying they were the ones who were misunderstood as they were holding downtown Ottawa hostage. Â Â There is nothing PP brings to the table, that will benefit Canada. We know he's gonna win, but if people think Canada is bad now wait till he's in. oh I agree with you, trust me. was just playing devil's advocate.
Mezik Posted December 16 Posted December 16 5 minutes ago, Pikachoo said: oh I agree with you, trust me. was just playing devil's advocate. It's just sad that there are two viable parties with the NDP and Green that will never be given a chance, when their platforms are usually the best crafted ones. Â I wish we were more like Europe with a ton of different official parties and then they had to work together to form a collation.
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