news A mass animal sacrifice festival is underway in Nepal. Activists say it needs to stop

[Delirious]

The amount of meat eaters getting mad over this.

 

I have to laugh. 

[Delirious]

  On 12/11/2024 at 8:56 PM, Sawk said:

If most people saw what happens to chickens in cages for example… like…

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And what happens to male chickens 

 

And like someone pointed out, the Thanksgiving rituals... like c'mon lol

 

It's right in front of our eyes and they're choosing to ignore it

[Mornings]

Yeah Eurocentric societies have no respect. "Let's kill another cultural practice this year!"
 

Mind your business. When America stops funding mass murder we can start looking at other cultures. We have so many issues of our own to sort out first. Ridiculous and racist and ignorant 

Edited December 11, 2024 by Mornings

[Sawk]

  On 12/11/2024 at 8:58 PM, Delirious said:

And what happens to male chickens 

 

And like someone pointed out, the Thanksgiving rituals... like c'mon lol

 

It's right in front of our eyes and they're choosing to ignore it

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To be fair, it's not in the government's best interest for the American people to really know what happens to these animals in slaughterhouses so information regarding their practices is not heavily promoted. 

[AMIT]

I get the hypocrisy of ''meat eaters'' when it comes to something like this, however I feel like this comparison misses the point in that the root cause of the issue with the meat industry lies in the production, not in the consumption (although of course both are issues and feed into one another). There are also many levels to this when it comes to class and even geopolitics. Putting it on that kind of framework exposes how berating poor/lower class people for eating meat is not a very productive way of pushing veganism discourse, considering the biggest issue here is the fact that it's actually rich people benefiting the most from the production and consuming of meat (just like they do pretty much everywhere else).

 

Awareness is always a good thing and I'm not arguing against that, just not sure how vilifying any and everyone for eating meat, looking past all this context, is set to accomplish much in the grand scheme of things. Eating meat x not eating meat is not about personal, individual values and does not make one person worse or better than another, at least how I see it. I do agree however that it is transparent and hypocritical of the kind of staunch meat eaters that can't bear any criticism and nuance to be so apparently outraged by this and similar practices. 

[Bumba]

People can eat whatever they want, but killing for rituals should not be defended lmao. Unless they were used at food ofcourse. Then it's whatever

[Trent W]

  On 12/11/2024 at 8:52 PM, Delirious said:

Meh who cares. Why is it suddenly a problem when Nepalese people do it when y'all have been doing it for centuries.

 

I'm a vegan btw. Go Nepal! 

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This post is alarming

 

How can you claim to be vegan and support animal sacrifices?

 

This type of post is the reason why no one takes vegans seriously

 

You are there for your cause just to hate on someone who eats meat but support someone who kills an animal just for the sake of an ignorant tradition 

[Delirious]

  On 12/11/2024 at 11:09 PM, Trent W said:

This post is alarming

 

How can you claim to be vegan and support animal sacrifices?

 

This type of post is the reason why no one takes vegans seriously

 

You are there for your cause just to hate on someone who eats meat but support someone who kills an animal just for the sake of an ignorant tradition 

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How do you know they're not eating it though? And male chicken babies get slaughtered all the time without been consumed. Make it make sense

[Delirious]

  On 12/11/2024 at 10:13 PM, Bumba said:

People can eat whatever they want, but killing for rituals should not be defended lmao. Unless they were used at food ofcourse. Then it's whatever

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Male chickens get crushed when they're babies. Explain that.

[Delirious]

  On 12/11/2024 at 10:07 PM, AMIT said:

I get the hypocrisy of ''meat eaters'' when it comes to something like this, however I feel like this comparison misses the point in that the root cause of the issue with the meat industry lies in the production, not in the consumption (although of course both are issues and feed into one another). There are also many levels to this when it comes to class and even geopolitics. Putting it on that kind of framework exposes how berating poor/lower class people for eating meat is not a very productive way of pushing veganism discourse, considering the biggest issue here is the fact that it's actually rich people benefiting the most from the production and consuming of meat (just like they do pretty much everywhere else).

 

Awareness is always a good thing and I'm not arguing against that, just not sure how vilifying any and everyone for eating meat, looking past all this context, is set to accomplish much in the grand scheme of things. Eating meat x not eating meat is not about personal, individual values and does not make one person worse or better than another, at least how I see it. I do agree however that it is transparent and hypocritical of the kind of staunch meat eaters that can't bear any criticism and nuance to be so apparently outraged by this and similar practices. 

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Veganism is not for the rich. It is for the poor. Many studies have been conducted for this.

 

Eating meat and not supporting this is 100% hypocritical point blank period.

[50thStateofMind]

  On 12/11/2024 at 7:27 PM, l3disko said:

Its my first time asking that question, and its to test your logical consistency, which isn't even possible since it seems you're unable to engage in hypothetical scenarios.

 

If someone asked you what you'd do if you were on the Titanic and it started sinking - your response equivalence would be "and how exactly would that happen? Time travel isn't possible. I have not and would never plan on traveling by ship" 

 

Do you know you end up making yourself look foolish when you assume things when calling someone out?

 

I don't eat meat.

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you asked it twice, and both times got clocked by someone more intelligent than you who knew exactly what you were trying to do. Intelligent conversations do not engage in absurd hypotheticals. It's a logical fallacy to appeal to extremes to attempt to make a point.

[l3disko]

  On 12/12/2024 at 2:23 AM, 50thStateofMind said:

you asked it twice, and both times got clocked by someone more intelligent than you who knew exactly what you were trying to do. Intelligent conversations do not engage in absurd hypotheticals. It's a logical fallacy to appeal to extremes to attempt to make a point.

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Literally never happened.

 

Go back a few pages and fact check yourself.

[AMIT]

 

  On 12/11/2024 at 11:54 PM, Delirious said:

Veganism is not for the rich. It is for the poor. Many studies have been conducted for this.

 

Eating meat and not supporting this is 100% hypocritical point blank period.

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Mind sharing at least one of those supposed studies? Genuinely curious.

 

Besides, if what you took from my previous post was ''veganism is for the rich, not the poor" idk what to tell you, sis.  Might want to consider reading it again, cause this hasty reply with such a superficial (and wrong) interpretation really isn't it. Do you even realize the absurdity of what the first part of your post implies? So rich people shouldn't be vegans and can thus eat (or better, continue to do) whatever/how much of it they want with no repercussions/pushback/criticism at all?  Do you also believe then that rich people *SHOULD* exist and that they are then beholden to a different set of rules that don't apply to anybody else? 

 

Also, I'm not arguing that that such stance is not hypocritical, but by making that claim you are therefore agreeing that BOTH (the cultural festival and meat eaters) are in the wrong... yet this was what you had to say about the topic:

 

  On 12/11/2024 at 8:52 PM, Delirious said:

Meh who cares. Why is it suddenly a problem when Nepalese people do it when y'all have been doing it for centuries.

 

I'm a vegan btw. Go Nepal! 

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Like I get the perspective here and generally agree with the sentiment, but it makes it seem like your stance is a bit contradictory, doesn't it? 

[Trent W]

  On 12/11/2024 at 11:53 PM, Delirious said:

How do you know they're not eating it though? And male chicken babies get slaughtered all the time without been consumed. Make it make sense

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Because a "sacrifice" usually has ancient religious or traditional context.

 

They are not killing an animal for survival, they do it because of an irracional belief 

 

Which makes the whole thing stupid af

[Delirious]

  On 12/12/2024 at 4:13 AM, Trent W said:

Because a "sacrifice" usually has ancient religious or traditional context.

 

They are not killing an animal for survival, they do it because of an irracional belief 

 

Which makes the whole thing stupid af

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What makes you say if something is a rational or unrational belief? Let people do what they want when everyone else already doing it.

[Delirious]

And killing male baby chickens for 'survival'? Be for real. It's nearly 2025 and there's not need to kill baby chickens.

 

The coping continues 

[NextBish90]

I cannot believe some people are actually defending these acts, masking them like culture? The world is really going backwards. I'm sure these animals have been way more deserving to live than some people. Also, what's next - kill all the gays and castrate all the women and make them disappear, because this is a culture now? 

[Comedor]

The good and evil battle in this thread, when the reality is that both sides are evil.

[Bumba]

  On 12/11/2024 at 11:53 PM, Delirious said:

Male chickens get crushed when they're babies. Explain that.

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Girl ask the chicken industry, I'm not part of that 

[Trent W]

  On 12/12/2024 at 6:57 AM, Delirious said:

What makes you say if something is a rational or unrational belief? Let people do what they want when everyone else already doing it.

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This doesn't apply in a situation when you are affecting the life of a other sentient being.

 

 

 

 

[Assassin]

  On 12/11/2024 at 2:21 AM, Sabrina Carpenter said:

at least the animals killed during Thanksgiving have the purpose of being consumed

 

this one is just killing animals for fun 

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About 200 million pounds of turkey are thrown out over the Thanksgiving holiday week, according to estimates from the Natural Resources Defense Council.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/thanksgiving-food-waste-prevention-tips

Edited December 14, 2024 by Assassin

[XXI.]

  On 12/11/2024 at 1:44 AM, Mordecai said:

By this same logic homophobes are immune from criticism because who are we to tell them their religious beliefs are wrong?

 

Cultural values aren't immune from criticism because of their very nature, you can respect a culture's right to practice its customs but you can also acknowledge how they may be 'wrong' from your own perspective

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These are two very different situations. Everyone has the right to hold their own beliefs, including their views on gay people. If someone dislikes gay people, they are entitled to that belief, for whatever reason they choose.

 

However, the situation changes when those beliefs lead to actions that harm others, such as committing a hate crime or an act of violence against someone simply because of their sexual orientation. Disagreement or dislike is one thing, but acting on those feelings in a way that causes harm crosses a different line.

 

Killing thousands of animals as part of a cultural tradition to "gain good fortune" seems unnecessary and lacking in compassion...

 

[Gagaast]

I am from Nepal and I had not heard about this until now.

[gatito]

as a meat eater i endorse this practice 

[Cheers]

Are they consuming the meat or not?