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9 hours ago, loveisdead9582 said:

So… looks like this was a big bag of bullshit from the get go?

More holes in her story than Swiss cheese smdh

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Vermillion said:

The notion that Jay-Z didn't have a friendship with Diddy as the lawyer is implying is ludicrous.

Whilst it's easy to find plenty of pictures of them together, it doesn't mean they're friends. All these photos of them together are at industry events.

 

Diddy did not attend Jay and Beyoncé's wedding. Diddy never vacationed with them (despite him vacationing with his friends every Summer).

 

Sounds more like colleagues/business acquaintances than friends. People are confusing the two. As two of the biggest hip-hip artists of course they moved in the same circles. Are you friends with everyone that attends the same work functions as you? I know I'm not. It should also be noted that Jay and Diddy never had any business dealings directly with one another.

 

But even if they were friends, not sure what difference it makes to anything. All that really matters is whether it can be proved he raped the woman - and so far there's no evidence of that.

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6 hours ago, Vermillion said:

The notion that Jay-Z didn't have a friendship with Diddy as the lawyer is implying is ludicrous.

Y'all are so DUMB! It is really bothering me at the levels of dizzy and denseness at play. It has to be something deeper (see: racism, stan wars, etc) because I can't be convinced that you "process" ish like this in your "real" lives.

 

ANYONE who truly follows the culture/our culture (which is probably the key differential here) knows that Diddy and Jay do not roll together "like that". They've definitely been snapped together and been more cordial in RECENT YEARS as they've championed the whole notion of "Black excellence and elevation". Especially in a post-BLM climate. 

 

But it's crucial to note that, if anything, they've been moreso RIVALS in mogul stakes. A lot of the boss business moves Jay has been making since transitioning out of being solely a rapper are kinda rivaling a lot of what Diddy had been doing before. The label, the drinks deals, the lifestyle ish. If anything, you could argue there was friendly rivalry more than anything. 

 

There is NO formal affiliation between Roc Nation and Bad Boy nor are their musical endeavors in any way tied.

 

Some of y'all are so reckless in overly trying to tie Jay to Diddy on some Mario/Luigi x Batman & Robin tea because of what? A few pictures? Because they are two Black men in rarified spaces?

 

Diddy deserves his lashings as his wrongs are provable. But to create a false equivalency is dangerous and rooted in toxicity. A toxicty that when you put your head to your pillow you ought to really examine what it stems from. Racism? Stan wars? A lack of education? Maybe all of the above. 

 

I would never speak with my chest about ish that happens in Becky and Bill land (e.g. Taylor and co) because I don't occupy those spaces and frankly DGAF. Maybe it's worth taking the same cue. 

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Crazy how this thread just went silent. People were so adamant in dragging Bey into this and now.. crickets.

 

But I give it another week or two before it gets dropped. This is why you keep your mouth shut until the facts come out and don't go grandstanding like you're some god who knows everything. Let the professionals handle it and keep your (wrong) commentary to yourself. Also poor Vermillion getting every literal hair follicle ripped out by the Hive :skull: 

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1 hour ago, Cbreezy said:

Y'all are so DUMB! It is really bothering me at the levels of dizzy and denseness at play. It has to be something deeper (see: racism, stan wars, etc) because I can't be convinced that you "process" ish like this in your "real" lives.

 

ANYONE who truly follows the culture/our culture (which is probably the key differential here) knows that Diddy and Jay do not roll together "like that". They've definitely been snapped together and been more cordial in RECENT YEARS as they've championed the whole notion of "Black excellence and elevation". Especially in a post-BLM climate. 

 

But it's crucial to note that, if anything, they've been moreso RIVALS in mogul stakes. A lot of the boss business moves Jay has been making since transitioning out of being solely a rapper are kinda rivaling a lot of what Diddy had been doing before. The label, the drinks deals, the lifestyle ish. If anything, you could argue there was friendly rivalry more than anything. 

 

There is NO formal affiliation between Roc Nation and Bad Boy nor are their musical endeavors in any way tied.

 

Some of y'all are so reckless in overly trying to tie Jay to Diddy on some Mario/Luigi x Batman & Robin tea because of what? A few pictures? Because they are two Black men in rarified spaces?

 

Diddy deserves his lashings as his wrongs are provable. But to create a false equivalency is dangerous and rooted in toxicity. A toxicty that when you put your head to your pillow you ought to really examine what it stems from. Racism? Stan wars? A lack of education? Maybe all of the above. 

 

I would never speak with my chest about ish that happens in Becky and Bill land (e.g. Taylor and co) because I don't occupy those spaces and frankly DGAF. Maybe it's worth taking the same cue. 

Not the Chris Brown stan making some valid points. :clap3:

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3 hours ago, Burn said:

Whilst it's easy to find plenty of pictures of them together, it doesn't mean they're friends. All these photos of them together are at industry events.

 

Diddy did not attend Jay and Beyoncé's wedding. Diddy never vacationed with them (despite him vacationing with his friends every Summer).

 

Sounds more like colleagues/business acquaintances than friends. People are confusing the two. As two of the biggest hip-hip artists of course they moved in the same circles. Are you friends with everyone that attends the same work functions as you? I know I'm not. It should also be noted that Jay and Diddy never had any business dealings directly with one another.

 

But even if they were friends, not sure what difference it makes to anything. All that really matters is whether it can be proved he raped the woman - and so far there's no evidence of that.

Exactly. Real ones know that Jay-Z's friends are Kareem Burke, Jay Brown, TyTy, Emory, and maybe a couple others that blur the line between employee/friend, but the bottom line is they are all in his inner circle. Diddy has never been in that circle.

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Jay-Z's lawyer made a point to distance his client from Sean "Diddy" Combs in an interview with NBC News on Monday, saying there's "no friendship" between the two.
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The rapper's attorney, Alex Spiro, told NBC News in an on-camera interview that "there is no friendship or longtime bond here" and added that "just because they knew each other, know each other, that doesn't mean anything."

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Jay said:

 

"This ain't friendship (woo)"

 

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That's why I am not entertaining stupid stances that those people have. Jay-Z, Beyoncé in particular, have very little industry friends. Still they're friendly and cordial to everyone. Some more than others. 

 

But it's not a conversation that Atrl cares about, tbh they would be shocked to know that Kanye is not friends with them either. Although he was definitely closer than a lot of the industry. 

Kanye West and the rest learned it when they weren't invited at their wedding. Still not quite understanding it, Kanye extended the invitation to his own wedding to them and neither showed up. 

 

Now did they hate Diddy? No, they were supportive of him and quite friendly, and clearly liked him a lot. But even if we take the 2003's VMAs, two life friends wouldn't have the need to host 2 different VMAs after-parties on the very same day, they would have just done a joint event. The idea of Jay doing an event and Jay Brown, TyTy or even Chris Martin doing the same type of event the same night is ludicrous. 

 

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1 hour ago, Arrogant said:

Exactly. Real ones know that Jay-Z's friends are Kareem Burke, Jay Brown, TyTy, Emory, and maybe a couple others that blur the line between employee/friend, but the bottom line is they are all in his inner circle. Diddy has never been in that circle.

Facts. Hov was friends with Big and Big died trying to get the hell away from Diddy. 

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Don't belive it 

 

 

 

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Now that's a certified lie. 

 

That lie just went double platinum 

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As a longtime Bey fan who has followed them pretty closely, Diddy never appeared to be in his inner circle. They were friends but they didn't seem to hang out intimately very much. It was more like they'd agreed to be friendly and not get in each other's way. There are other celebs with much closer and public relationships with Diddy

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They need to sue Bumsbee into oblivion. He is so scummy. Starting a hotline for victims should have been the first red flag but everyone is so willing to believe anything. :ace:

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to the tune of american requiem

 

it's a lot of stupid people in here

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55 minutes ago, Kimmo said:

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Are you telling me that two people in the same industry attended the same industry events and didn't mean mug each other the entire time? Wow. This is unheard of. You really cracked the case. Have you thought about applying to law school?

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28 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

to the tune of american requiem

 

it's a lot of stupid people in here

They all must be really close with their coworkers. I mean, that's the only way their logic holds up. They clock out of their shifts at Walmart and then attend orgies together.

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11 minutes ago, Arrogant said:

Are you telling me that two people in the same industry attended the same industry events and didn't mean mug each other the entire time? Wow. This is unheard of. You really cracked the case. Have you thought about applying to law school?

 

 

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1 minute ago, Seeyuh said:

 

 

It's still industry ****. I need you all to understand what friendship and closeness means, because it's going over your heads.

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2 minutes ago, Arrogant said:

It's still industry ****. I need you all to understand what friendship and closeness means, because it's going over your heads.

this is like when megan thee stallion denied sleeping with tory lanez. if u lie about a detail. nobody will believe the rest.

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3 minutes ago, Seeyuh said:

this is like when megan thee stallion denied sleeping with tory lanez. if u lie about a detail. nobody will believe the rest.

Lol. We believe Megan, the fact that you don't believe her or think she should be shot in the foot are traits that are yours tbh. 

 

 

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Beyonce gives me the vibe of someone who's very shy and like a mother and in her inner circle of friends. Her industry friends are rare
She's 4 sure in her free time reading about art, listenin african music and beekeping and recording and helping her babies
She's friends besties with Shakira and lemme tell you. Shakira friends are usually very serious people.
She only befriends artists who are very chill and like "classy" Shakira like beyonce is a traditionalist i think?
This is the reason why both connected. Theyre not into messy stuff.
Shakira opposite would be someone like charli xcx whos' into wild partying

Now jay z. Sometimes people have facades. I know so many husbands who have a secret life and their wives dont know anything
Specially if theyre rich. They have too many ways to hide stuff. 
Open grindr and look how many husbands are betraying their wives and the wives dont have any idea.
i think diddy was always cordial with Beyonce but he knew she has walls. Specially cause Beyonce comes from wealth.
She's was not involved in that street life. She was always a homegirl.
Jay z. Dont know what to think about him. Time will tell.......if more people come with allegations and stuff it will be 100% over for him
but the backlash is not as big as i thought. Here in Latinoamerica this is not gettin like real big traction.

 

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4 hours ago, Cbreezy said:

Y'all are so DUMB! It is really bothering me at the levels of dizzy and denseness at play. It has to be something deeper (see: racism, stan wars, etc) because I can't be convinced that you "process" ish like this in your "real" lives.

 

ANYONE who truly follows the culture/our culture (which is probably the key differential here) knows that Diddy and Jay do not roll together "like that". They've definitely been snapped together and been more cordial in RECENT YEARS as they've championed the whole notion of "Black excellence and elevation". Especially in a post-BLM climate. 

 

But it's crucial to note that, if anything, they've been moreso RIVALS in mogul stakes. A lot of the boss business moves Jay has been making since transitioning out of being solely a rapper are kinda rivaling a lot of what Diddy had been doing before. The label, the drinks deals, the lifestyle ish. If anything, you could argue there was friendly rivalry more than anything. 

 

There is NO formal affiliation between Roc Nation and Bad Boy nor are their musical endeavors in any way tied.

 

Some of y'all are so reckless in overly trying to tie Jay to Diddy on some Mario/Luigi x Batman & Robin tea because of what? A few pictures? Because they are two Black men in rarified spaces?

 

Diddy deserves his lashings as his wrongs are provable. But to create a false equivalency is dangerous and rooted in toxicity. A toxicty that when you put your head to your pillow you ought to really examine what it stems from. Racism? Stan wars? A lack of education? Maybe all of the above. 

 

I would never speak with my chest about ish that happens in Becky and Bill land (e.g. Taylor and co) because I don't occupy those spaces and frankly DGAF. Maybe it's worth taking the same cue. 

What he said 

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His lawyer str8 up lying saying Jay and Diddy were not friends lmao 

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